Mini 1097: Simple Mafia

[Lord Cable]

@Guderian: I have CooLDoG as a town read. I have announced this. My reads are the obvious, usually.
@IS: Hi! While the vote is appreciated, you haven't said why you think I'm scum, and, if you're town, you definitely haven't seen enough. Thanks in advance

[Guderian]

Mind sharing your 'town read' with the unwashed.

[Lord Cable]

I did that already.

[Guderian]

FOS: LC

For being deliberately obtuse.

[Lord Cable]

Being deliberately obtuse does tend to attract a lot of attention, yes.
How can I explain my read as anything other than a gut read based on the sum of CooLDoG's posting? (1 post). Because that's what it is. CooLDoG's post looked exceptionally town, but if you want to ask me why, you're not going to be able to get a straightforward answer.
This is not a straightforward answer at all.
Why the FoS instead of a vote? Unless your Jerbs vote was a "serious" vote (it doesn't look like it) then there's no reason to not vote me. Though I do appreciate that you didn't vote me as it means your vote is not wasted.

[Guderian]

Why the FoS instead of a vote?

Unless your Jerbs vote was a "serious" vote

Answering your own question.

So I guess gut=obvious town?

[Internet Stranger]

Easy. Lord Cable is hedging his bandwagon bets already and we have barely started. He has already set Guderian and Strangercoug up for later attacks.
If he was aggressive, thats something.
If he was being defensive, thats something.

But he is playing in the scummy middle zone.
I say we lynch him.

[Lord Cable]

I trust my gut a lot. It tends to be right. Players like vollkan who find gut worthless I will never understand.

[Guderian]

a. thats nice.
b. thats nice.
c. no one cares.

Weird attempt to use other players meta to make yourself pro-town?

[Lord Cable]

Easy. Lord Cable is hedging his bandwagon bets already and we have barely started. He has already set Guderian and Strangercoug up for later attacks.

I'm unsure on Guderian (did I attack him? I must've missed it) and I want to hear a response from SC before I take any further action.

I say we lynch him.

You say that like you don't really think I'm scum.

FoS: IS

P-EDIT:
Okay that is the biggest stretch I've ever seen, Guderian. I'm saying why I use gut and bringing up a meta I disagree with. You're saying that I'm using another player's meta to make myself pro-town... how does that work?

[Internet Stranger]

I say that like my vote only counts for 1. Everyone else still has to see that im right and vote accordingly.
You put yourself out there too much and got caught. Time to hang, scum.

I will be going after your silent buddies next.

[StrangerCoug]

unvote, vote: StrangerCoug

So your RVS logic is a pseudo-policy lynch? On an obvious townie? Ehehehehe no.

You are overreacting here. I had no read on anybody, so I voted him for voting me. The "for sucking" is admitting that it is an OMGUS vote, as it stands for "

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uck". I also don't like people being called obvtown on page 1 let alone when the RVS is barely over.

UNVOTE: CooLDoG
VOTE: Lord Cable

[TheButtonmen]

ITT we learn SC is just bandwagonning without even reading the posts of the player he is voting as he takes time to;

it is an OMGUS vote, as it stands for "

o

h

m

y

G

od, yo

u s

uck"

Explain what an OMGUS vote is to LC when;

Anyways, confirm and all that jazz, preemptive OMGUS

vote: Plum

.

LC himself has already used the term and;

Anyways, confirm and all that jazz, preemptive OMGUS

vote: Plum

.

You have never played a game with Plum before as far as I can tell so I'm curious why you would assume she's going to vote you.

@TBM: Alt alert at 11 o'clock!
Besides, pre-emptitive OMGUS lets you be wrong whereas normal OMGUS doesn't. The more you get wrongness out of your system earlier in the game, the more rightness you have when it actually matters. There's no need to question my logic but if you have questions about it feel free to ask.

His premptive OMGUS vote has already been a topic I have questioned him on.

[Guderian]

and thus, that makes strangercoug.......?

[Empking]

Vote Count 2

Guderian (1) - Nachomamma8
StrangerCoug (2) - CooLDog, Lord Cable
Nachomamma8
CooLDog
Jerbs (1) - Guderian,
Lord Cable (3) - TheButtonmen, Internet Stranger, StrangerCoug
TheButtonmen
Internet Stranger (2) - Plum, Jerbs
Plum

Not Voting:

[Lord Cable]

unvote, vote: StrangerCoug

So your RVS logic is a pseudo-policy lynch? On an obvious townie? Ehehehehe no.

You are overreacting here. I had no read on anybody, so I voted him for voting me. The "for sucking" is admitting that it is an OMGUS vote, as it stands for "

o

h

m

y

G

od, yo

u s

uck". I also don't like people being called obvtown on page 1 let alone when the RVS is barely over.

UNVOTE: CooLDoG
VOTE: Lord Cable

Oh, so that's what you meant by your original "for sucking" bit. Because it was totally an obvious OMGUS. Yeah no. And you're acting like it was obvious here.
I know what OMGUS stands for. I am an alt - do not treat me like a 5 year old.
You say I'm overreacting while also assuming that I don't know what OMGUS means. Your assumption is that I'm overreacting to the OMGUS, knowing it's an OMGUS, but you then try to explain what OMGUS is immediately after. This is a contradiction. Scum make contradictions. My vote is pretty happy right now.
Also, tell me the scum motivation for calling people obvtown on page 1. Really. I think CooLDoG is town, so I am announcing this to the world. If it makes the scum flock over in my direction and try to make me dead, so be it, it only makes them easier to find.

ITT we learn SC is just bandwagonning without even reading the posts of the player he is voting as he takes time to;

Which is why you're still voting the same player he's voting.

Anyways, confirm and all that jazz, preemptive OMGUS

vote: Plum

.

You have never played a game with Plum before as far as I can tell so I'm curious why you would assume she's going to vote you.

@TBM: Alt alert at 11 o'clock!
Besides, pre-emptitive OMGUS lets you be wrong whereas normal OMGUS doesn't. The more you get wrongness out of your system earlier in the game, the more rightness you have when it actually matters. There's no need to question my logic but if you have questions about it feel free to ask.

His premptive OMGUS vote has already been a topic I have questioned him on.

"Questioned" eh? Because saying "Oh hey you've never played with Plum why do you expect her to vote you" is "questioning" right?

and thus, that makes strangercoug.......?

At the very least, worth keeping my vote on. At most, scum.

[StrangerCoug]

I know what OMGUS stands for. I am an alt - do not treat me like a 5 year old.

Then do not act like you have no clue what I'm doing. I made it clear that I do not usually support policy lynches, but you were treating my vote as if I were. I clearly was not serious.

You say I'm overreacting while also assuming that I don't know what OMGUS means. Your assumption is that I'm overreacting to the OMGUS, knowing it's an OMGUS, but you then try to explain what OMGUS is immediately after. This is a contradiction.

Explaining OMGUS to somebody you know knows what it means is odd, but your push has a flaw—you gave me the impression that I legitimately wanted to get rid of a bad player. Do I believe CooLDoG to be a bad player? No, and even if I did we have not yet completed a game together, so for me to know requires me to meta him.

Also, tell me the scum motivation for calling people obvtown on page 1. Really. I think CooLDoG is town, so I am announcing this to the world. If it makes the scum flock over in my direction and try to make me dead, so be it, it only makes them easier to find.

There could be a number of reasons. Trying to get town off their scumbuddy, telling other scumbuddies who to kill (which is why people rarely like announcing town reads at all), etc. It can get pretty complex.

[Internet Stranger]

I'm thoroughly convinced that Lord Cable is scum. He will become a nice addtition to my mantle of caught scum trophies. Thanks to me, this town will have a chance to survive this invasion by evenb scummier scummy scum scum.
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[Guderian]

I like the LC wagon, but the two posts Jerbs has given have given me more scum vibes then all of LC's rolled into one.

My question was directed to thebuttonman. He makes plenty of sweeping statements, with no conclusion. TBM, what is you final verdict/reason for pointing out all those things in #37.

[CooLDoG]

mod get me a vote count!

I don't know what the vote count is so I'm afraid to hammer LC.

LC must be scum for thinking I'm town. Nobody thinks I'm town in any game I have ever played. He is also way over reacting to a rather silly page-1 vote. And he never really answered the question. Why am I town? A normal townie doesn't go off and post a bunch of random jargon explaining why a player is town on page 1.

fos, incoming vote based on vote count conditions

In other news, I have a slight (mostly gut) scum read on IS.
~sorry if my spelling/grammar is bad, I had exams/tests today...~

[Guderian]

There's two pages, count the votes yourself.

LC has three votes. Why are you afraid to hammer him?

[Empking]

Vote Count 2.2

Guderian (1) - Nachomamma8
StrangerCoug (2) - CooLDog, Lord Cable
Nachomamma8
CooLDog
Jerbs (1) - Guderian,
Lord Cable (3) - TheButtonmen, Internet Stranger, StrangerCoug
TheButtonmen
Internet Stranger (2) - Plum, Jerbs
Plum

Not Voting:

9 players alive. Five to Lynch.

[Lord Cable]

There's two pages, count the votes yourself.

LC has three votes. Why are you afraid to hammer him?

Why are you pressuring him to vote me without voting me yourself?

[Guderian]

unvote

vote: Lord Cable

[Plum]

LC, why do you want me to vote you?