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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:21 am
by UberNinja
In post 3165, izakthegoomba wrote:It still removes his "Mafia Scum".

He can keep the badge, I'm just asking that the text part of the title is changed to "Mafia Scum". It's very much a defining characteristic for Parama.

I don't think you understand how it works.

If I'm getting this right, instead of a "text only" title, they have a "text + image" title for scummy winners. The "best performance scummy" text + image title has been applied to multiple people, and to make Parama's different would mean a new one would have to be made for him that was different from other people's. Which seems to be against what he seems to want, based on his request to be made Mafia Scum again.

I could be wrong but that's how I read it.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:25 am
by SleepyKrew
Uber is correct.

If you don't want this to happen, then don't win Scummies. Until next year, suck it up and be a big boy.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:25 am
by Mist7676
Mafia Scum would be cool.

Others who don't know about his title turn off won't understand it :P

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:27 am
by izakthegoomba
Well I think having the text as well as the image is sort of redendant anyway. Kind of like username-based titles with the ugliness and the repetition.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:48 am
by Mr. Flay
In post 3172, izakthegoomba wrote:Well I think having the text as well as the image is sort of redendant anyway. Kind of like username-based titles with the ugliness and the repetition.

It's using the alt-text for the award. Make sense now?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:50 am
by Kcdaspot
Wait so if he get "mafia scum" as his title back, he loses the award banner?

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:51 am
by SleepyKrew
No.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:52 am
by izakthegoomba
But "Best Town Performance" and "Best Performance: Town" are really no different. If it was Paragon or Paperback Writer or something I'd understand...

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:57 am
by SleepyKrew
It's simple.
Look at Faraday.
Has an award banner and his custom title.
If Mafia Scum became Parama's custom title (it shouldn't), then he'd still have the banner.
Fuck da police.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:58 am
by izakthegoomba
In post 3184, SleepyKrew wrote:It's simple.
Look at Faraday.
Has an award banner and his custom title.
If Mafia Scum became Parama's custom title (it shouldn't), then he'd still have the banner.
Fuck da police.

...that's the whole point? Nobody is saying the banner should go. It's the title I want to see changed.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 12:03 pm
by Kcdaspot
I am with izak.

If parama is on board it should be done. Full stop.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:33 pm
by Mr. Flay
WHAT are you people arguing about?

Best Performance: Town is a group award. It gets assigned as if it were a title that can be used by multiple people. To make Parama's say "Mafia Scum" would require making a separate and unique award set. If Oman feels it is worth it, fine.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:36 pm
by Vi
If Parama doesn't want his Scummy then I lay claim to it as co-designer of the game in question.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:37 pm
by Ythan
He has not indicated that he wants the banner removed. He and others want his title reverted to reflect his known resistance to titling.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:38 pm
by Ythan
Or just because he's resistant to titling.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:38 pm
by Vi
In post 3196, Ythan wrote:He has not indicated that he wants the banner removed. He and others want his title reverted to reflect his known resistance to titling.
I know that. See Flay-o's post.~

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:54 pm
by Ythan
I don't think everyone knows that.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:18 pm
by xRECKONERx
In post 3194, Mr. Flay wrote:WHAT are you people arguing about?

Best Performance: Town is a group award. It gets assigned as if it were a title that can be used by multiple people. To make Parama's say "Mafia Scum" would require making a separate and unique award set. If Oman feels it is worth it, fine.

But... I have best town performance and a different custom title.

Seriously confused.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:45 pm
by UberNinja
Yours is special because this is all one image:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/images/ranks ... unters.jpg

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:47 pm
by Kison
Titles are known as ranks. Ranks can have custom text under the username as well as an image. Most users with titles simply have a rank with text.

Scummies are also ranks, but they utilize the image feature. When a user with a title wins a Scummy, we edit their rank and simply add the image to it.

When a user without a custom title wins, we give them one of the premade Scummies ranks, whose custom text is like what Parama now has. This is in place of the 'Mafia Scum' rank, which is shared by many users and therefore cannot be assigned an image without also giving it to everyone else who has that text below their name.

Hope that makes sense.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:48 pm
by SleepyKrew
Alright guys.
Look.
If you win one award, and don't have a title, then the award overrides Mafia Scum.
If you have a title, you keep your title but also the banner.
Parama wants his title to be Mafia Scum. That way, he's "titleless", but still has his banner. This is perfectly (to my knowledge) doable. It's just dumb.

PEDIT: Oh, looks like it's not doable. Hah.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:50 pm
by Kison
We could in theory change the text of all the generic Scummies ranks to read 'Mafia Scum,' though it would get confusing(for us) and I think most people would prefer it the other way.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:54 pm
by Ythan
nominate SleepyKrew for Santy Ranty
or however he spelled it.

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:40 am
by IceGuy
In post 3202, Kison wrote:
Hope that makes sense.


No. Why can't you make a rank that has "Mafia Scum" as text and a Scummies image?

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:05 am
by saulres
In post 3247, IceGuy wrote:Why can't you make a rank that has "Mafia Scum" as text and a Scummies image?


The way I understand it (and the way I've seen it on other php boards), the text of the rank is unique. So, because "Mafia Scum" is already used, there's no way to make another rank with the same name.