Undertale Mafia: Friends & Corpses [GAME OVER]

Accountant · Post Post #7125 (ISO) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:30 pm

Why would scum Maxous block SirCakez? Does SirCakez have a powerful role? Also, why would scum Maxous simply block Nahdia?

Hmmm, wait, Maxous could've been the scum redirector who redirected Nahdia onto SirCakez. But in that case I think he'd claim to have blocked SirCakez, thus "confirming" himself as the roleblocker while Nahdia looks bad for the person she claimed to roleblocked not being roleblocked.

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Math, I now understand what people claim to have happened that night. Now tell me your theory as to what actually happened that night, along with scum motivations for whatever thing scum did.

Maxous · Post Post #7126 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:34 am

we've been over this: Nahdia blocked me N4 so it's impossible i had anything to do with Sir Cakez.

and yeah, I have no reason to block SC in the first place..

I blocked Shiro because i thought he was scum.
I blocked Nahdia because I didn't want them blocking Andrius' "vigs"
I blokced Not Chara because I thought they were scummy.
I blocked Creature because i thought he was scummy

These were all pro-town blocks while a block on Cakez obv-town certainly wouldn't be

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put it this way: if i'm a scum roleblocker and Narna is SO town with a cop role, why has Narna not been blocked then?

Accountant · Post Post #7127 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:36 am

The running theory is that you be a scum redirector

Maxous · Post Post #7128 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:39 am

Natural Action resolution wrote:Copy
Hide
Bus
Block
Redirect
Protect
Miscellaneous
Kill
Recruit
Inspect

As you see, Block is higher priority then re-direction.
Nahdia blocked me so re-direction would of been impossible

I had nothing to do with Cakez, i blocked Creature. that's it.

MathBlade · Post Post #7129 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:04 am

In post 7127, Accountant wrote:The running theory is that you be a scum redirector

The running theory is scum have a redirector and it isn't Maxous or Nahdia.

MathBlade · Post Post #7130 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:09 am

In post 7125, Accountant wrote:Why would scum Maxous block SirCakez? Does SirCakez have a powerful role? Also, why would scum Maxous simply block Nahdia?

Hmmm, wait, Maxous could've been the scum redirector who redirected Nahdia onto SirCakez. But in that case I think he'd claim to have blocked SirCakez, thus "confirming" himself as the roleblocker while Nahdia looks bad for the person she claimed to roleblocked not being roleblocked.

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Math, I now understand what people claim to have happened that night. Now tell me your theory as to what actually happened that night, along with scum motivations for whatever thing scum did.

One question at a time: On N4 Nahdia would be redirected to SirCakez. It is the only way SirCakez is blocked due to NAR. One of Nahdia/Maxous is a liar. Your question assumes both are telling the truth.

About SirCakez role no clue however he can be blocked and that question seems fishy.

Scum Maxous wouldn't have blocked Nahdia. Scum Maxous would be lying about it.

MathBlade · Post Post #7131 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:12 am

In post 7126, Maxous wrote:we've been over this: Nahdia blocked me N4 so it's impossible i had anything to do with Sir Cakez.

and yeah, I have no reason to block SC in the first place..

I blocked Shiro because i thought he was scum.
I blocked Nahdia because I didn't want them blocking Andrius' "vigs"
I blokced Not Chara because I thought they were scummy.
I blocked Creature because i thought he was scummy

These were all pro-town blocks while a block on Cakez obv-town certainly wouldn't be

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put it this way: if i'm a scum roleblocker and Narna is SO town with a cop role, why has Narna not been blocked then?

Neither you or Nahdia have a reason yet SirCakez was blocked. Explain that and Nahdia still town. I can explain it with one of you being scum but there is no way you both are town.

The reason Narna wouldn't be blocked is that Narna is the mislynch candidate today more than likely. Giving Narna a sense of credibility would be bad. Plus there is also SirCakez role which is unknown.

MathBlade · Post Post #7132 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:43 am

My theory is Maxous is a liar and Nahdia has been redirected the entire time.
If Maxous was telling the truth about blocking Nahdia D2 no one would have been blocked but Gio was. Therefore either Maxous is a liar in that he blocked Nahdia or Nahdia is not a Jailkeeper.
Repeat for N4.
Based on how Nahdia has always claimed their results were messed with a Maxous is the scum since scum have 0 reason to switch.
This also matches all night actions assuming Not Chara is actually not blocked.

MathBlade · Post Post #7133 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:53 am

@Mod I think we need prods on like a ton of people

PeregrineV · Post Post #7134 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:21 am

Here now. Reading up and stuff.

Accountant · Post Post #7135 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:00 am

Then who did Maxous actually block the night his buddy redirected Nahdia onto Cakez?

MathBlade · Post Post #7136 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:08 am

In post 7135, Accountant wrote:Then who did Maxous actually block the night his buddy redirected Nahdia onto Cakez?

Nobody because of NAR. His claim to block me is a fishing expedition so I wouldn't answer whether I can or not.

MathBlade · Post Post #7137 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:08 am

Once Maxous is an identified liar we can't assume he is even a roleblocker. *smacky playfully*

Accountant · Post Post #7138 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:09 am

Okay lets just lynch max

MathBlade · Post Post #7139 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:14 am

Yep. Agreed. Maxous needs rope so hard.

Nahdia · Post Post #7140 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:15 am

fine whatever
VOTE: maxous

MathBlade · Post Post #7141 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:05 am

That is three. 5 more people! Let's get scums!

Creeps20 · Post Post #7142 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:18 am

To trust or not to trust. That is the question.

One second. I shall do a quick skim of their posts

Creeps20 · Post Post #7143 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:25 am

In post 7128, Maxous wrote:
Natural Action resolution wrote:Copy
Hide
Bus
Block
Redirect
Protect
Miscellaneous
Kill
Recruit
Inspect
As you see, Block is higher priority then re-direction.
Nahdia blocked me so re-direction would of been impossible

I had nothing to do with Cakez, i blocked Creature. that's it.

Where did you get this list? It is not in the opening segments

MathBlade · Post Post #7144 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:30 am

In post 7143, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 7128, Maxous wrote:
Natural Action resolution wrote:Copy
Hide
Bus
Block
Redirect
Protect
Miscellaneous
Kill
Recruit
Inspect
As you see, Block is higher priority then re-direction.
Nahdia blocked me so re-direction would of been impossible

I had nothing to do with Cakez, i blocked Creature. that's it.
Where did you get this list? It is not in the opening segments

It is in the NAR Creeps. It is what the site as a whole uses: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... Resolution

Creeps20 · Post Post #7145 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:22 am

In post 7144, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7143, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 7128, Maxous wrote:
Natural Action resolution wrote:Copy
Hide
Bus
Block
Redirect
Protect
Miscellaneous
Kill
Recruit
Inspect
As you see, Block is higher priority then re-direction.
Nahdia blocked me so re-direction would of been impossible

I had nothing to do with Cakez, i blocked Creature. that's it.
Where did you get this list? It is not in the opening segments

It is in the NAR Creeps. It is what the site as a whole uses: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... Resolution

Huh. An ever knew that existed.

PeregrineV · Post Post #7146 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:30 am

In post 7132, MathBlade wrote:My theory is Maxous is a liar and Nahdia has been redirected the entire time.
If Maxous was telling the truth about blocking Nahdia D2 no one would have been blocked but Gio was. Therefore either Maxous is a liar in that he blocked Nahdia or Nahdia is not a Jailkeeper.
Repeat for N4.
Based on how Nahdia has always claimed their results were messed with a Maxous is the scum since scum have 0 reason to switch.
This also matches all night actions assuming Not Chara is actually not blocked.

How do you know Gio was blocked night2?

MathBlade · Post Post #7147 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:40 am

In post 7146, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 7132, MathBlade wrote:My theory is Maxous is a liar and Nahdia has been redirected the entire time.
If Maxous was telling the truth about blocking Nahdia D2 no one would have been blocked but Gio was. Therefore either Maxous is a liar in that he blocked Nahdia or Nahdia is not a Jailkeeper.
Repeat for N4.
Based on how Nahdia has always claimed their results were messed with a Maxous is the scum since scum have 0 reason to switch.
This also matches all night actions assuming Not Chara is actually not blocked.
How do you know Gio was blocked night2?

Gio said his results were flaky.

MathBlade · Post Post #7148 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:42 am

In post 6611, Giovanni il Pellegrino wrote:
In post 6605, Not Chara wrote:Giovanni: ask Skullduggery about your possibly being roleblocked. if you're an investigative, you should know whether you were roleblocked, or if your target simply did nothing.
Again, I asked Skullduggery about the result I got when I targeted Maxous on night 2 the moment I received the result and I was replied that the answer I received is intentionaly not clear. It could mean that he didn't target anyone or that my action failed.

Since Maxous (who claims roleblocker) claimed to have targeted Nahdia Night 2, and massive (the person who Nahdia claimed to have jailed during Night 2) claimed that he performed his night action normally despite Nahdia targetting him, then it is more logical that someone targeted me that made me lose my target (re-targeting, blocking, I don't know).

He has said it a few times but here is an example

PeregrineV · Post Post #7149 (ISO) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:53 am

In post 7148, MathBlade wrote:
In post 6611, Giovanni il Pellegrino wrote:
In post 6605, Not Chara wrote:Giovanni: ask Skullduggery about your possibly being roleblocked. if you're an investigative, you should know whether you were roleblocked, or if your target simply did nothing.
Again, I asked Skullduggery about the result I got when I targeted Maxous on night 2 the moment I received the result and I was replied that the answer I received is intentionaly not clear. It could mean that he didn't target anyone or that my action failed.

Since Maxous (who claims roleblocker) claimed to have targeted Nahdia Night 2, and massive (the person who Nahdia claimed to have jailed during Night 2) claimed that he performed his night action normally despite Nahdia targetting him, then it is more logical that someone targeted me that made me lose my target (re-targeting, blocking, I don't know).
He has said it a few times but here is an example

If Maxous was blocked, then he would not have gone anywhere.
If Giovanni was blocked, then he would have no result.
If Skull said- "I cannot tell you anything about night 2 at this time." then you could say there is some ambiguity.