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Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:30 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
The Mina I've grown to adore overthinks everything. I think that's why I like her. The massive overthinking. It pleases me as much as fruit.

Overthinking isn't a scum tell. It's a
Mina
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Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:41 pm

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Day 1 Vote Count

Andrius ( 1 )
Fishythefish,
(L - 9 )

populartajo ( 3 )
DrippingGoofball,
Andrius, hitogoroshi,
(L - 7 )

hitogoroshi ( 0 )
(L - 10 )

nopointinactingup ( 1 ) SpyreX,
(L - 9 )

SpyreX ( 2 ) Mina, Feysal,
(L - 8 )

Equinox ( 0 )
(L - 10 )

farside22 ( 0 )
(L - 10 )

Feysal ( 0 )
(L - 10 )

Mina ( 0 )
(L - 10 )

Corvuus ( 3 ) Lady Lambdadelta,
Nobody Special,
Benmage,
(L - 7 )

Benmage ( 0 )
(L - 10 )

DeathRowKitty ( 5 ) populartajo, Jack, nopointinactingup, Equinox, farside22,
(L - 5 )

Jack ( 2 ) Corvuus, DTMaster
(L - 8 )

Lady Lambdadelta ( 0 )
(L - 10 )

DTMaster ( 1 ) DeathRowKitty,
(L - 9 )

Not Voting ( 0 )
(L - 9 )

Total Votes ( 18 )

Deadline: February 19th at 17:59 EDT
With 18 able to vote, 10 needed to lynch.
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Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:08 pm

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You know, if all of the DGB group jumped to DRK we'd have a near-lynch.
Spyscum can be dealt with later, just like tajoscum.
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Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:10 pm

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DRK may happen.

Before that happens you and our queen need to flat tell me I'm insane though.
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Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:21 pm

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You're insane. :P
That good? xD
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Post Post #730 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:29 pm

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SpyreX is all by his lonesome on that wagon. No wonder he's insane.
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Post Post #731 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:30 pm

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Thats been me all game but much like the 'SpyreX is scum for *chirp*' I can't get anyone to SAY whether I've lost my mind or not in the clear terms.

It's making me crazier and soon it'll be me talking to myself
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Post Post #732 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:33 pm

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Spy's going to have to create a "hydra" account to hide his talking-to-himself syndrome. :P

But seriously, DRK first.
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Post Post #733 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:34 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Thats been me all game but much like the 'SpyreX is scum for *chirp*' I can't get anyone to SAY whether I've lost my mind or not in the clear terms.

It's making me crazier and soon it'll be me talking to myself
When all you do is make 2 line comments it makes it difficult to put into words the scummy feel that comes from it.
For someone complaining about gut feel you seem to use that yourself.
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Post Post #734 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:45 pm

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Except its not JUST gut and *gasp* its based on this game not some mystical force off evil.

Sup pot and kettle how's it going?

(ohh SNAP three lines)
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Post Post #735 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:20 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Except its not JUST gut and *gasp* its based on this game not some mystical force off evil.

Sup pot and kettle how's it going?

(ohh SNAP three lines)
Then there is SpreX who is all about saying this person is town, that person is town. Oh wait someone voted me gasp their scum for not making a case.
What was your scum suspect before? Oh right Me=Weird
Let look at the reason's there
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That said the Jack-move doesn't bother me.

Vote: Me=Weird


This does. For now.
Wow, that's a whole lot of brilliance there. :roll:

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Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:24 pm

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Yes, and there was no reasons ever.

I mean, I can get out the diagrams and spend a thousand words to explain what is there. Or, vote it and go. And, even last page to someone who I've got that itch over answer when they ask like a normal.

And those little snipes are awesome and all but where's the rub? Me saying people are town and saying people are scum? OHH THE SHOCK AND HORROR.

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Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:26 pm

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SpyreX wrote:Yes, and there was no reasons ever.

I mean, I can get out the diagrams and spend a thousand words to explain what is there. Or, vote it and go. And, even last page to someone who I've got that itch over answer when they ask like a normal.

And those little snipes are awesome and all but where's the rub? Me saying people are town and saying people are scum? OHH THE SHOCK AND HORROR.
Your scum suspects thus far are....me=weird and mina, with a I would vote for DRK.
Reasons are?
?
?
?
Lets see mina not giving a good case or reasoning but based on meta means she's scummy? This has nothing to do with the fact she is voting you does it?
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Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:28 pm

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Before I get all rage mode I'll go ahead and clarify that you are saying my reasons for m=r and mina are ?.

Because, well, time saving and all that.
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Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:34 pm

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SpyreX, you're sitting on a wagon that nobody is supporting (and DrippingGoofball will deflate), and you're not opposing the current wagon. You've got to have
some
reason for that.
In post 426, SpyreX wrote:NOW, you'll notice that DRK isn't there. Because that's town. Town fire-fluff but town.
Do you still hold this position?
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Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:42 pm

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The current wagon?

I've got town feelings BUT if it comes to it its much better than tajo.
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Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:47 pm

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If neither of the two top wagons please you, then convince us. What do you think of DrippingGoofball's 702?
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Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:49 pm

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Andrius and drk are still the two scummiest people.
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Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:52 pm

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What part?

DGB is so redonk town it obviously happened.

That doesn't change a last minute puppy dog eyes changing anything.
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Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:43 pm

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Yo people,
Got half the game and
*yawning*
continuing soon

So far, I got Andy, Zang as scum probablies, Fish > NS as scum godies, TNM vs Jack = town-town, Equi caught as town and Feysal town probablies
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Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:05 pm

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I've given a piece of information to someone special via NS via QT. Before the lynch hits I would like for him to claim my special word and the target I sent to them as a change to the message I sent in QT assuming NS is scumbag. I've taken to account NS-scum, thus I reveal in thread now that I've claimed to NS and claimed my role to the specific person.
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Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:11 pm

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Oh you don't need to say the special word anymore, I just missed that (going off some information I gathered earlier). However Jack's concerns discussed via NS via QT should be revealed tonight. Should I die I would like NS to quote the main components of my QT to everyone under him and post it in thread. It'll be revealed what my uber awesome plan is :3 :3 :3
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Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:34 pm

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1. Everyone should take my lead and do inter player talking via their Gods to first determine scum gods, and secondly to pass information along. However Andrus was the original proprietor, and I support this endeavor. It doesn't have to be role info, just thoughts, and such. I find that mason linkage to be more town motivated then scum motivated.

2. I also think Jack is town due to QT talk. I'll claim Day 2 or NS will claim for me day 2. The jist of the argument is: Jack corrected me logically that NS is unconfirmed and can modify information as he sees fit if I pass it along the NS wire. NS passed this onto me. NS actually passed this on to me. New info FTW. :p

3. You know
I don't understand the Tajo wagon
. DGB's question is theory craft, not scum hunting. Anyone can argue for that question. It reminds me of Pom's theory crafting questions as scum. All fluff. Lots of debate. No actual discussion. I think the entire thing is super weak (as of page 20).
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Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:35 pm

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Also my earlier stuffs:

1. I've been mulling over the whole Jack/Theman debate, the everyone is town in this debacule is kind of throwing me off. I find myself agreeing with this assessment right here because I could see scum-Jack caving in to the whole "yes I gambited lulz" defences. But he didn't, and is sticking to the guns. I wouldn't mind a vig resolution in this angle, but there needs to be more info outside the Jack vs NS/Theman debate. It's stalling out.

Plus in Feysal's analysis
there's very little wagonining analysis going on
on Jacks end or anyone for that matter for the gambit to be sucessful. I'm a bit saddened at the fact that the Pro-Jack/Jack people aren't doing this. Gut sez: theory noise is being produced and we might have a scum buddying wtih Jack (assuming Jack-town).

2. tajo has very weak answers to the accusations. I wouldn't mind a shot that direction.

3. I can
confirm that the QT website autosigns your name from your last login if you choose that option. If I'm not at home I do have to type my name. But I made a QT account so it autosigns me as DTMaster
. It makes even more sense, contrary to page 10 if Anonscum was auto signed at home and he typed "tajo" at work (not the other way around unless he has a computer to use at work and lots of down time). Any of these attacks are quite arbutrary.

4. Huh, this post while awesome in town reads also has a noisy question by Mina. We know that the distrubution of the evil priests are randomly set (therefore we could have anywhere from all of the scum being in one priest hood to all seperated out). LLD did the maths for a specific set, but if its all RNG that means we
can't establish a pattern
based on scum flips and what group they are in.

Likewise, we know that scum is in 1 faction (I think, the whole one god and evil priest flavour suggests so) and guestimate that out of 15 players we are probably dealing with 3-4 evil priests as gods are unlynchable. We must account though that while the gods have voting power, we need to take out the priest to endgame the scum faction.

In terms of vote control that means scum always has +1, and town always has +2 for votes. In terms of factional wins, in order to balance this (because technically town always has the majority vote or equal to scum) the number priests is the threshold number rather then the number of votes (otherwise scum couldn't win by vote threshold if 1 member gets lynched).
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Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:58 pm

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1. Theman Can you be more specific outside of gut?

2. To clarify something: I find Tajo's initial response to be weak in regards to the name thing. However! He's improved a lot since that initial read due to his
motive hunting
. I find that to be quite indicative of town. Here and here are clear arguments, DGB scum motives, questioning of DGB town motives of methods, and his own reasoning.

Also this idea here is WRONG because TOWN PLAYERS ALSO HAS A SENSE OF SURVIVAL. Particularity, PRs display more defensiveness due to the fact that they internally DON'T WANT TO BE LYNCHED or NKED. Town PRs, while have the number advantage if they do die, also COULD BE RELUCTANT TO DIE. Hence if DGB-scum is there, she can see WHO THE PRS ARE WITHIN HER PRIESTHOOD. So that issue about people wanting to live, yeah it applies to TOWN AS WELL. Town's are more likely to be RISKIER, but THEY STILL WANT TO LYNCH THEIR SCUM TARGET and NOT BE LYNCHED. /caps defence

Though, due to the debate, I'm getting the town on town vibe. However, arguing with DGB doesn't SOLVE A THING. Tajo should be more focused on priests, not gods.

3. I read Andrus' post. I don't mind since it's good, but his over pro-DGB stance is suuuuppppppppeeer sketchy. I'd at least keep some suspicion on DGB. You know. The whole "I know DGB is town thing" reads as "I know DGB is town is because I know who the scumz are". I'd still consider shooting you and suffer through DGB RAGE INDUCED VENGEANCE just to quell this paranoia.

In all of this if Tajo flips town (which I feel like it) I would re-examine my reads. Especially I would re-examine Feysal since I'm getting some weird scum vibes that direction. I'll do an Iso reread to make sure. (I'd also consider the KittyKat DRK)

4. DGB it's possible, quite possible that due to the back and forth that DGB/Tajo became a tunnel fest of frustration. If we're talking about scum strategics, I'm pretty sure that Tajo-scum has better things to do other then rage an all out God war when he knows he can't even lynch the DGB. :s.

5. Fishy is sitting on the fence about tajo here This is awful analysis of Tajo that both supports him and supports the lynch.
Fishy wrote:On the tajo-me link; again,
I can see where DGB is coming from, but I disagree with the sense of the conclusion. I suppose this is one to argue if and when tajo flips scum.
See bold. Tajo is not the droid we are looking for. I suggest a trio of Feysal and DRK. Other good slots are Crymeariver.

Break time. Fishy's post discredits this wagon by a ton. I'd argue that the hyper-aggressiveness is blinding the town.



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