Mini 404: Diablo Mafia (Game Over)

[Mr Stoofer]

Zindy

, please could you prod STD and remussaidow in th arse with sharp sticks.

[Zindaras]

Official Voting Update

:

Thestatusquo

: 2 (DragonsofSummer, Mr Stoofer)

Mr Stoofer

: 1 (Thestatusquo)

remussaidow

: 1 (Save the Dragons)

Not Voting

: 3 (al_kohaulec, remussaidow, StallingChamp)

I have prodded remus and StD, as you asked. I have also taken the liberty to prod StallingChamp.

If the activity persists as such, I will install a deadline shortly.

[Mr Stoofer]

Things that we lost that I can remember:

• TSQ asking me what I thought of DragonsofSummer and remussaidow.
  
• I said that I didn't think DoS was scum because of the way day 1 went, but that I could see his point about remus. I put remus as my number 2 choice for scum.
  
• STD posted a very impressive analysis of remus. It was very persuasive on its own terms, but needed to be checked for accuracy or context. [As I remember, there was a lack of links to posts he quoted, and he only quoted short extracts.]
  
• I was going to check STD's post, but never got round to it.
  
• I'm sure other discussion had occurred too.

I don't suppose you could re-do your analysis STD?

[Thestatusquo]

I am still here, stoofers summary seems accurate. I miss STDs post because it ws funny.

[Save The Dragons]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Ack. That took a while.

[Save The Dragons]

yeah, that last post wasn't very informative. I didn't mean to hit submit so quickly.

I'll probably try to paraphrase what I stated and maybe be more clear.

Some of the things I'm accusing him of:

Dirtying TSQ's hands with the whole "STD's on the fence and is scum" thing
Breadcrumbing Andariel
Avoiding TJM until the last minute, trying to spread supicion onto DoS when TSQ did.

I can try to recover some quotes, but I don't feel like doing so right now

[al_kohaulec]

Yech, lost a few posts. Well, I'll try to be around towards the end of the weekend to contribute. I can't do much right now.

[Zindaras]

I'll prod everyone who hasn't posted post-crash.

[remussaidow]

unvote. Computer crapped out, requesting replacement.

[Save The Dragons]

But I wanna lynch you...not some replacement...

[Mr Stoofer]

Stoofer's approach for the next 2 days

:

We've got 7 players left, probably 1 scum.

Looking at the nightscene, I think that the scum's night 1 kill was delayed to night 2. Seems to me that they have the option of a delayed kill. Anyway, I assume that they have only 1 kill per night (on average).

With 7 players and 1 scum, we have 3 chances to lynch and only have to be right once.

In those circumstances, I happy with lynching either remus or TSQ, and then worrying about the third lynch in the unlikely event that they are both pro-town.

I'm keeping my vote on TSQ because he is the lynch-leader. I'll switch if remus/replacement overtakes him.

[Thestatusquo]

TSQ is a hard lynch. I respect you for not going for the easy one, Stoof. However, I'm pretty sure that with 7 players alive, we won't get three lynched.

See, I would like either you or remus to be lynched. I would be happier if you both eventually got lynched.

Here's a deal for you. Our next three lynches are me, remus, and you, in whatever order the town would like. If that doesn't end the game, then the scum deserve their win.

[Thestatusquo]

Oops, the end of that first sentance is wrong, I wrote it, worked out the math, and then forgot to delete it from the post.

*d'oh*

[Mr Stoofer]

Here's a deal for you. Our next three lynches are me, remus, and you, in whatever order the town would like. If that doesn't end the game, then the scum deserve their win.

No deal. I'm not going to agree to the Town giving up 1 of their 3 chances to lynch scum.

[Thestatusquo]

I thought you said you were sure Remus and I are scum? If that's so, why wouldn't you be willing, as a townie, to give yourself up to assure we're lynched. Hell, if you went along with my plan, I'd hammer myself.

That's because I'm 89.9% the scum is in you and Remus.

[Mr Stoofer]

I thought you said you were sure Remus and I are scum? If that's so, why wouldn't you be willing, as a townie, to give yourself up to assure we're lynched. Hell, if you went along with my plan, I'd hammer myself.

In those circumstances, I happy with lynching either remus or TSQ, and then worrying about the third lynch in the unlikely event that they are both pro-town.

That's a million miles from being "sure Remus and [you] are scum".

That's because I'm 89.9% the scum is in you and Remus.

Those are good odds but they can be better. I'd say I am 80% sure that the last scum is in {Thestatusquo, remussaidow}. I envy you your confidence, if you are Town. If I'm wrong, then I want a chance to lynch scum in the endgame. I'm not prepared to settle for an 80% chance of victory when there is no need to do so.

[Mr Stoofer]

Incidentally, your statement that you'd be prepared to hammer yourself cuts no ice with me. I've seen scum try this gambit.

[Save The Dragons]

Or we could take out remus, find out he's the scum, win the game, and realize both of you were pointing fingers at eachother for no reason.

Or we could get more player participation.

Or I could rewrite what I've written.

Or I could finish my chem homework.

Or I could take my unfinished chem homework to chem class.

Or I could explode.

Take your pick.

[Thestatusquo]

Or you could get on AIM and cyber with me.

[DragonsofSummer]

Wow... awkward...

Well I did like the post STD made about Remus, and it made me more suspicious of him. He has moved up to the other scum possibility on my list rather than STD because of it, and because I made a mistake when looking at STD's posts earlier in the game. As dumb as it is I had decided he was scum if TSQ wasn't before even looking. This was made apparent to me quickly afterwards and was somewhat affirmed by his post against Remus. Since everyone seems to think that if TSQ isn't scum Remus is, why don't we lynch Remus today and see where that takes us?

[al_kohaulec]

*reads DoS's sig*
*winds up fist*
*takes a swing and... misses*

, ok, I tried to post earlier, but had to drop my post halfway through writing it, so I'm gonna have to redo the post later.

But anyways, TSQ is still my best bet. I'm leaning in favor of Remus's innocence, but I still want to review his posts first. I have no reason to think of Stoofer as scummy or innocent atm, so I need to do a reread on him. StallingChamp, I haven't seen much from him, or his predecessors, so he's going to be hard to read.

I do think our best lynch for today is TSQ, so I'm going to

Vote: TSQ

[DragonsofSummer]

Awww... if you're gonna go to all that trouble at least hit me!

[sanjaya]

I think the best bets for scum are stoofer, and remus. Lets lynch me today then, stoofer tommorow, and remus on the day after that?

[Thestatusquo]

Me, sorry.

[Save The Dragons]

I'm not voting for either of you n00bs at this point in time.