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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:40 pm

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BabyJesus wrote:
Vaughn wrote:Because you claimed townie, and inhim has claimed watcher.

Well, on the chance that you're not lieing, lynching a townie won't hurt us as much as lynching a watcher.

But i suppose we're in a situation where either of you could be scum.
1) this late in game, we don;t lynch based on who has the "more powerful claim". We try and find scum.
2) InHim's claim is VERY suspect. Completely unprovable, as he has not delivered any scum yet. Convenient that no one he has watched has died.
i also find it convenient that vaughn hasn't correctly protected anyone yet

maybe there is not doc, but there is the protection thing from the game mechanics

that would suck
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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:54 pm

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Vaughn wrote:Because you claimed townie, and inhim has claimed watcher.

Well, on the chance that you're not lieing, lynching a townie won't hurt us as much as lynching a watcher.

But i suppose we're in a situation where either of you could be scum.
1) this late in game, we don;t lynch based on who has the "more powerful claim". We try and find scum.
2) InHim's claim is VERY suspect. Completely unprovable, as he has not delivered any scum yet. Convenient that no one he has watched has died.
i also find it convenient that vaughn hasn't correctly protected anyone yet

maybe there is not doc, but there is the protection thing from the game mechanics

that would suck
I agree...I would not mind lynching Vaughn today, then lynching InHim if Vaughn is indeed doc. Seems odd that they wouldn't have killed him yet though.


Has anyone gotten the "protection" pm today though? I haven't since that last time.
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:57 pm

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Vaughn wrote:Because you claimed townie, and inhim has claimed watcher.

Well, on the chance that you're not lieing, lynching a townie won't hurt us as much as lynching a watcher.

But i suppose we're in a situation where either of you could be scum.
1) this late in game, we don;t lynch based on who has the "more powerful claim". We try and find scum.
2) InHim's claim is VERY suspect. Completely unprovable, as he has not delivered any scum yet. Convenient that no one he has watched has died.
i also find it convenient that vaughn hasn't correctly protected anyone yet

maybe there is not doc, but there is the protection thing from the game mechanics

that would suck
I agree...I would not mind lynching Vaughn today, then lynching InHim if Vaughn is indeed doc. Seems odd that they wouldn't have killed him yet though.


Has anyone gotten the "protection" pm today though? I haven't since that last time.
me either, but maybe we have to constantly take it
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 4:59 pm

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or we lynched the scum offering it...
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:47 pm

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I've already stated that I've been protecting Nightcow every night.

As long as Nightcow is alive, we've got this game in the bag.

Lynching me would allow scum to kill off nightcow, and then whoever has the most money (BJ) has full control in the L-o-L situation.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:54 am

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Vaughn wrote:I've already stated that I've been protecting Nightcow every night.

As long as Nightcow is alive, we've got this game in the bag.

Lynching me would allow scum to kill off nightcow, and then whoever has the most money (BJ) has full control in the L-o-L situation.
see, from my point of view, that may be a better scenario, since I know I am pro-town, then letting a possible doc-fake go to end game even though scum never killed him...

still, I am on inhim at themoment, as I think his "tracker" is just a poor fake.
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:54 am

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Vaughn wrote:As long as Nightcow is alive, we've got this game in the bag.
no, cuz tomorrow it will be between you and bj
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:06 pm

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BabyJesus wrote:or we lynched the scum offering it...
hmm...I guess not, I just got a nightkill offer again....they want 500 this time...
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:23 pm

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BabyJesus wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:or we lynched the scum offering it...
hmm...I guess not, I just got a nightkill offer again....they want 500 this time...
o rly?
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 4:42 pm

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Fritzler wrote:
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BabyJesus wrote:or we lynched the scum offering it...
hmm...I guess not, I just got a nightkill offer again....they want 500 this time...
o rly?
rly
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:00 pm

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BabyJesus wrote:
Fritzler wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:or we lynched the scum offering it...
hmm...I guess not, I just got a nightkill offer again....they want 500 this time...
o rly?
rly
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:01 pm

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I think the Town should force BabyJ to pay all his money on me, or be lynched instead.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2006 5:58 pm

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I like that idea.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:56 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:I think the Town should force BabyJ to pay all his money on me, or be lynched instead.
I'm not sure scum like yourself should be telling the town what to do...

Please elaborate on why you think I am scum. tia!
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:59 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:I think the Town should force BabyJ to pay all his money on me, or be lynched instead.
I have a better idea, now that I think about it. I will accept the "dark figure's" offer, and pay him 500 to not be night killed.
This does several things.
1) My money disappears, so you know I really was offered this
2) Confirms it was not me offering, and May help narrow down who is makingthose offers. Still undecided if I think it is scum or not though.
3) We should keep an eye out to see if anyone's cash goes up unexplicably.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:16 am

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Due to a game action, BabyJesus has lost $500.

Cash Count:

4042 Nightcow
407 Vaughn
238 Fritzler
50 BabyJesus
0 inHimshallibe

Payment Count

150 inHimshallibe (BabyJesus 50,100)
50 BabyJesus (inHimshallibe 50)

Unless there is a lead change, deadline is later today, about 7 hours from this post.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:31 am

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interesting...so it did not add to anyone's total. yet. So it is either a game mechanic, or it adds in the morning? Or the money just vanishes.
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:08 am

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Sorry, I've been lazy. I'm not sure what to do. I've never reached a toght endgame before.

So If you'll forgive me, I think we need another 3 days.

pay £105:BJ


Mod edit: This is a lead change. Also, I'm assuming that one pound equals a dollar because I expect that is what Nightcow meant and I don't feel like looking up exchange rates.
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:10 am

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Pay £10: Inhim


And that should say "tight" above. Not "toght". Stoopid forgetting to preview.

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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:19 am

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OK, so we have the protection offer. We need a list of people who have been offered.

Fritz? <-I forget
Pooky
BJ
TSS

OK 2 confirmed by death townies, 1 probably townie and 1 that we're looking at today.

Is this a list of townies, or is there a goon in there (BJ) trying to fool us? That is the ultimate issue for today.

Let's take a look at everyone.

Nightcow - Mason. Town.
Fritzler - Commissioner. OK, so if Fritz is mafia would it have made sense to sacrifice Vis. surely he'd have just said "yes, there are 3 cops in the game" and had vis confirmed. Why did vis claim paranoid, when we already had Twomz as paranoid?
Vis wrote:Im cop, either paranoid or insane. I only have guiltys so far.
pooky/fritz/Vaughn/twomz/BabyJesus
Now why not claim naive, so as to be different. It seems a bad claim all round, really.
However, Fritzler's waiting until vis claimed is interesting. Did he know vis would claim cop? Were there no better claims for Vis?
However, just the night before, I'd talked to TSS about how I thought vis was town. We need to see who ran the vis wagon and where the money came from. I can't help feeling that if Fritz was mafia and wanted a mis-lynch instead it would have been quite easy. I was thinking BJ myself. I don't really see why Fritz/vis would sell out vis for minimal gain. As we still had BJ and Inhim as possibles.

So I think fritz is town.

Vaughn - Doc. Why am I still alive? There was one night in this game where everyone else thought I was the last mason. Where was my money Willed?
So if Vaughn was a baddie, they could have killed me off. Vaughn could have claimed to be protecting Pooky. No trouble at all. So why am I alive? Because Vaughn is the doc and the mafia are assuming he will be protecting me? So as far as I am concerned Vaughn is OK.

Now that leaves us with 3 players I believe are town.

We need to look at BJ and Inhim, and take a look at what powers we have.

It may be worth BJ and Inhim preparing full defences.
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:22 am

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Actually there were two nights when I was thought to be the lone mason. When Twomz and Pooky died. Even more reason to accept Vaughn, I feel
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:24 am

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Nightcow, why do you suppose a claimed doc in Vaughn is still alive?
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:33 am

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logicticus wrote:Well, I have made the short list of acting scummy, so I am willing to burn my money in which ever way the town sees fit. Although, BJ and NC will take priority since they are confirmed.

So, I am willing to burn about 150 of my dollars where you guys want.
here's an argument for my innocence...

Rereading the posts of the 3 dead scum. Two fo them (CES and Vis) both either paid lots of money on me, or did posts casting suspcicion on me. the other one forgot who was "confirmed" and thought it was me. It is HIGHLY unlikely scum would have accidentally thought a fellow scum was confirmed, since he would have known that was not possible.

Also of note, I didn't see CES or Vis mentioning or suspecting InHim a whole lot.

Third, I pretty much singlehandedly spearheaded the logiticus and Vis lynches.

If after that, you still think I am more likely scum then the "watcher" InHim, I really can't say much, can I?
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 5:47 am

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i agree
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2006 6:00 am

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BabyJesus wrote:Nightcow, why do you suppose a claimed doc in Vaughn is still alive?
Because unlike in most games priotecting cops etc is less important than protecting the money (me)

So in order the mafia have offed...

pablito, cop, shot night 1 <---Luck

Tamuz, townie, shot night 2 <--- I'd have doc protection. CES certainly wanted to cast suspicion on the doc. Wouldn't surprise me if they wanted to keep him well alive for a while at least

help im a bug, mason, shot night 3 <---confirmed, and I'd be getting doc protect. Probably when the mafia tried the "is Pooky GF" trick.

Twomz, cop, shot night 4 <---Just in case he's insane. (Helps Fritzler's case. As if Fritz was mafia with cop knowledge they'd leave him alone. He didn't do much tin the game except get Dragyn killed.

PookyTheMagicalBear, townie, shot night 5 <---casting the "is Pooky GF" suspicion failed, so they offed him as confirmed.

the silent speaker, mason, shot night 6 <--- The last role confirmed

OK, so there really hasn't been any need for the mafia to kill the doc or me. We were essentially roleblocking ourselves to protect the money, as it were. The mafia would just off the most confirmed. It will be interesting to see who dies tonight. I assume if Vaughn is indeed townie doc, I won't be dying. The numbers in this game are such that the last 3 players could well be me, Vaughn + Inhim or Me, Vaughn + BJ. There hasn't been the mathematical need to make all the town's known power roles dead. If you see what I mean.

I would basically be the arbiter of the game's end. Do I trust a not-dead doc or an unconfirmed other. Tricky.

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