Mafia 123 - Outdoorsmen Mafia 2 GAME OVER

DemonHybrid · Post Post #25 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:14 pm

I like being able to possibly figure out 1/2 of the scum after just one post.

EPM, pick a name: Parama or Guderian. Not in regards to anything in particular, just which one appeals most to you.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #26 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:20 pm

EBWOP: 1/2 meaning 1 or 2, not one half.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #27 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:36 pm

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Evilpacman18

I don't like that you start out the game voting for everyone you've played with before, honestly. It seems like you're setting them up where they can't vote you without OMGUSing, and they also happen to be the ones that know you best, and thus will have the best chance out of all of us as pegging you as scum. Although, I find it VERY interesting that the person you ended up voting was DemonHybrid. Perhaps he's your scumpartner, considering you confirmed at about the same time AND you happened to vote for him with your first RVS? That's just a coincidence I'm not willing to believe.

Or I just went down the playerlist and voted for everyone I knew in the order they appeared. And I don't mind if they vote me. OMGUS is ok. It's RVS.

DemonHybrid wrote:I like being able to possibly figure out 1/2 of the scum after just one post.

EPM, pick a name: Parama or Guderian. Not in regards to anything in particular, just which one appeals most to you.

Parama. Easier to say.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #28 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:42 pm

If EPM is scum, so is Guderian.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #29 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:44 pm

Confirm Vote: Evilpacman18

Seems to me like you're trying to distance from your RVS vote... It seems odd that you would choose to make your vote so logical and mechanical as opposed to all of your other games where you were town...

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 55&start=0
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 21&start=0

In these two games, which are the only two you've RVS'ed in (you were town both times), you started out with a more playful, casual, carefree vote. But this vote is different. Why?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #30 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:48 pm

I'd agree with what DH has said wholeheartedly. Adding a reason for picking a name UNPROMPTED shows that he's nervous about his choice, so he wants to act like he put more thought into it than he actually did. And, he's definitely not the type to tie himself to his scumbuddy by stating their name out of a group of two people, so yeah, I'd agree with that assessment.

TOWN:
Nachomamma8
DemonHybrid
Parama

SCUM:
evilpacman18

Come on, the rest of you, don't be afraid to post. It's not like you're going to be able to hide from me forever...

DemonHybrid · Post Post #31 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:49 pm

You forgot Guderian on your scum list.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #32 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:52 pm

TOWN:
Nachomamma8
DemonHybrid
Parama

SCUM:
evilpacman18
Guderian

Untrod Tripod · Post Post #33 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:41 pm

vote DH

because he is obviously a bulletproof SK

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #34 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:55 pm

...and another townie has joined the fray. Noticed how he subtly brings my attention to something I've forgotten in my lists (SK possibilities). Meaning that Parama isn't cleared yet because he is only townie due to interactions with EPM-scum. Guderian stays in the scum section, though.

TOWN:
Nachomamma8
DemonHybrid
Untrod Tripod

NOT SCUM:
Parama

SCUM:
evilpacman18
Guderian

Excellent catch, good sir.

Guderian · Post Post #35 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:00 pm

If EPM is scum, so is Guderian.

This is utter nonsense on so many levels.

Are you serious? If so, you deserve to by lynched before page 3.

Vote DemonHybrid

Is mastin hydraing with anyone or not?

iamausername · Post Post #36 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:16 pm

VOTE: evilpacman

Seems like Nachomamma has got this game sewn up already. Good job.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #37 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:16 pm

Guderian wrote:
If EPM is scum, so is Guderian.
This is utter nonsense on so many levels.

Are you serious? If so, you deserve to by lynched before page 3.

Vote DemonHybrid

Is mastin hydraing with anyone or not?

Very serious.

By the way, the town reaction is "oh, then I hope EPM is not scum then", not "WHAT HOW DARE YOU GOOD SIR VOTE, LYNCH FUCKING DIE!"

Just saying.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #38 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:19 pm

I also like how that question was extremely rhetorical. I'm becoming more confident with the EPM vote by the second.

Guderian · Post Post #39 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:24 pm

How is the town reaction 'I hope EPM is not scum'?

The town reaction is, 'what is this crap logic I see being presented as serious'. Followed by 'I wonder why he posts this, and I wonder if he thinks no one will notice'.

The question is not rhetorical.

Im trying to figure out if you truly believe what you're saying or not, because if you do you should be lynched, Immediately. Do you want me to really go into whats wrong with it?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #40 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:25 pm

Guderian wrote:
If EPM is scum, so is Guderian.
This is utter nonsense on so many levels.

Are you serious? If so, you deserve to by lynched before page 3.

Vote DemonHybrid

Is mastin hydraing with anyone or not?

And the evidence of you being scum just keeps on coming and coming and coming...

Utter nonsense on SO MANY levels? Give me two of these mythical levels, then.
Your second lines make it sound like you're done with the fun and games, but you want a page three quicklynch?
A vote on the one who pegged you as scum?
And wrap it up with the mastin question, which demonstrates your worry for a well-known scumhunter entering as well?

This game is just getting better and better.

iamusername's vote's already in the right place, which is definitely the right start for him. He also points out that I've gotten the game sewn up already, which doesn't sound like scum cutting their losses and bussing to me. After all, it's not wise to gamble if there's a protective role in the game or not, and he just told them who to protect.

TOWN:
Nachomamma8
DemonHybrid
Untrod Tripod
iamusername

NOT SCUM:
Parama

SCUM:
evilpacman18
Guderian

DemonHybrid · Post Post #41 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:26 pm

Guderian wrote: The question is not rhetorical.

"Are you serious? If so, you should be lynched. *votes*"

Not rhetorical at all. Nope.

Not a bit.

Nah ah.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #42 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:36 pm

So, Guderian, did you spend like 6-10 minutes hanging out in the New York forum for your own health? Or did you not know what to say?

Guderian · Post Post #43 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:37 pm

Cool. I am firmly behind a lynch of DH by page three.

Lets look over what you've done this game, and which you admit is

SERIOUS REASONING AND VOTING.

So lets judge it seriously.

1. You actually believe in your magical candycane wonderland that you've nailed Evil as scum. Based on what I'm not sure. Is your ridiculous question at the start of the page? Cool. Everyone this is his reason, which he has confirmed as serious.

Well, he's not.

Unvote, Vote: evilpacman18

See? Totally not buddies.

Cool. Glad youre so set on that.

2. You've essentially tried for some unknown reason to set up an illogical chain of lynches. X so naturally lets do Y, which of course makes no sense. Tell me, of the other people who hasn't posted, who is scum? I'd love to see this.

Your thinking is a very pro-scum chain of logic. Your advocating a serious lynch on someone, and then another serious lynch on someone; without reason, or direction, or intent.

3. You seem to think I'm 'attacking' you. You dont say it, but your posts went from jovial to dead serious in the span of a page. Why? You think other people might notice how stupid your reasoning is here.

4. You try and pigeon hole me into what ever position I take into cool, theres a scum. If I post without a vote, you declare me 'ignoring your 'case''. If I vote EPM I'll be the 'busser'. If I vote you as I have done, I'm declared straight up scum. No. Sorry. Wont work.

You were forced into defending an illogical position, and you hope others wont notice.

I repeat, lets see if town can actually lynch someone who is LEGITIMATELY scummy by page three .

Not sure what nacho is doing.

Guderian · Post Post #44 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:38 pm

So, Guderian, did you spend like 6-10 minutes hanging out in the New York forum for your own health? Or did you not know what to say?

Nervousness. Hook line and sinker. Thank you.

iamausername · Post Post #45 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:39 pm

Guderian wrote:Im trying to figure out if you truly believe what you're saying or not, because if you do you should be lynched, Immediately.

For DH to

truly believe

what he is saying (that is, that you are scum with evilpacman), he would need to be either a) town, or b) scum with you and evilpacman.

So which is it? Are you trying to lynch a townie or are you bussing?

DemonHybrid · Post Post #46 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:42 pm

Thank you for your response, I was wondering what was going on with you hanging out and then leaving.

My EPM vote was not serious at the time. So, you're wrong about that. My confirmation that if EPM is scum, then you are IS serious and what I was talking about. So you're wrong.

I did not set up a chain of lynches, either. "If EPM is scum, then you are" only sets up your lynch if...well, EPM is scum. And you seem to be freaking out on the premise that I made that up. Which means you're soft defending EPM. Cool.

You can thank EPM for setting himself up as scum and then including you through a mind-fuck game. IF EPM is scum, then so are you. If he is not, I need to reread you, but you've contradicted something already, so I don't have high hopes for you, but we'll see.

Guderian · Post Post #47 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:47 pm

Mind explaining how you came to this conclusion DH?

oohh, threats. Love those from town too.

For DH to truly believe what he is saying (that is, that you are scum with evilpacman), he would need to be either a) town, or b) scum with you and evilpacman.

So which is it? Are you trying to lynch a townie or are you bussing?

Erm, no. Your false dilemma is noted though. People seem to love these. If DH really believe his logic, he is scum. His ideas are scum. Is play is scum.

Did you not receive a town role PM iam?

It clearly states two scum teams.

You are insinuating that there is a three person scum team. Obviously, this makes no sense to have two three person scum teams in a 16 player game. So come back with better conspiracy theories next time.

DemonHybrid · Post Post #48 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:52 pm

First, you're blowing my mind. In a bad way.

What does the fact that there are two scum teams have to do with ANYTHING that we've said so far?

And my logic thus far is this:

EPM votes and unvotes Parama, then you, then me. That seems scummy to both Nacho and I (which, by the way, we have the EXACT same thought process. By pegging me as scummy and not him, that's either tunneling or bad scummy logic aimed toward me).

By doing something like that, ASSUMING EPM is scum, he would probably include one of his buddies. Sorry EPM, but you aren't the most experienced of players, so if you were scum, you'd probably do something like that.

At the time when I asked the question, EPM was already under some fire. So I asked him to pick a name that appealed to him. And he picked Parama, so I chose you as his buddy, ASSUMING that he is scum. The reasoning for this is since he's already under fire, he would want to distance himself subconsciously from his partner, so he picked Parama, assuming that I'd associate EPM with him.

So there's the reasoning for my "If EPM is scum, so is Guderian". Anything else?

DemonHybrid · Post Post #49 (ISO) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:53 pm

First, you're blowing my mind. In a bad way.

What does the fact that there are two scum teams have to do with ANYTHING that we've said so far?

Well then, I'm playing with the mindset that we have more players. I see this point and need to re-evaluate a thing or two.