Mini #1081 - SitMOA Mafia (Endgame... Congrats, winners!)

[chesskid3]

I fucking hate you

[chesskid3]

Sorry, that sounds kind of mean.

I

fucking hate

strongly dislike you

[malthusis]

Just a quick note, no matter what we need to wait for everyone to comment about what happened before we get a lynch through.

And ultimately if it comes down to it, I trust my own case and chesskid's word over Katsuki's any day.

Also another note: I know vezok was town, but would you have honestly trusted him in Lylo?

[chesskid3]

MY TOWN READ ON VEZOK WAS 100%

[chesskid3]

my townreads are all dead, except gandalf. And I strongly dislike gandalf. FML

[chesskid3]

hopefully get a vig to waste a shot

EH?

[chesskid3]

Katsuki flipping non-SK would prettymuch clear Andrew and Malthusis of being non-SK, though. :/

[gandalf5166]

Well, I was afraid that there might be too many people who would shoot their vig off at the first chance. So I wanted to draw a vig, since apparently wasted shots are re-usable anyways. But mainly the mafia night-kill.

[gandalf5166]

One thing: Assuming that RBT isn't a death miller, there are still three scum out there, as opposed to one SK. We lynch the SK, and we're screwed. We lynch scum...... and we're still screwed. Death miller sounding less ridiculous now?

[chesskid3]

ThAdmiral/Katsuki/Spyrex are looking good for a scumteam, based on VC analysis, just saying.
No death millers required.

[malthusis]

I'm inclined to agree with you on DH/Spyrex. This set of posts made by DH was a really scummy way of slipping onto my wagon:

Katsuki has a point, malth provided 0 solid stances for anyone in his last couple of posts.

Fos: Malth

@maf do the town a favor and nk andrew plz.

If narsis is getting vigged, then I'll go with my FoS.

Unvote, Vote: Malth

[malthusis]

EBWOP: Gandalf, do you honestly still think that RBT is a death anti-miller? And more importantly, how does that affect what we're doing?

[gandalf5166]

It means that the game is still winnable for town.......

Someone was slashed to death. No wizard would slash someone to death, which means we're dealing with a different class, which according to the rules, means we're dealing with a third-party. So we HAVE to have an SK.

[malthusis]

If we have an SK, it's probably 9:2:1 setup, so it would be 4:2:1 right now. If we lynch SK, (all of these possibilities account for no wacky night actions) we will be 3:2. If we lynch scum, it will be 4:1:1 after lynch, and then an interesting situation comes up :

Assuming both non-town players kill, we need to hope for a cross kill or block advantageous to town. Otherwise it's going to be 2:1:1, and the SK is an extremely good chance to win by lynching scum, and hoping that his kill goes through.

However, we have one trump card: me. I find it so ironic that everyone was saying "Oh noez, why would you ever use your JK ability when you can just protect yourself"? All I have to do in a worst case situation is simply jail-keep a anti-town kill, and as long as we keep killing right, we can still win.

This game is not a lost cause, as long as we keep lynching correctly, we still win.

[gandalf5166]

:applause:

Of course scum makes it sound like he's our only chance to win.

[Katsuki]

my townreads are all dead, except gandalf. And I strongly dislike gandalf. FML

FYI all your former scumreads flipped town.

Chesskid is lying about his result on me last night. There was no way I could have been targetted.

@Malthusis: How did you know your protection failed? Who did you protect last night?

I know I am not scum.
I do not think spyspy is scum.

Hence, that leaves chesskid, gandalf, andrew, and thad for scum.

^We has scum in the above.

[Katsuki]

Actually nvm I can guess who malthusis protected.

Malthusis is town.

[gandalf5166]

Kat, do you really think he protected you? He protected me. Why in the fuck would he protect you? He protected me because I had claimed dayvig(which wasn't really necessary, but whatevs).

Give one good reason why he would protect you. That said, Malt should really get in here and settle this.

[chesskid3]

Who cares who malthusis protected? Anyway my Spyrex-possiscum read is based on the VC analysis, he's always on a convenient wagon, etc.
That is for another day, however.
We hit Katsuki, we have to, to minimize the number of kills, at worst it's 3:3 going into night, at best 4-2. Former requires a great night, latter requires an ok night.

I mean I guess I would also be up for lynching non-Katsuki, but then if we assume 8-3-1 that puts us at 3-2-1 in night, and we live on die on the SK's aim, or 4-1-1 which would be 2-1-1 and a kingmaker.

4-2 > 4-1-1, and we know for sure Katsuki is scum. I say we lynch him.

[chesskid3]

If Katsuki flips SK, though, treat him as town in the VC analysis. It still makes ThaD and Spyrex look bad, I believe.

[Snow_Bunny]

Votecount - Lies and slanders?

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (0) -
ThAdmiral (0) -
SpyreX (0) -
chesskid3 (0) -
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (1) - chesskid

Not voting (6) - Katsuki, SpyreX, gandalf5166, malthusis, andrew94, ThAdmiral

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is on at December 23rd at midnight.

[chesskid3]

FTR I really like today's title, and your votecount titles have been awesome

[gandalf5166]

Alright. But I'm not going to vote until Malt settles it. Because if he targeted Kat, Kat is either town or they're scumbuddies.

[SpyreX]

Its gonna be kat and if SK gamblin on things coming out right.

This also means that I'll be throwin down the poly tonight too if kat is an sk.

And, remember:

Ye short list:
Adumbro
Malth
Narsis
Vezo

The world was nice enough to clean most of that there up but there's one left.

[chesskid3]

Nobody targetted Kat, Gandalf. I said this like 2 pages ago