Green Crayons wrote:I'm fatigued at night and was merely establishing myself in the thread. Also, I take exception to the label of a "joke vote." I don't joke around with my votes, but they are necessary in the early stages of the game. End of the list is a common target of my first vote simply to put it somewhere. Coupled with the fact that Yos had not (and still hasn't) made himself known in the thread, and I would say my vote is more "faintly useful random" than "joke." /egobruise
Looking up your first vote reasons, here's what I found:
No "random" vote in
Cops and Robbers. First post (linked) is immediately probing into others' actions.
Your reason in
Office Supplies is "last on the list".
In
Bleach (ongoing) your first vote is not for someone on bottom of the list, and you don't give further reasoning.
In
Sanity Ensues your first vote is not for someone on the bottom of the list, and your reasoning is "because I can".
In
Fairytale you vote someone where the implied reason is double voting on the voted player's part.
In
PS2SUXZ! you vote someone for voting no lynch.
In
Werewolf you vote someone for being last to confirm.
Note that I haven't checked all of your games by far, but going back 9 games, you only voted for the player at the bottom of the list once. Your claim of "at end of list" being a common reason for random votes doesn't seem to be particularly credible so far.
DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:Unvote
, Since we seem to be taking things seriously now. Green makes a persuasive argument. Camn, if you're going to try and make a case against someone based on a metaread, you need to be able to justify it when challenged. It is your case. Don't expect other poeople to make it for you.
Why do you consider the observation that "we seem to be taking things seriously now" something that makes your vote useless?
camn, don't you think that Green Crayons' request for you to back up your claims of charter previously being scummy in your games is reasonable?
I agree with Green Crayons' observation that the fact that charter hadn't been endgamed in both linked games implies that his obvscumminess apparently wasn't obv; however that may be an irrelevant point if camn's opinion had been different, since it's her own perception of charter that we're discussing. In Tranquility (672) one of her top suspects since the early game is charter. In Troy, Meet Helen (611) she also suspects charter on and off. Her stated suspicion of charter seems validated by those two links.
camn:
do you think that basing your vote on meta from two games is worthwhile or valid?
charter:
are there any more games that you and camn have been together in?
Green Crayons wrote:Yes. I hate, hate, hate the random voting stage. It's a waste of life. I make an attempt to at least have some reason to vote someone
Yet you have a stated tendency to always use the same reason for a first vote. Don't you think those two things are contradictory?
I don't like Yos' wishy-washy post 39. He's "meh" on both semi-serious points of discussion, and votes randomly, apparently.
