Mini #1081 - SitMOA Mafia (Endgame... Congrats, winners!)

[chesskid3]

Dude we can get both Dark Horse AND Narsis if you use it SCREAM

[chesskid3]

Vote: Narsis

Andrew is town damnit.

[chesskid3]

btw abilities that people tried to use last night may have been lost, which was why I tried to caution people against using their vig shots.

No abilities should have actually worked last night though.

[chesskid3]

I.e. CARE TO ELABORATE?

[chesskid3]

Oh basically Narsis just softclaimed VT. Whee.

Moving along, Katsuki owes me a nice protown post to get his townread back.

[chesskid3]

He said "exactly how you know", not "please be more cryptic with your response".

Also I really think the mass block was a bad idea. Why did you decide to use it when you did chess?

Because with so many vig shots and stuff I want the most info (i.e. town controlled flips out there before people start shooting each other like crazy)

[chesskid3]

Would you prefer I hadn't used it. and had risked dying with it unused?

[chesskid3]

er, wouldn't be surprised if he flipped town* lulz.

Night action stuff:
People with vig shots: Don't all use them one night. There might be screwy mechanics/I don't want to see 5 bodies tomorrow. Save them for after we have some more flips and stuff.
Someone watch me.

inb4 that gets called rolefishing/directing vigs

That was me trying to save abilities. Oh well. 1-shot roleblock/votestealer isn't super important anyway.

Gandalf I want an actual explanation as to why you don't want to use your shot today, given the incredible amount of town power.

[chesskid3]

Ah. Well I didn't know, because any answer I may or may not have recieved upon possibly inquiring as to the possible effects of some form of mass roleblock on hypothetical 1-shot actions by other players was unclear.

[chesskid3]

Also to further elaborate: Gandalf, about 3/4 of your townread lies in this claimed dayvig shot. I want to see it.

[chesskid3]

Hrm well it still gives us 3 flips before night.

Also please stop the softclaiming thanks

[chesskid3]

WAAAAAAIIIIT.

Anyone see what I am seeing in the claim of RBT. I think he is a godfather.

He should be the lynch for today.

VOTE: RBT

His claim..... seems wrong to me. I don't like it. It doesn't make sense from a cross-reference of my abilities and his.

I'm a generalist (or universalist), though I feel like I should be an Illusionist from having two spells from there.

more questions:
Triggered means automatically triggered? If you are targetted to be killed and tried to you a different action, what happens? do you perform both actions and live and kill your vig target, do you die and kill your target, or is your action changed to false visions and you don't shoot but survive?

Invisibility is self only?

Yes. I can only cast one spell per night, but I won't "cast" it unless I'm attacked at night. Thus, it's like choosing to be bulletproof, should I be targeted.

Honestly, Chess' blatant rolefishing has got to stop either way. If I use my vig, that's where it's going.

@Narsis: That's all he's really done to me all game. I wouldn't hold your breath.

If this is my last chance to post, I strongly suggest looking at the following as scum: Chess, Vezok, and one of (Narsis/Adumbro/Katsuki). The first two read "scumbuddies4life", and the other three are the ones I'm interested in getting some more out of, and can't decide which is the most likely remaining partner.

Absolute BS. I asked the mod the same question about triggered abilities and they said that they are passive free abilities. You can use 1 active ability at night and any triggered abilities will still activate.

It sort of seems like a gambit to waste any town vig shots in a last gambit to hold on to your scummy life.

PEDit: I was about to vote, but Gandalf voted before me

I'll wait to hammer just in case anyone has any last words.

Blargh, a lot of catching up to do. I'm just going to skim through for now and give it a solid read later today.

1. RBTs claim is obvfake. On of my spellnames is the exact same (Not saying which one you dirty scumz) and it does something totally differant.
2. Even though I hate Andrew's posts so far he is screaming VT to me which is making me think he's town. Narsis is now my #2 pick.
3. Similar to what chess said: Be careful with one shots everybody! We may need them later.

HoHum

[chesskid3]

Vezok's town, dude.

[chesskid3]

Basically if any of the 4 people who jumped on RBT's claim is scum, it'd be malthusis, because Doombunny shot himself in the ass at MC time if he's scum, Vezok wouldn't have been the first to reject the claim as scum, wouldn't be possible, and gandalf is being dumb about the amount of town power, but he's still town (pending confirmation).

[chesskid3]

TOWNTOWNTOWNTOWN:
CK
Vezok
Gandalf
Doombunny

Town?
ThAdmiral
Katsuki
Adumbro
andrew94

SCUMSCUMSCUM
Malthusis
Narsis
DarkHorse

PEDIT: Only so many roles a JOAT can have, tbh. Especially if you start using JKs as Docs, etc etc. Now shaddup about your abilities please.

[chesskid3]

Vezok's town, dude.

He just got caught lying to keep himself from being nightkilled. Obv third party.

wouldn't town power roles also act in a similar fashion though?

Honestly there are like at least 4 softclaimed/claimed TPRs so far so self-preservation is a no-go.

[chesskid3]

There is a scum on my town?list.

[chesskid3]

Well unfortunately for them I'm going to be around for awhile.

[chesskid3]

Yeah I am not getting your reference at all. One more time for good measure?

PEDIT: 8-3-1 makes the most sense, though I could see 9-2-1 or 9-3 with the assumption that town will destroy itself or scum have like insane abilities. That being said, there might be a town on the scumlist as well. But there is definitely a scum on the townlist, since there wasn't enough resistance to my scumlists.

[chesskid3]

Yup.

PEDIT: Make a case on somebody. Scumhunt. Do something to prove it.

[chesskid3]

So on the town?list you have:
ThAdmiral who buddies me entirely too much on D1
Katsuki, who sheeps my entire scumlist
Adumbro who isn't really here....and
Andrew94 who is a VI and unreadable because of this.

Oh there is most definitely scum in here. Oy, get your asses in here and start talking.

[chesskid3]

Let's not even think about 3rd parties until there's like evidence that they exist. And no, Vezok is town.
Narsis and DarkHorse are the scummiest two players in the game, they need to be showing town they deserve to live right about now.

New Rule: If you kill someone at night, you take credit for it in your first post at the start of the next day.

Claiming it later = Policy Lynch.
That way, once we actually have a night, if there are a lot of unclaimed kills, we've got problems.

PEDIT: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

[chesskid3]

Yup.

PEDIT: Make a case on somebody. Scumhunt. Do something to prove it.

scum hunt how?

there has been

next to no scum hunting by anyone this game

. a bunch of players are lurking or V/LA, and almost all the discussion has been about who has what power roles and waiting for the night to come along so people can use them. hence the similarity to a follow the cop game...

PEDIT:

yeah like there's going to be 3 third party roles in a 12 player game...

and for the record i didnt expect it to change his mind.

Funny parts are bolded

[chesskid3]

Narsis how many games have you played on-site?

[chesskid3]

Everyone voting Narsis or DH needs to explain why they picked one and not the other, btw.

[chesskid3]

Example of an acceptable vig:
I shot andrew94 because he's lurking, not providing content, and a distraction that needed to die before endgame.
Example of an unacceptable vig:
I shot chesskid because he was leading the town and that's bad for me.

[chesskid3]

The point of this rule would be to stop like 6 people from all vigging each other. Also, it should give an idea of the number of anti-town killing roles out there.

PEDIT: Sure, but it forces scum to kill andrew then, which is a victory anyway.

[chesskid3]

As in, if scum want to get the towncred for a "vig shot", well then we'll get rid of a scummy player.

[chesskid3]

Narsis how many games have you played on-site?

[chesskid3]

I ran out of facepalm pics for you andrew.

Narsis: Throwing out quantum mafia, because that is not a game any meta works on, since there weren't really alignments until the end of the game, you have 2 completed showing, both town.

In Lie to me Mafia you posted reads and scumhunted. In City watch mafia you posted reads and scumhunted. I know you know how to do it. Please do so.

[chesskid3]

I'm back, and everyone pretty much covered what I was going to say... oh well

NO
THIS WILL NOT FLY
SAY IT

[chesskid3]

I'm back, and everyone pretty much covered what I was going to say... oh well

NO
THIS WILL NOT FLY
SAY IT

There is more coming right?

[chesskid3]

We're not rushing today just because we have the vig shot.
I want the scum on my town?list dead ASAFP

[chesskid3]

It's hard to tell if it's him you or Adumbro when 2/3 aren't here.

[chesskid3]

Unvote

Vote: DH

Let's get some competing wagons going here, eh?

[chesskid3]

To make it more interesting, the one of DH/Narsis who doesn't get lynched won't get dayvigged, either.

[chesskid3]

Darkhorse, baleful polymorph is permanent?

Not liking the claim at uh l-5

[chesskid3]

Also Abilties do not town-alignment imply.

[chesskid3]

You think in a game like this, scum didn't get fakeclaims, you're crazy.

[chesskid3]

someone protown = one of gandalf,me,vezok,doom.
They're all 99% town at least.

[chesskid3]

My face is starting to feel like all the goddamn scum are on my town?list.
STOP LURKING GODDAMNIT

[chesskid3]

I think Narsis was saying he Didn't get a pm that said he got roleblocked last night :/

[chesskid3]

Prod ThAdmiral,Adumbro,Katsuki?

[chesskid3]

WAAAAAAIIIIT.

Anyone see what I am seeing in the claim of RBT. I think he is a godfather.

He should be the lynch for today.

VOTE: RBT

His claim..... seems wrong to me. I don't like it. It doesn't make sense from a cross-reference of my abilities and his.

I'm a generalist (or universalist), though I feel like I should be an Illusionist from having two spells from there.

more questions:
Triggered means automatically triggered? If you are targetted to be killed and tried to you a different action, what happens? do you perform both actions and live and kill your vig target, do you die and kill your target, or is your action changed to false visions and you don't shoot but survive?

Invisibility is self only?

Yes. I can only cast one spell per night, but I won't "cast" it unless I'm attacked at night. Thus, it's like choosing to be bulletproof, should I be targeted.

Honestly, Chess' blatant rolefishing has got to stop either way. If I use my vig, that's where it's going.

@Narsis: That's all he's really done to me all game. I wouldn't hold your breath.

If this is my last chance to post, I strongly suggest looking at the following as scum: Chess, Vezok, and one of (Narsis/Adumbro/Katsuki). The first two read "scumbuddies4life", and the other three are the ones I'm interested in getting some more out of, and can't decide which is the most likely remaining partner.

Absolute BS. I asked the mod the same question about triggered abilities and they said that they are passive free abilities. You can use 1 active ability at night and any triggered abilities will still activate.

It sort of seems like a gambit to waste any town vig shots in a last gambit to hold on to your scummy life.

PEDit: I was about to vote, but Gandalf voted before me

I'll wait to hammer just in case anyone has any last words.

Blargh, a lot of catching up to do. I'm just going to skim through for now and give it a solid read later today.

1. RBTs claim is obvfake. On of my spellnames is the exact same (Not saying which one you dirty scumz) and it does something totally differant.
2. Even though I hate Andrew's posts so far he is screaming VT to me which is making me think he's town. Narsis is now my #2 pick.
3. Similar to what chess said: Be careful with one shots everybody! We may need them later.

HoHum

STOP IGNORING THIS PL0X.

ALSO DH OWES ME SOME STUFF THAT HE SAID WASN'T WORTH SAYING BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE ALREADY SAID IT.

[chesskid3]

he didn't unvote, the VC is correct.

[chesskid3]

make a case

[chesskid3]

Do you think I would make an obvious bus like that? (if it was a bus)

Sigh.

Narsis wagon is moving too fast. That's L-2 with Adumbro's replacement still owing a nice catchup post, and Katsuki owing a lot of posts.

[chesskid3]

The problem is if he's town he's also a really easy misslynch wagon.

[chesskid3]

Unvote

Vote: Malthusis

Errybody forgot abuot him?

[chesskid3]

This is not rvs, you morons

[chesskid3]

Narsis, you might as well just claim now

[chesskid3]

Ok well we're not lynching you then, most likely.

[chesskid3]

However you are going to die tonight. Is that ok with you?

[chesskid3]

What the fuck is going on

[chesskid3]

Claimed VT = good to die at night probably and not worth a dayvig? (except there might be busdrivers but oh well).

[chesskid3]

Narsis claimed vanilla. Someone shoot him tonight or something. If he doesn't die, well then something went wrong.
People with powers are the problem.

[chesskid3]

YOU NEED TO UNVOTE FIRST JESUS

[chesskid3]

Tbh i feel like the adumbro slot needs to die, because it would be too easy for a scum to replace in now near tghe end of d2 and just coast the rest of the way

[chesskid3]

That would be who i wouldl dayvig

[chesskid3]

One week from the time someone actually replaces in should be fine.

[chesskid3]

Mal, any comment on the fact that you're at L-2?

[chesskid3]

Because half of you are lurking, and half of you are just sheeping me. I might sound confident in my reads, but really, this is kind of annoying having to do this with no real input from 2 slots, along with 2 slots just sheeping me.

[chesskid3]

Having just come from a game that we left someone who hit L-1 and claimed Tracker/rolecop combo alive, and was scum, I'm rather skeptical of any such ability claims.

That being said, I can't get my reads down with 2 lurkerslots.

[chesskid3]

Unvote

[chesskid3]

Meh. Claimtime

[chesskid3]

This day is not ending without an Adumbro replacement

[chesskid3]

I don't feel like you should dayvig narsis, btw. I mean, yes he's deadweight, and I don't have any logical reason for this, but MY GUT SAYS NO

[chesskid3]

Now do you see my point about fakeclaims/abilities not meaning shit?

WHERE HAS DARKHORSE GONE ONCE THE PRESSURE WAS OFF HIM?
HMM?

[chesskid3]

DUDE
MOST OF US ARE JOATS
STOPPIT

[chesskid3]

I HAVE PROTECTIVE POWERS TOO JESUS

[chesskid3]

The setup is balanced probably because we're going to eat each other alive at night. That's my theory
Town want to be the hero, take the vig shot instead of the doc protect. Lets not do that

[chesskid3]

I think if he were going to fakeclaim he wouldn't have done that, that's my point.

Also JK > doc. hit a scumster with it, use it as a RB

[chesskid3]

"We're well beyond lurker lynches, especially lurker lynches with a legit reason for lurking, unless we process of elimination everyone else out"
This is a really subtle defense of Katsuki. I don't like it.

[chesskid3]

EBWOP:

"We're well beyond lurker lynches, especially lurker lynches with a legit reason for lurking, unless we process of elimination everyone else out"
This is a really subtle defense of Katsuki. I don't like it.

Wait, you're pushing for Katsuki and you don't have anything more then he's lurking?

Please read the last few pages. Me as well as few others listed several reasons beyond lurking.....

As well as a tack on to the spell discussion: "Having the most obvious spell" is not a reason to lynch someone. Would it make any sense if I lynched a person because they had Magic Missile because it

obviously

had to be faked?

You joined the "zomg rbt claim is fake" wagon, you have no right to say this, and it is very scummy.

One of Adumbro/Katsuki is scum.

[chesskid3]

Votecount - This' getting interesting

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (4) - Katsuki, vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Dark Horse,
ThAdmiral (0) -
Narsis (2) - ThAdmiral, andrew94
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (0) -
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (1) - malthusis
AdumbroDeus (0) -

Not voting (4) - AdumbroDeus, Narsis, chesskid, gandalf5166

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Malthusis is at L-2.

Just because I'm cool, I'll give you three extra days. Enjoy.

Deadline is on at December 10th at midnight.

so cool

[chesskid3]

First part was at Malthusis.

Second part was an observation

[chesskid3]

Vote: Adumbro

I am happy with this

[chesskid3]

There's a lot of fail in the last 2 pages. Post coming in like 12 hours or so when I don't owe either homework or sleep.

[chesskid3]

I'm hesitant for one reason........ We've forced two claims already.

And by the way, I wasn't saying that malt was scum because shield was too obvious. I was simply saying that his claim didn't prove that he was town at all. The part that actually supported him being scum was the part about JK vs. doc.

Irrelevant. With so much power, scum RBers and the like won't know who to block, or who to kill to remove the biggest PR-based threat.

Adumbro #913 is overreacting scum. Katsuki is a lurker, you blanket defended all lurkers. Thus, subtle defense.
Town response would have been "Oops, that's not how I inteded my statement to be interpreted blah blah blah"
Scum response is "ZOMG NO THAT IS WRONG VOTE: YOU"


Death anti-miller stuff is nonsense.
Katsuki supporting that is even more nonsense. He knows better.
Dark Horse re-emerges from the depths of active lurking to COMPLETELY MISS ANY POINT THAT EVER EXISTED
Gandalf is not a lyncher what the hell is going on here

Katsuki townread is completely gone. Adumbro moves to scumread.
Narsis is TP, Malthusis moves to null leaning scum.
Doombunny loses his townread.
Andrew gains a townread.

[chesskid3]

Notice how everyone seems to be happy with lynching someone who has already claimed? Yeah. Not happening.

[chesskid3]

Because nobody else seems to be. Dayvig him if you want, but I want a lynch that will actually give information.

[chesskid3]

So much was before power, not "scum RBers" Reading comprehension is tech.

Anti-death miller is the stupidest role i have ever heard of, hence it wouldn't be in game. People agreeing with this want us to feel better about our misslynch and not be as careful.

You were V/LA for almost a week, and then countless "lol i'll post later" posts.

I didn't move off Malthusis because of the claim. I moved past because I'm about 80% sure it's going to be another misslynch.

[chesskid3]

You forgot to unvote.
Andrew IS town.

[chesskid3]

Ok.
Sure.
Whatever.
Vig him if you want.
I don't really care.

[chesskid3]

Antitown is a towntell.

[chesskid3]

Antitown is a towntell.

Not true.

True for a certain type of players, of which Andrew is, yes.

[chesskid3]

Or he could be a pissed off VT and you would both waste your shot and him. Then again he might not be, but I don't know.

[chesskid3]

I read a scum game of his. It was different.

[chesskid3]

Narsis isn't a bulletproof survivor, he'd have just claimed it. No point lynching them until the day before LYLO.

Vig andrew if you want, I could be wrong.

[chesskid3]

Link?

[chesskid3]

Newbie something close to 1000

[chesskid3]

Like 999 I think. I replaced out because Boberz was an insufferable jackass, and he replaced me, read the game out of curiosity.

[chesskid3]

I'm not gonna fight super hard for his life. I don't really care if you kill him, because it's a great kill if he's scum, and not such a great loss if he's scum.

[chesskid3]

er, yeah.

[chesskid3]

Except for the part where he's town, yes.

[chesskid3]

You know who makes idiotic arguments like that?

Idiots.

[chesskid3]

So kill him and watch him flip town.

[chesskid3]

You know who makes idiotic arguments like that?

Idiots.

[chesskid3]

It's not. I explained that FMPOV he's playing his town game, and it's different in my view than his scum game.
Now you're free to disagree, but saying that I have provided no justification is scumtastic.

[chesskid3]

And? How long has been on site exactly? That game was about 2 months ago.

[chesskid3]

Feel. Free. To. Ignore. My. Opinion. And. Shoot. Him. Anyway. But. I. Strongly. Believe. He. Is. Town.

Capiche?

[chesskid3]

OH NOZE HEAVILY SCRUTINIZED

[chesskid3]

[chesskid3]

Katsuki unwilling to lynch Adumbro but not man enough to just say it?

[chesskid3]

Katsuki I saw you steal my quadruple facepalm pic. Tsk tsk

[chesskid3]

Adumbro is a very good play today.
Not going to cry if Andrew/Malthusis/Dark Horse/Katsuki die either.

[chesskid3]

definite unclaimed powers.

I believe andrew is town, but he's dead weight at best, so I'm not going to cry if he dies.

[chesskid3]

Which is why I'd be far happier with someone else getting dayvigged at the end of today, but OH FUCKING WELL

[chesskid3]

Andrew is currently going to be shot, yes. ADumbro is a good lynch. Malthusis/Narsis are good shots. Agreed

[chesskid3]

btw there are more facepalms.

are not

[chesskid3]

Katsuki, if Adumbro flips scum, you're going to be in trouble, yesh?

[chesskid3]

oh ok the caption was different

[chesskid3]

Adumbro dies.

[chesskid3]

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

DH was lying

[chesskid3]

yeah lets do that

[chesskid3]

you cant shoot me becos i have potentially pro abilities.

unvote vote adumbro

i need to hammer, was that the hamemr?

Dat suicide lol

[chesskid3]

You fucking idiots. I FUCKING SAID NOT TO GO VIG HAPPY. WHAT THE FUCK

[chesskid3]

Whoever did those kills needs to claim them, now.

[chesskid3]

I'd say it's the knife in the back.

[chesskid3]

I have a final tomorrow morning.

However, gandalf needs to explain what happened with the dayvig.
We are also lynching malthusis today, no exceptions. WE'RE ALSO NOT PLAYING FOLLOW THE CHESSKID TODAY.

Vote: Malthusis

P-EDIT: Your action failed? So spyspy was roleblocked?...

....You aren't claiming any of those kills?

[chesskid3]

WELL THEN MAYBE YOU WOULD LIKE TO TELL ME WHY YOU STABBED DOOMBUNNY IN THE BACK?

[chesskid3]

Vote: Katsuki

You know what, don't bother. Just die.

[chesskid3]

The one thing that worries me is an 8-3-1 with "knife in the back" being SK flavor, which would put us at 3-3 going into night. Welp.
Gandalf what's up with your shot?

[chesskid3]

Vezok or Narsis for sure, since the flavor suggests Magic Missile for one of them, and some energy bolt thingy for the other, both of which I can see as 1-shot vigs. Based on scuminess, I would say Narsis, but uh yeah own up to your kills, people.

[chesskid3]

Claiming the kill forces both to come out, though. If we make them both come out, we know there is at most one scum in those 2 people. If only 1 comes out, they're town, since any town HAS to come out now, no?

[chesskid3]

Lol ok yeah you need to die. I used a watch/track shot on you. You visited Doombunny, and nobody visited you. Bye!

[chesskid3]

Bleh. A clear would be super super super awesome though. Meh. Massclaim tomorrow, I guess, depending on how tonight goes.

Don't end today before Gandalf gets his ass in here and explains.

[chesskid3]

Except they clearly have shit-tastic aim. I swear to god if they shot vezok I am going to yell at them for a long time postgame.

[chesskid3]

Dude, unvoting is not cool, unless you're just unvoting to wait for people to claim stuffz, and then put your vote right back on mr scumface.

[chesskid3]

Aight, cool cool.

[chesskid3]

For tonight:
chesskid3 (3) -

Doombunny9, AdumbroDeus

, Dark Horse

vezokpiraka (3) - Riceballtail, Narsis

, Dark Horse


gandalf5166 (1) -

AdumbroDeus

malthusis (0) -

Riceballtail

(3) - chesskid3,

vezokpiraka, Doombunny9

ThAdmiral (2) - andrew94, gandalf5166
Narsis (0) -
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (1) - Dark Horse,

Doombunny9

(1) - ThAdmiral

vezokpiraka (2) - Riceballtail, Narsis

andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (0) -

AdumbroDeus

(1) -

Katsuki

Not voting (1) - malthusis

Riceballtail (5) - vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Narsis

,

Katsuki

,

Dark Horse

Spyrex

Riceballtail (7) - vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Narsis

,

Katsuki

,

Dark Horse

Spyrex, gandalf5166, chesskid

Narsis (4) - Doombunny9

, ThAdmiral,

Dark Horse

Spyrex, gandalf5166
malthusis (3) - chesskid,

Katsuki

,

vezokpiraka

malthusis (4) -

Katsuki

,

vezokpiraka, Doombunny9

,

Dark Horse

Spyrex,

AdumbroDeus

(4) - ThAdmiral, chesskid, gandalf5166,

vezokpiraka

malthusis (3) -

Doombunny9

,

Dark Horse

Spyrex,

Katsuki

malthusis (2) -

Dark Horse

Spyrex,

Katsuki

AdumbroDeus

(6) - ThAdmiral, chesskid, gandalf5166,

vezokpiraka, Doombunny9

, andrew94

[chesskid3]

I took the liberty of making katsuki red.

@ mod: can you fix my tags please? <3

[chesskid3]

Ok so far we have:
Didn't kill people:
Chesskid
Spyrex
Malthusis

Killed Doombunny:
Katsuki

yet to claim, with 2 kills outstanding:
Gandalf
ThAdmiral
Andrew94

[chesskid3]

I fucking hate you

[chesskid3]

Sorry, that sounds kind of mean.

I

fucking hate

strongly dislike you

[chesskid3]

MY TOWN READ ON VEZOK WAS 100%

[chesskid3]

my townreads are all dead, except gandalf. And I strongly dislike gandalf. FML

[chesskid3]

hopefully get a vig to waste a shot

EH?

[chesskid3]

Katsuki flipping non-SK would prettymuch clear Andrew and Malthusis of being non-SK, though. :/

[chesskid3]

ThAdmiral/Katsuki/Spyrex are looking good for a scumteam, based on VC analysis, just saying.
No death millers required.

[chesskid3]

Who cares who malthusis protected? Anyway my Spyrex-possiscum read is based on the VC analysis, he's always on a convenient wagon, etc.
That is for another day, however.
We hit Katsuki, we have to, to minimize the number of kills, at worst it's 3:3 going into night, at best 4-2. Former requires a great night, latter requires an ok night.

I mean I guess I would also be up for lynching non-Katsuki, but then if we assume 8-3-1 that puts us at 3-2-1 in night, and we live on die on the SK's aim, or 4-1-1 which would be 2-1-1 and a kingmaker.

4-2 > 4-1-1, and we know for sure Katsuki is scum. I say we lynch him.

[chesskid3]

If Katsuki flips SK, though, treat him as town in the VC analysis. It still makes ThaD and Spyrex look bad, I believe.

[chesskid3]

FTR I really like today's title, and your votecount titles have been awesome

[chesskid3]

Nobody targetted Kat, Gandalf. I said this like 2 pages ago

[chesskid3]

Kat flipping SK would make Spyrex look better and Malthusis look a bit worse I guess. Sure. But meep.

Also looking like ThAdmiral is scum no matter how you slice the cake.

[chesskid3]

bleh no people can just go to the other analysis and color it in their heads. I color katsuki in because he's 100% scum, while i'm pretty sure on ThAd, it's not 100%

[chesskid3]

Kat scum flips back on Mal town, Spyrex scum .

That being said maybe it's 9-2-1

[chesskid3]

Hmm yeah. Noticing how ThAd is never on the big wagons, I'm liking him for scum even more.

[chesskid3]

I don't regret either lynch, btw.

[chesskid3]

ANDREW I FREAKING SEE YOU POSTING IN OTHER GAMES. GET IN HERE

[chesskid3]

Ok. What else do we need to do today before we lynch Katsuki?

[chesskid3]

Oh yeah. That would be good.

@gandalf: I can self-protect.

[chesskid3]

Man am I glad I stopped everybody N1. Probably would have had 4 deaths if I hadn't lol

[chesskid3]

I'm waiting for him to try the claiming SK thing next.

[chesskid3]

A pyromancer? There's no such thing, at least not as a specialization.

HAHAHHAHHA Scum #2 caught.

[chesskid3]

Andrew looking really good for the 3rd buddy? Ya?

[chesskid3]

Actually, my dear mr. Andrew94, You're "fcking retarded"

[chesskid3]

Katsuki. Please try to follow.

[chesskid3]

lol uh so I totally fakeclaimed as scum and got the SK, right? SURRRRRRRRRRE

[chesskid3]

So post-game when I'm not scum, you'll lick my balls?

[chesskid3]

9-2-1, then.

[chesskid3]

I swear to god if anyone throws a vote down, I shall beat them to death with my fists.

[chesskid3]

It's MC time. We can do popcorn, or we can do a preset order, but either way I'm going last, since I'm (nearly, if not fully) conftown.

[chesskid3]

VC analysis time.

[chesskid3]

Sometimes its nice to see the patterns sheesh.

D1:

gandalf5166 (1) -

AdumbroDeus

malthusis (0) -

riceballtail

(7) -

vezokpiraka

,

Doombunny9

,

Narsis

,

Katsuki

,

SpyreX

, gandalf5166, chesskid

ThAdmirali

(1) -

Narsis

(0) -
chesskid3 (2) - ,

riceballtail

, andrew94

Doombunny9

(1) -

ThAdmirali

vezokpiraka

(0) -
andrew94 (0) -

Katsuki

(0) -

AdumbroDeus

(1) - malthusis

D2:

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (2) -

SpyreX

,

Katsuki

ThAdmirali

(0) -

Narsis

(0 -

SpyreX

(0) -
chesskid3 (1) -

AdumbroDeus

Doombunny9

(0) -

vezokpiraka

(0) -
andrew94 (0) -

Katsuki

(1) - malthusis

AdumbroDeus

(6) -

ThAdmirali

, chesskid, gandalf5166,

vezokpiraka

,

Doombunny9

, andrew94

Not voting (1) -

Narsis

-----

HRM.

Looking at it all pretty I like ThAd for scum more.

Assuming 3/1 SK AND Kat is the SK AND ThAd is scum (if he's not, really, we're in trouble):

One of {SpyreX, gan, chess} / {chess, gan, andrew} / {andrew, malth} / {Spyrex, Malth}

I really don't think chess is scum. I'm not scum.

BUT, here's the problem. Even with the stupid yesterday I've liked gan this game sooo I'm not sure whats going on.

This pans out to {Malth}, {gan/andrew}, {ThAd} / {Kat}

I'm not sure how much Kat-scum changes it.

[chesskid3]

Spy's with his colored. Updating mine too.

[chesskid3]

Votecount - Discussion heats up

malthusis (1) - andrew94
ThAdmiral (1) -

Riceballtail

Narsis

(1) - chesskid3
chesskid3 (3) -

Doombunny9, AdumbroDeus, Spyrex

andrew94 (2) -

Katsuki

, gandalf5166

Not Voting: ThAdmiral,

Narsis

,Malthusis,

Vezokpiraka

Votecount - Discussion heats up

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (2) - andrew94,

vezokpiraka

Riceballtail

(0) -
ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis

(1) - chesskid3

Spyrex

(0) -
chesskid3 (2) -

Spyrex

, gandalf5166

Doombunny9

(0) -

vezokpiraka (2) - Riceballtail, Narsis

andrew94 (0) -

Katsuk

(0) -

AdumbroDeus

(2) -

Katsuki

,

Doombunny9

Not voting (3) - malthusis, ThAdmiral,

AdumbroDeus

Votecount - I bet they're about to start launching fireballs at each other now...

gandalf5166 (1) -

AdumbroDeus

malthusis (0) -

Riceballtail

(3) - chesskid3,

vezokpiraka, Doombunny9

ThAdmiral (2) - andrew94, gandalf5166

Narsis

(0) -

Spyrex

(0) -
chesskid3 (1) -

Spyrex

Doombunny9

(1) - ThAdmiral

vezokpiraka (2) - Riceballtail, Narsis

andrew94 (0) -

Katsuki

(0) -

AdumbroDeus

(1) -

Katsuki

Not voting (1) - malthusis

Votecount - Sunset is coming...

gandalf5166 (1) -

AdumbroDeus

malthusis (0) -

Riceballtail (5) - vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Narsis

,

Katsuki

,

Spyrex

Spyrex

(1) - gandalf5166
chesskid3 (2) - ,

Riceballtail

, andrew94

Doombunny9

(1) - ThAdmiral

AdumbroDeus

(1) - malthusis

Votecount - The first decision...

gandalf5166 (1) - AdumbroDeus
malthusis (0) -

Riceballtail (7) - vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Narsis

,

Katsuki

,

Spyrex

, gandalf5166, chesskid3
chesskid3 (2) - ,

Riceballtail

, andrew94

Doombunny9

(1) - ThAdmiral
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (0) -

AdumbroDeus

(1) - malthusis

Sick of coloring everything. Not coloring people with 0 votes anymore.

Votecount - What happened last night?

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (0) -
ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis (1) - Doombunny9

Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (0) -
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (3) - gandalf5166,

Spyrex

, chesskid
Katsuki (0) -
AdumbroDeus (0) -

Votecount - A consensus is near?

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (3) - chesskid,

Katsuki

,

vezokpiraka

ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis (4) - Doombunny9

, ThAdmiral,

Spyrex

, gandalf5166
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (0) -

Doombunny9 (1) - Narsis

vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (0) -

AdumbroDeus

(1) - malthusis

Not voting (2) - andrew94,

AdumbroDeus

/quote]

Votecount - This' getting interesting

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (4) -

Katsuki

,

vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Dark Horse,

ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis

(2) - ThAdmiral, andrew94
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (0) -
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (1) - malthusis
AdumbroDeus (0) -

Not voting (4) - AdumbroDeus, Narsis, chesskid, gandalf5166

Votecount - I kinda forget to post this... ¬_¬

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (3) -

Doombunny9, Dark Horse

,

Katsuki

ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis

(1) - , andrew94
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (1) - AdumbroDeus
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (1) - malthusis

AdumbroDeus

(4) - ThAdmiral, chesskid, gandalf5166,

vezokpiraka

Votecount - Da Hammah

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (2) - Dark Horse, Katsuki
ThAdmiral (0) -
Narsis (0 -
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (1) - AdumbroDeus
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -

Katsuki

(1) - malthusis

AdumbroDeus

(6) - ThAdmiral, chesskid, gandalf5166,

vezokpiraka, Doombunny9

,andrew94

Not voting (1) - Narsis

asfoajiofjaodfiaof. Not bothering with D3 since there's no information to get from that.
Analysis pending

[chesskid3]

Fine.
ThAd
Mal
Gandalf
Andrew
Me
?

[chesskid3]

oh my god so much fail.

[chesskid3]

Votecount - Discussion heats up

malthusis (1) - andrew94
ThAdmiral (1) -

Riceballtail

Narsis

(1) - chesskid3
chesskid3 (3) -

Doombunny9, AdumbroDeus, Spyrex

andrew94 (2) -

Katsuki

, gandalf5166

Not Voting: ThAdmiral,

Narsis

,Malthusis,

Vezokpiraka

Votecount - Discussion heats up

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (2) - andrew94,

vezokpiraka

Riceballtail

(0) -
ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis

(1) - chesskid3

Spyrex

(0) -
chesskid3 (2) -

Spyrex

, gandalf5166

Doombunny9

(0) -

vezokpiraka (2) - Riceballtail, Narsis

andrew94 (0) -

Katsuk

(0) -

AdumbroDeus

(2) -

Katsuki

,

Doombunny9

Not voting (3) - malthusis, ThAdmiral,

AdumbroDeus

Votecount - I bet they're about to start launching fireballs at each other now...

gandalf5166 (1) -

AdumbroDeus

malthusis (0) -

Riceballtail

(3) - chesskid3,

vezokpiraka, Doombunny9

ThAdmiral (2) - andrew94, gandalf5166

Narsis

(0) -

Spyrex

(0) -
chesskid3 (1) -

Spyrex

Doombunny9

(1) - ThAdmiral

vezokpiraka (2) - Riceballtail, Narsis

andrew94 (0) -

Katsuki

(0) -

AdumbroDeus

(1) -

Katsuki

Not voting (1) - malthusis

Votecount - Sunset is coming...

gandalf5166 (1) -

AdumbroDeus

malthusis (0) -

Riceballtail (5) - vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Narsis

,

Katsuki

,

Spyrex

Spyrex

(1) - gandalf5166
chesskid3 (2) - ,

Riceballtail

, andrew94

Doombunny9

(1) - ThAdmiral

AdumbroDeus

(1) - malthusis

Votecount - The first decision...

gandalf5166 (1) - AdumbroDeus
malthusis (0) -

Riceballtail (7) - vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Narsis

,

Katsuki

,

Spyrex

, gandalf5166, chesskid3
chesskid3 (2) - ,

Riceballtail

, andrew94

Doombunny9

(1) - ThAdmiral
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (0) -

AdumbroDeus

(1) - malthusis

Sick of coloring everything. Not coloring people with 0 votes anymore.

Votecount - What happened last night?

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (0) -
ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis (1) - Doombunny9

Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (0) -
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (3) - gandalf5166,

Spyrex

, chesskid
Katsuki (0) -
AdumbroDeus (0) -

Votecount - A consensus is near?

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (3) - chesskid,

Katsuki

,

vezokpiraka

ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis (4) - Doombunny9

, ThAdmiral,

Spyrex

, gandalf5166
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (0) -

Doombunny9 (1) - Narsis

vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (0) -

AdumbroDeus

(1) - malthusis

Not voting (2) - andrew94,

AdumbroDeus

Votecount - This' getting interesting

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (4) -

Katsuki

,

vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Dark Horse,

ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis

(2) - ThAdmiral, andrew94
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (0) -
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (1) - malthusis
AdumbroDeus (0) -

Not voting (4) - AdumbroDeus, Narsis, chesskid, gandalf5166

Votecount - I kinda forget to post this... ¬_¬

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (3) -

Doombunny9, Dark Horse

,

Katsuki

ThAdmiral (0) -

Narsis

(1) - , andrew94
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (1) - AdumbroDeus
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (1) - malthusis

AdumbroDeus

(4) - ThAdmiral, chesskid, gandalf5166,

vezokpiraka

Votecount - Da Hammah

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (2) - Dark Horse, Katsuki
ThAdmiral (0) -
Narsis (0 -
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (1) - AdumbroDeus
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -

Katsuki

(1) - malthusis

AdumbroDeus

(6) - ThAdmiral, chesskid, gandalf5166,

vezokpiraka, Doombunny9

,andrew94

Not voting (1) - Narsis

asfoajiofjaodfiaof. Not bothering with D3 since there's no information to get from that.
Analysis pending[/quote]

[chesskid3]

Not on the RBT wagon:
Malthusis
ThAdmiral
Andrew
Not on the Adumbro wagon:
Malthusis

Living people CK has voted for:
Andrew94
Malthusis
Living people Malthusis has voted for:
Nobody
Living people ThAdmiral has voted for:
Nobody
Living people Andrew94 has voted for:
Malthusis
ThAdmiral
Chesskid
Living people Gandalf has voted for:
Andrew94
Chesskid
ThAdmiral


...fffffffffffffffffffffff

[chesskid3]

gandalf5166 (1) - AdumbroDeus
malthusis (0) -
Riceballtail (7) - vezokpiraka, Doombunny9, Narsis, Katsuki, Spyrex, gandalf5166, chesskid3
chesskid3 (2) - , Riceballtail, andrew94
Doombunny9 (1) - ThAdmiral
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (0) -
AdumbroDeus (1) - malthusis

This should be helpful. but 3 living players deliberately avoided the wagon. UGH.

[chesskid3]

oh you said _before_ ThAd.

:/
Andrew
Gandalf
ThAd
Mal, then?

[chesskid3]

Yeah, last.

[chesskid3]

All actions used need to be claimed as well, btw.

[chesskid3]

Wait, no.
Mal
Andrew
Gandalf
ThAd
I guess?

[chesskid3]

That way whatever gandalf is talking about works. Idk.

[chesskid3]

Or andrew can go before Mal. I don't really care.

[chesskid3]

Whatever. We can work out an action claim plan after MC

[chesskid3]

oh yeah. Ok.

Andrew, you're up.

[chesskid3]

Gandalf, go.

[chesskid3]

and your not confirmed town to me chess.

k

[chesskid3]

You were online, you read your PM.
Now you are not online.
PRoblem with your fakeclaim?

[chesskid3]

ThAd, go

[chesskid3]

Yeah I'd have much preferred you go after him.
Oh well. Whatever.

[chesskid3]

rage, he was on as well, and now he's also offline

[chesskid3]

lets wait for him before speculation

[chesskid3]

Hrm.
I'm a creator.
Spells are mage armour,acid arrow,fog cloud,stinking cloud,sleet storm and dimension door.
Mage armour is 1-shot doc
acid arrow is 1-shot vig
fog cloud is 1-shot block all actions on target
Stinking cloud is 1-shot end day with no lynch
Sleet storm is 1-shot prevent all actions during night
dimension door is 1-shot watch+track on same target.

[chesskid3]

Oh uh Sleet storm/dimension door katsuki/mage armour self.

[chesskid3]

Andrew needs to elaborate

[chesskid3]

Ok so uh Andrew could very well have stolen his claim from Narsis, who also claimed that.

Legend Lore reads like a rolecop to me :/

[chesskid3]

Lol please don't goad people into early voting at lylo
tsk tsk. bad mod!

[chesskid3]

Dude i want to let the claimed vengeful live until tomorrow, if we can for sure get the other scum
Because uh you know lynching one of you who shoots the other sounds pretty fun

[chesskid3]

holy crap my desire to lynch andrew just went through the roof

[chesskid3]

Is he for real?

[chesskid3]

No the problem is that this vengeful claim from ThAd is bs, then what it does is basically removing himself as a lynch until tomorrow, and thus increasing the odds we ML to 2/3.

Honestly I feel like lynching ThAd, having him shoot whoever if he flips town, and then take the 1v2 going into to night and hope shit works. :/

[chesskid3]

what was your thing about andrew claiming no actions all about, btw?

[chesskid3]

ITT we discover that malthusis and ThAdmiral are not BOTH town. *le gasp*.

Who isn't surprised at all?

[chesskid3]

Could also be scum together.

[chesskid3]

Doombunny was a VT too.