I understand that answer, but it's better to go for theories from players acting more protown than others? It doesn't mean ignore holes in a theory because the theorizer seems to be a good guy, but you have to take it into consideration.chamber wrote:Why should a theory be judged based more on who's suggesting it than its own merits?Head_Honcho wrote:Chamber, why is Zakeri suddenly scum for thinking you are scummier than Shotty to the Body?
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You're going to have to be more clear than that, as I don't know what you are referring to. Do you and Shotty have opposing theories or something?chamber wrote:
Why should a theory be judged based more on who's suggesting it than its own merits?Head_Honcho wrote:Chamber, why is Zakeri suddenly scum for thinking you are scummier than Shotty to the Body?Immoral Acts: 0-
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I suggested that all the scum are likely slivers. He suggested there is likely 1 sliver group and 1 volrath group (of whom metallic sliver belonged). I claimed a pro-volrath card/character so in his theory I'd be likely scum. Zak than came along and said "I think shotty is town so his theory is right.". That's a terrible argument.Head_Honcho wrote:
You're going to have to be more clear than that, as I don't know what you are referring to. Do you and Shotty have opposing theories or something?chamber wrote:
Why should a theory be judged based more on who's suggesting it than its own merits?Head_Honcho wrote:Chamber, why is Zakeri suddenly scum for thinking you are scummier than Shotty to the Body?Taking a break from the site.-
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Misrepresentation. Coming from someone who I don't think is trying to mess with our heads is just one of the theory's Merits, I've already explained in 828 what the theory's other merits are.chamber wrote:
Why should a theory be judged based more on who's suggesting it than its own merits?Head_Honcho wrote:Chamber, why is Zakeri suddenly scum for thinking you are scummier than Shotty to the Body?-
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Why would 2 groups of 2 slivers not make sense flavourwise?Zakeri wrote:This might actually be a really good lead, since watch:
Chances are good that the two mafias this game are Slivers and Volrath's underlings. I'm willing to believe this since it doesn't make sense flavorwise to have two different groups slivers in the same game.Chamber: Vhati Il-Dal (Member of the Dal tribeallied with Volrath, see above)
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well, from my understanding of the story, the slivers only have a single hivemind. From the scumflips we have so far, while both are slivers, it's important to note one of those slivers is an infiltrator flavorwise, and is part of a different scumgroup than the the one that is just slivers. It just sort of clicks better.
I do realize that we might be screwing ourselves over by following these theories, since it's basically just "outguessing the mod", which is why I haven't switched my vote, but this just makes too much sense, really."You know, I was hoping for a cop investigation. But instead I get [two vig kills]... okay." - Zakeri
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The timespiral mafia(one of whichs role was to switch games people are in) was comprised of slivers. This means, if we assume at least 1 of the remaining mafia members is a sliver, that at least 2 groups of slivers already had the potential to be against each other in attempting a win. In what way is that different from both starting in the same game.Taking a break from the site.-
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Shotty already corrected you. I'm guessing that you really don't play much Magic.Bogre wrote:Chamber feels more scummier than Zakeri to me- I'd like an answer as well to the 'omg you are so scum.'
Also, to Starbuck and HH: I am a legend, costing green/white mana, not a color.
Also, you already claimed your card, but I'll link it again for everyone else again.
Because if the person is already seen as scummy, then theory will be seen as scummy.chamber wrote:
Why should a theory be judged based more on who's suggesting it than its own merits?Head_Honcho wrote:Chamber, why is Zakeri suddenly scum for thinking you are scummier than Shotty to the Body?
@Zakeri - You only refer to our game in 880, what about the other games flips?
I was just thinking about something while looking at Bogre's card. Could the game be creatures vs humans? I haven't gone back yet to re-read and see if this is true. All of our mafia/independents could be creatures, and the town could be humans.<3 Kise, Reck, dram, tans, & Kats <3-
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I thinkunvote Vote: Chamberis the right move today. This is somewhat PoE, which is to say I have been trying to get a good meta read on Bogre's role, and I don't think semioldguy or slicey would want to replace out of a scum role. Also, it turns out that almost all of the townie reads Slicey brought up on people I found scummy at the time have been pretty accurate. Sudai seemed vaguely scummy to me and he and chenhsi did kind of ignore eachother. And chamber's reaction to Zakeri's 'shotty or chamber' post rubbed me very much the wrong way.
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I thought the running theory had me paired with percy?Head_Honcho wrote:I thinkunvote Vote: Chamberis the right move today. This is somewhat PoE, which is to say I have been trying to get a good meta read on Bogre's role, and I don't think semioldguy or slicey would want to replace out of a scum role. Also, it turns out that almost all of the townie reads Slicey brought up on people I found scummy at the time have been pretty accurate. Sudai seemed vaguely scummy to me andhe and chenhsidid kind of ignore eachother. And chamber's reaction to Zakeri's 'shotty or chamber' post rubbed me very much the wrong way.
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Vigging me had nothing to do with my response. As I said it was about the way he painted shottys argument as truthful based solely on the fact that he felt he was town. Imo anyway. I mean why mention the theory bit at all if all he was doing was responding to the question asked?Head_Honcho wrote:Zakeri's post basically boiled down to 'I think shotty is town, so I would vig Chamber', and your response was 'Zakeri is so scum'. It struck me as kind of over defensive.Taking a break from the site.-
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I prepare meticulous background profiles on every single player in a game with me, bwahahaha. Naw, I'm RL friends with hasdgfas so I hear him talk about other people from time to time.chamber wrote:
Didn't think of it at the time, but you know this how?Shotty to the Body wrote:Don't vote him for that, that is what chamber does."By three methods we may learn wisdom: First, by reflection, which is noblest; Second, by imitation, which is easiest; and third by experience, which is the bitterest." -Confucius-
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The Fourteenth Vote Count (aka the "A Vote A Day Makes The Lynch Say Nay" Vote Count)
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18) Zakeri (1) - Chamber
20) Bogre (rep. Slicey who rep. semioldguy) (1) - Zakeri
21) Chamber (rep. Sudai) (2) - Starbuck,Head_Honcho
22) Head_Honcho (0) -
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So it's today? I didn't think it was until the 25th.
Oh well, We've pretty much decided anyway, and I endorse a Chamber lynch after the past few days.
Unvote, Vote: Chamber"You know, I was hoping for a cop investigation. But instead I get [two vig kills]... okay." - Zakeri
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Don't get impatient, jeez. I know its the deadline. Just been trying to figure out what exactly I think about this game.
Chamber at the moment is contributing the least, he doesn't give a good explanation for the whole volrath/sliver alignment thing...I think he's the best bet.
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