Jaime wrote:
177: Again, I did not think he was town. There is a very big differance between something that is beleivable and actually beleiving it. Stuart claimed bp. I thought that it was a beleivable claim (meaning that it's not some weird thing he probably made up like a secret daycop) but I was not willing to beleive it until he could prove me otherwise. I know that was a very bad post after looking back again and that it does look like a fencesit but whatev, there's nothing I can do about it now.
You probably should have been clearer on that.
Jaime wrote:
319: Flip color? Really? This is a really bad point. Color does not tell someone what faction they belonged to. Mods can use any color they fucking want. For example, If someone died and it said "Hypothetical person (Cop)" in red (as that seems to be the most used scum color) would you think he was scum or a townie? What most people look at (at least me anyway) is thae flavor text and the flip name.
Mod meta. Malt plays Tar games. Tar games explicitly use red and green as base colors and different colors for third parties. And if someone died and it said "Person (Cop)", in red, I'd assume a scum cop.
Jaime wrote:
404: Which is why I put the placeholder vote on Leon. I also look for overall scumminess, not just one scummy thing that they do. Of course if that one scummy thing is big enough I will look at them closely (which I did for Leon and Emile at that point) or vote them if it is rediculously scummy.
We're reaching theory argument at this point. I don't think I can convince you of that being a bad tactic, nor can you convince me it's a good one. I'll accept it for the time being.
Jaime wrote:
430: This is Leons post.
Derp, meant 429
Jaime wrote:
439: I took my vote off because obviously I wasn't helping out the town with it at all and I was possibly hurting the town. Now why would a townie purposefully hurt the town? (Also, this is overall just a reworded summary of what I said in my response because I can't think of any other way to explain it better. If you still don't understand I'm sure I could think of something).
WIFOM. I don't see how your vote was at all hurting town.
Leon wrote:
And claiming now because it's endgame, and it's worthless to try and hide roles at this point.
Unless we, yanno, no lynch.
Leon wrote:
Smart, because it narrows down the lynch. I REFUSE A NO LYNCH TODAY! HoS: Edward Dear lord, pushing it without trying is not smart. NO NO LYNCH UNTIL THE DAY ENDS. We can scum hunt up until then. Geezus.
Bit eager to win as scum, are we?
Post 609 Leon: I highly doubt you didn't know that. Further, it's the swing vote tell. Why did you vote Igor, despite wanting Emile to die, but, as far as I can tell, never voting Emile?
Jaime wrote:
Did your role PM say you were a "Merely avarage aquanaut" or what because the whole "Merely" thing just seems out of place.
Missed this. Jaime, do you realize how terribly scummy this makes you look? Honestly, if it weren't for MY role PM I'd be voting you now.
Andrew wrote:
Like you said yourself, Igor was saying a lot of crazy stuff and looked like he definitely deserved a vote. At the time, I felt that Emile was scummy but that Igor was even scummier.
Given the other players, I think you are the least of my worries. Or second least. I think your assessment was accurate.
Post 614 Leon: Ok, fine, he's acted antitown. Can you PLEASE explain why he did the swing vote off of a townie onto a theoretical scumbuddy, when Igor's lynch would probably have SEALED THE GAME FOR SCUM?
This is the ONLY reason I basically dropped the Jaime case.
Post 618 Leon: My problem is still the swing vote. And I am actually finding Jaime town for it after reassessing it. Please counter that argument.
Jaime wrote:
While i do agree it could be considered scummy and something scum would use, I personally don't think it should be considered scummy unless you have more to go off on. From my point of veiw, just one time is not enough to build a solid case on it.
Why do you make me facepalm? What does meta have to do with a WIFOM argument for innocence?
Wellp, Leon is basically exploding into shambles of scumtardedness. But hey, if he can counter the swing vote point effectively, AND absolve his own swing vote AWAY from scum, I'll be willing to listen.