SSK(Under Zwet's Evil Mind Powers)'s Random Mafia XL Day 3

[Kitoari]

UNVOTE

Now with 99% less broken tags.

Unvote, vote Night

Get rid of the night, Cops know who to target during the day to avoid mislynch, Vig's know who the town want dead, several possible roles in this game seems better if used during the day instead of night.

I think actions would be resolved IN style, which is kinda a mixed bag. Maybe ask the mod how he'd do it.

[gandalf5166]

Would it be a Deep south kind of thing, or would actions resolve immediately?

Deep South kind of thing.

[WeaponsofMassConstruction]

Yeah, Helghast is probably scum. Textbook call to action play.

But,

unvote, vote: Night

[Feysal]

Vote: Feysal

For posting without a random vote. CLEARLY trying to avoid this stage of the game.

That is true, I don't believe in random votes serving a real purpose in scumhunting.

However, since you asked so kindly, I rolled my patently untrustworthy d20 and it stopped on 18. Thus:

Vote: Helghast

Are we seriously considering voting away the night phase? Hmm... I can see it having advantages for town, but it would have some disadvantages as well. Such as screwing up the natural order of resolving actions.

[Bunnylover]

Alright I asked the mod about what will happen if we got rid of night, and we would just use any actions during the Twilight phase.

Unvote

I would get rid of night if the powers were during the day, but since they aren't =/

[IH]

Feysal is scum.

Are we seriously considering voting away the night phase? Hmm... I can see it having advantages for town, but it would have some disadvantages as well. Such as screwing up the natural order of resolving actions.

This type of statement right here just screams as scum, and I'm pretty sure as scum in older games I've made very similar statements, but he's really riding the fence.

unvote, vote:Feysal

[Kitoari]

Feysal is scum.

Are we seriously considering voting away the night phase? Hmm... I can see it having advantages for town, but it would have some disadvantages as well. Such as screwing up the natural order of resolving actions.

This type of statement right here just screams as scum, and I'm pretty sure as scum in older games I've made very similar statements, but he's really riding the fence.

unvote, vote:Feysal

Feysal is a moron for absolutely making sure that his vote cannot be analyzed at all.

And scum don't like to be analyzed.

Vote: Feysal

[chesskid3]

Unvote

Vote: Feysal

I am down with this wagon

[Bunnylover]

Vote Chesskid3

He is bandwagoning, not even trying to hide it.
Also I usually find the third person on a wagon to be more suspicious then the others on the wagon (don't know why).
The two other people at least had reason to vote the person.

[chesskid3]

Lol 3rd vote on a wagon omg scumz?
Seriously there are 20 people alive current, which makes 11 to lynch. Something about Feysal being at L-8 bothering you?

[vezokpiraka]

vote chesskid

This is the scum wagon.

[Feysal]

Feysal is a moron for absolutely making sure that his vote cannot be analyzed at all.

Random votes are by definition random. How do you expect to analyze something that is random?

So, I was voted for not posting a random vote, and when I did, I got more votes. Make up your minds, will you?

[Toon Fighter]

unvote, vote: Feysal

. Lynching night would be helpful, but lynching someone who prefers to keep night the way it is is even better.

[Tasky]

UNVOTE: VOTE: chesskid

more than one wagon is always good.

[Bunnylover]

Lol 3rd vote on a wagon omg scumz?
Seriously there are 20 people alive current, which makes 11 to lynch. Something about Feysal being at L-8 bothering you?

See how he ignores the part about the bandwagoning. Thats the reason I am voting for you.
The 3rd part is just my personal reason.

[FrozenMirror]

Yeah, Helghast is probably scum. Textbook call to action play.

But, unvote, vote: Night

I don't really like this at all. Weapons feels like he has a decent target to scum hunt and pressure, but he actively chooses not to. In lynching night, we lose a lynch and give scum a free night kill. Then we don't really have much of any advantage to us. Deciding against attacking a scummy looking player and instead trying to "break the game" seems much more motivated by scum mindsets than town. This is comparable to saying "Helghast is probably scum. Vote no lynch."

I also find how chess just jumped on a wagon for no apparent reason scummy. This prolonged RVS hasn't helped town at all, and voting without a case, or just completely piggybacking doesn't get us anywhere except putting suspicion on you.

The problem isn't that you put someone to L-8, the problem is that you haven't actually contributed anything to this game.

more than one wagon is always good.

You nervous that the one on Feysal is going to go somewhere?

Unvote, vote WeaponsOfMassConstruction

for ignoring a scum suspect to do something pointless.

[Tasky]

more than one wagon is always good.

You nervous that the one on Feysal is going to go somewhere?

I do not care about what happens to that wagon at long as it doesn't go to a lynch this early.
I only think bandwagoning creates information, and two competing wagons usually do this even more, because you don't have only the options {get on bandwagon, not get on bandwagon} but you have {get on bandwagon one, get on bandwagon two, get on no bandwagon} and therefore there is more to analyze later.

[Kitoari]

Feysal is a moron for absolutely making sure that his vote cannot be analyzed at all.

Random votes are by definition random. How do you expect to analyze something that is random?

So, I was voted for not posting a random vote, and when I did, I got more votes. Make up your minds, will you?

"Random" votes can be analyzed occasionally, but saying you used a die assures everyone that your vote is 100% meaningless.

That being said, chesskid is a good alternative lynch. I'd consider it if suddenly feysal became WORST LYNCH EVER for some reason.

[chesskid3]

Feysal is a moron for absolutely making sure that his vote cannot be analyzed at all.

Random votes are by definition random. How do you expect to analyze something that is random?

So, I was voted for not posting a random vote, and when I did, I got more votes. Make up your minds, will you?

"Random" votes can be analyzed occasionally, but saying you used a die assures everyone that your vote is 100% meaningless.

That being said, chesskid is a good alternative lynch. I'd consider it if suddenly feysal became WORST LYNCH EVER for some reason.

lol k bro. Apples are red. that being said, there are nukes in Iraq ZOMGWTFHAXOR

[IH]

Well, I'm sticking with the feysal wagon, because this is to convenient of a distraction.

Some things to think about later.

If Feysal is scum, I'm going to probably go after Bunny next

Vote Chesskid3
He is bandwagoning, not even trying to hide it.
Also I usually find the third person on a wagon to be more suspicious then the others on the wagon (don't know why).
The two other people at least had reason to vote the person.

See, to easy of a distraction.

If Chess does turn out to be scum later, that also means it's time to look at

UNVOTE: VOTE: chesskid

more than one wagon is always good.

Way to easy of a vote.

Got other things to say. Not right now.

[Tasky]

we are in (or just out of) RVS. don't forget that in this stage it is much more likely to have a wagon on a townie than on scum.

stop talking about lynching already. we are wagoning more or less at random trying to see something that can be analyzed later.

the first day (or maybe only the first week or two) consists of mostly spam. only later the spam starts to be replaced by real content. talking about lynching already turns lynching scum into lynching randomly with the randomness tilted a little against town (as scum aren't voting totally randomly).

[FrozenMirror]

I only think bandwagoning creates information, and two competing wagons usually do this even more, because you don't have only the options {get on bandwagon, not get on bandwagon} but you have {get on bandwagon one, get on bandwagon two, get on no bandwagon} and therefore there is more to analyze later.

While I agree to an extent, the amount of information early bandwagons gives us later is pretty minimal. Personally I prefer to find scum now, instead of hunt for information that might be marginally helpful down the line. That being said, more info is pro-town.

That being said, chesskid is a good alternative lynch. I'd consider it if suddenly feysal became WORST LYNCH EVER for some reason.

You're already throwing around the word lynch? We're barely out of the RVS. I don't like this mindset at all.

stop talking about lynching already. we are wagoning more or less at random trying to see something that can be analyzed later.

Ninja'd.

[Kitoari]

Feysal is a moron for absolutely making sure that his vote cannot be analyzed at all.

Random votes are by definition random. How do you expect to analyze something that is random?

So, I was voted for not posting a random vote, and when I did, I got more votes. Make up your minds, will you?

"Random" votes can be analyzed occasionally, but saying you used a die assures everyone that your vote is 100% meaningless.

That being said, chesskid is a good alternative lynch. I'd consider it if suddenly feysal became WORST LYNCH EVER for some reason.

lol k bro. Apples are red. that being said, there are nukes in Iraq ZOMGWTFHAXOR

The funny thing is that apples can be green and the second half of this is BS.

we are in (or just out of) RVS. don't forget that in this stage it is much more likely to have a wagon on a townie than on scum.

stop talking about lynching already. we are wagoning more or less at random trying to see something that can be analyzed later.

the first day (or maybe only the first week or two) consists of mostly spam. only later the spam starts to be replaced by real content. talking about lynching already turns lynching scum into lynching randomly with the randomness tilted a little against town (as scum aren't voting totally randomly).

Point taken.

[IH]

we are in (or just out of) RVS. don't forget that in this stage it is much more likely to have a wagon on a townie than on scum.

stop talking about lynching already. we are wagoning more or less at random trying to see something that can be analyzed later.

the first day (or maybe only the first week or two) consists of mostly spam. only later the spam starts to be replaced by real content. talking about lynching already turns lynching scum into lynching randomly with the randomness tilted a little against town (as scum aren't voting totally randomly).

fos

I don't like this post at all. You're limiting the information by telling everyone to be cautious
To be honest I don't know if you're being unintentionally anti town, or if you're trying to warn buddies, but whatever it is I don't really like it.

[Bunnylover]

IH what makes my vote to easy of distraction?