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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 4:27 am

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I don't think that post will make any mason reveal his identity. I have tried to word it as carefully as possible.

I think you have the highest potential of being SK, partly because of what I said above. I don't want to reveal my possible other candidates at this point.
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:04 am

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dahill1 wrote:
Max wrote:I have been saying that I would agree with an ABR lynch. It's now just a matter of time until the end of his life.
if you agree with an ABR lynch, then you should probably vote for him
I will however as we have seen quick lynches hurt town not help them.

Besides if samruc really is mason fishing it creates a bout of WIFOM:

If he is a mason he would try and fish for the mason making the SK target someone else
If he is a townie he is trying to make the SK target him
If he is the SK he is trying to get the mason to claim
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 5:36 am

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Wifom is good, probably even necessary, at this point.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:54 am

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Samruc wrote:I'm not the SK.

Seriously. While it's not conclusive evidence, I do have an argument for not being SK.

I don't want to use it yet though.

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I've finally had a good reread. Neko is the most likely SK for me. There is plenty of proof that he is not a mason:

1) Look at Guardian's votes, Ooba's vote etc. Very unconsistent with how they treated other masons.
2) There is no living player that he could be paired with, if you look at it closely.
3) Several scum voted him too. This could mean nothing, but I'm pretty sure finding the SK was a distinct goal for scum too.

I know that there are three non-masons alive, which means lynching all of them won't be enough, but I'm convinced enough of this lynch.

Vote: Neko
this post made me way more suspicious of you not just because of the WIFOM (as you said that could be helpful) but because you are listing reasons why neko isn't a mason. at this point in the game, or at any point for that matter, it is not helpful to speculate who we think is a townie or mason. that information can only help the SK even more.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 9:18 am

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I'll have to take a closer look at Neko.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:06 am

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dahill1 wrote:at this point in the game, or at any point for that matter, it is not helpful to speculate who we think is a townie or mason. that information can only help the SK even more.
Every vote, heck, every single post is a possible clue to the SK. I'm doing what I can to cloud the issue here. There is a possibility the SK has already lost his risky kill ability, but until we know for sure, we'll have to play around the threat.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:47 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:Max also very scummy.
More than Flameaxe? How about Blazerunner? Have you taken an in-depth look at these players?
Flameaxe has done nothing wrong. Blazerunner has done nothing wrong either, except for your claim that he was "watching" the thread. Even if I did see him online, he is involved in other games in theme park and you have no way of knowing he was watching *this* thread.

The only other person I have to mention is Guardian. He better watch himself.
And then only a few pages later you voted for him, how odd...
ABR wrote:I'd vote Max for personal reasons LOL

Unvote, vote Max
Another odd thing here what are the personal reasons, you risky kill? Your lack of reasoning, your lack of any content?

At the end of the day ABR you have done little but tell the town what to do while doing little of what you say yourself, you have told us to post reasoning for lynches but on your own vote not doing any of that. Do you believe you are above the ranking of all Pro-Town Players?

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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:51 am

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I've provided vast amounts of content and analysis, whereas you have done zip except petty OMGUS.
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:59 am

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Other players read through his stuff, and you will see clearly that he has done one liners except when he is trying to get town lynched.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:03 am

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If you wipe the shit out of your eyes Max, you might notice that my last 20 posts or so have been nothing but content.
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:19 am

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I'll only vote ABR if there is no chance two of the three of you would vote samruc with me. ABR, earlier you said you would refuse to lynch samruc. Is that still the case?

Max, do you think the SK really cares whether town or mafia is lynched?
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:26 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:If you wipe the shit out of your eyes Max, you might notice that my last 20 posts or so have been nothing but content.
Alberts past 20 posts excluding one above:
Yeah.......when I took the time to reconsider these last pages.......plus DG's wild behavior in other games that have just started this week.......Neko would have been the ideal lynch, IMO.
Flameaxe is always online but never posts here.
Vote: Flameaxe

Lurking for the win.....how pathetic
He's online right now, posting with me on other threads. Flameaaaxe...oooooh Flameaaaaaaaaaaxe ?
Come out and plaaaaaaaaaaay
Mmmmmm.......except I'm not trying to lynch him, I'm trying to get him to post. Hence your vote makes little sense to me.
Albert B. Rampage wrote:I've re-read your posts dahill. This stuck out to me:
dahill1 wrote:
Guardian wrote:we are voting flameaxe because as neko said, Flameaxe has contributed literally nothing to the game.
well, that is true...
so to put pressure on him vote: flameaxe
^^ This post is very skummy ^^

context (before dahill voted) :
Guardian in post 210 wrote:vote: Flameaxe

7 more.
ooba in post 211 wrote:vote : Flameaxe

6 more.
neko2086 in post 212 wrote:I agree with this wagon. Flameaxe has contributed hardly anything of substance.

vote: Flameaxe

5 more
Does this look like a pressure wagon to you ? I consider this a massive slip that shows what dahill really wanted to do: pressure mafia into snapping and killing some masons before dying.
^Your only out of last 20 to have any info what so ever
You bandwagonned a player, put him close to lynch but suspiciously claimed that you wanted to "pressure" him.
You are lying. You don't pressure a player with a 4th vote, after 3 consecutive votes on that player saying "5 votes left, 4 votes left".

Don't lie dahill.
unvote, vote dahill
vote flameaxe

gogogo
unvote, vote: flameaxe
Vote: dahill for earlier reasons
bah.....we got 2 lynches left and 7 days......

Present your case against me, let's see it.
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dahill1 wrote:you were pushing heavily towards a DG lynch, who we all thought was scum
but as Guardian pointed "if she was town, you're probably scum".
also you started pretty much all of the bandwagons/bum rushes which wasn't necessarily bad because we lynched a lot of scum, but it's still suspicious because you directed us around.
Guardian and me BOTH directed wagons. And I got all of them right except DG, even though I didn't nail the SK yet.

DG being town has no effect on my alignment. If you have any evidence supporting that claim, please state them.

I'd say Max is the next most suspicious person, followed by Neko but I'm not sure anymore because I thought Neko was mafia and not SK.
I was only after DG on day 3 when DG quicklynched blazerunner for no reason at all (she was scummy as hell), and on day 4 when I wasn't even so sure about her anymore but had to vote because of the deadline.
dahill1 wrote:
but Guardian was a mason...


If only masons would have lead the town then the scum/SK would have picked up on it and killed them.
The very fact that Guardian survived this long proves the point that directing the town is neither a scumtell or a mason-tell.
Plus, I always play by leading the town:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 765#631765
I'll have to take a closer look at Neko.
I've provided vast amounts of content and analysis, whereas you have done zip except petty OMGUS.
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:27 am

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neko2086 wrote:I'll only vote ABR if there is no chance two of the three of you would vote samruc with me. ABR, earlier you said you would refuse to lynch samruc. Is that still the case?

Max, do you think the SK really cares whether town or mafia is lynched?
Yes the scum can take out themselves and Mason yet they can't take out SK
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:28 am

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All those are content. My probing of Flameaxe was legitimate gameplay.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:32 am

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out of the past 20 posts you have not said any content with reasoning e.g.
I'd say Max is the next most suspicious person, followed by Neko but I'm not sure anymore because I thought Neko was mafia and not SK.
Like to elaborate, no of course not lets see another post:
Flameaxe is always online but never posts here.
Vote: Flameaxe
Lurking for the win.....how pathetic
How grateful we are oh ABR how kind of you to point out such obvious lurking.

I could go back when you we're getting DG lynched shall I?
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:42 am

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Max wrote:Since my last proper post I think Flame axe has been lurking, he has to be trying to save himself here.
:roll:
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:44 am

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I had been away I read the game using the player by player to see players who had posted lots/not much.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:47 am

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Sigh....whatever.

Neko, I'd lynch Samruc before myself.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:03 am

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ABR this week we should decide on the people we should lynch today and tommorow. If we say samruc today I want you tommorow, if we lynch you I think we've won.
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:04 am

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Fine.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:16 am

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Albert B. Rampage <- See above
samruc <- His introduction of WIFOM annoyed me, wifom in this game has no use the SK will create the wifom for himself
dahill1 <- He hammered (kind of odd don't you think) However once he'd hammered there was not an immediate SK kill, which leads me to believe neko is not SK
neko2086 <- See above
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:20 am

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See above what!? You didn't post anything.

Leading the town is my natural gameplay, I do this in every game.

You don't have any tangible reason to vote me except your hate for me.
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:48 am

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Max wrote:Albert B. Rampage <- See above
samruc <- His introduction of WIFOM annoyed me, wifom in this game has no use the SK will create the wifom for himself
dahill1 <- He hammered (kind of odd don't you think) However once he'd hammered there was not an immediate SK kill, which leads me to believe neko is not SK
neko2086 <- See above
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i think at that point in the game, if i hadn't hammered no one else probably would have and the deadline was ending very soon. i believe my hammer was justified. as for who we lynch, i say ABR today and then the next day we discuss all of our options before quicklynching anyone.
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:11 am

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dahill1 wrote:we discuss all of our options before quicklynching anyone.
wtf.....
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:21 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
dahill1 wrote:we discuss all of our options before quicklynching anyone.
wtf.....
what?

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