Scummers Mafia: Greatest Bash? (Game Over, Scum wins?)

[MonkeyMan576]

I just said it was random, he wasn't acting scummy THEN.

I mind if you hammer.

[Pomegranate]

Moneky, I want a paraphrase of your whole PM.

Now.

...

He basically gave it. But it was very short and nondescript.

[SpyreX]

End this. Let thine hammer fall.

I dont even have to ask the questions I was going to ask, which is nice because that was a mixed bag.

[manho]

I know that someone, Kublai Khan, has claimed miller as scum and survived through endgame and win.

lol, i soft name-claimed in my 2nd post.

so monkey is the scum namecop. someone hammer?

[nhammen]

I'm going to give everyone else a chance to have their say before hammering. These past two days have given me an aversion to quickhammers, and since we do still have plenty of time until the deadline I'd like to hear other players input on this. So I guess I will do this tomorrow. Also, just in case this is all MonkeyVI, I want to hear a bit more input.

Monkey, when you were first asked for reasoning for voting, you stated that you voted manho for acting suspicious. Then you changed this to random. Also, you say that you investigated Starbuck because of lurking. You do realize that Star had already nameclaimed at the point you investigated, right? And this was not part of your reasoning? Of your claimed targets, 1 had already claimed, and 1 had soft-claimed.

Why not investigate Spyrex to find out if he was telling the truth about being DeathNote?

Also, name multiple players that you find to be scummy.

Any other last words you would like to have?

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm going to give everyone else a chance to have their say before hammering. These past two days have given me an aversion to quickhammers, and since we do still have plenty of time until the deadline I'd like to hear other players input on this. So I guess I will do this tomorrow. Also, just in case this is all MonkeyVI, I want to hear a bit more input.

Monkey, when you were first asked for reasoning for voting, you stated that you voted manho for acting suspicious. Then you changed this to random. Also, you say that you investigated Starbuck because of lurking. You do realize that Star had already nameclaimed at the point you investigated, right? And this was not part of your reasoning? Of your claimed targets, 1 had already claimed, and 1 had soft-claimed.

Why not investigate Spyrex to find out if he was telling the truth about being DeathNote?

Also, name multiple players that you find to be scummy.

Any other last words you would like to have?

To be honest I hadn't been playing that close attention. I hadn't noticed the Sprye and Starbuck nameclaims and I kind of clumsily put all my investigations in one basket rather than address each one individually. So my bad for that, but scum don't have any more need for namecops(perhaps even less so), than town, so there are some that think I am a role/name cop and some that think I am a scum cop, no one seems to agree, they just seem lynch happy. But I am town, I gave my results in good faith even though I didn't want to, and they are accurate, so I don't really know what else you are looking for.

[Starbuck]

Sorry, I had a hella busy last week and weekend.


I am definitely of the party that thinks Monkey should claim his results. His delay and then asking for a nameclaim is just making me more suspicious of him.


He finally gives his results in Post 410, which are...

Starbuck is KMD
Manho is Kublai Khan
Populartajo is Benmage

I claimed KMD in Post 148.
Manho softclaims in Post 63.
Tajo never claims.

Starbuck and populartajo have been lurking and manho has been acting suspicious.

Starbuck posted her V/LA on Friday and it goes until tomorrow.

Via Post 376.

Convenient how you leave that out of your accusation.

To be honest I hadn't been playing that close attention. I hadn't noticed the Sprye and Starbuck nameclaims and I kind of clumsily put all my investigations in one basket rather than address each one individually. So my bad for that, but scum don't have any more need for namecops(perhaps even less so), than town, so there are some that think I am a role/name cop and some that think I am a scum cop, no one seems to agree, they just seem lynch happy. But I am town, I gave my results in good faith even though I didn't want to, and they are accurate, so I don't really know what else you are looking for.

I'm calling bullshit on all of this.

How could you not notice the name claims? Especially mine, when there was quite a bit of posts about and surrounding it.

Vote: MonkeyMan576

And yes, I do realize that I am the hammer.

[dramonic]

Votecount 12: I'm BACK!

SpyreX (1): Monkeyman
Monkeyman (8): The Mask, SpyreX, Cuttlefish, Manho, Tajo, Pom, kunkstar, Starbuck
Manho (1): Nhammen


Not Voting (4): Niv, Zang, Ani, Papa Zito

A lynch has been reached!

Monkey (Battle Mage the Possessive Mafia Rolecop), has been lynched!

Prods out to The Mask, Ani, Papa Zito and Niv

It is now Night 3! Actions must be in withing 72 hours of now!

[dramonic]

Morning once again, once again another dead person in the resort, when will this horror end? This time it's Tajo... or is it Benmage?

PopularTajo (Benmage the conditionnal taximan), sledgehammered night 3!

It is now day 4! Deadline is on the 17th!
With 12 alive it's 7 to lynch

Niv is getting replaced, Mask is getting prodded on his main account =_=

[Papa Zito]

What the hell is a taximan?

vote: nhammen

[Starbuck]

Is it something like a bus driver?

[dramonic]

A taximan basically makes an action unredirectable/unblockable/un-whatverable.
In retrospect, I should have called it an empowerer XD

[SpyreX]

Oou an empowerer. Booo on what that means for roles.

And, of course, with a named mafia faction that means chances are real, real high that while not confirmed town starbuck and manho aren't possessive mafia.

nhammen or manho are good for me today barring prizes.

Vote: Manho

by a small margin.

[The Mask]

I was gonna say Zang, but.... scratch that.

Vote: manho

The whole structure and outcome of things leans to him as the next scummer. MM couldn't even figure out the reason he "copped" manho, and couldn't remember which order he targeted people. Though I

do

see nhammen's distancing from MM yesterday up until the end.

[Pomegranate]

It seems to me that Spyrex think that manho is from a different faction than Monkey, while The Mask thinks that he's from the same (and therefore Monkey knew his role). Mask, could you please clarify?

Vote: manho

. I agree with SpyreX's way of viewing things.

[The Mask]

Interesting, as I just took into account that "Possessive" could brand MM's group as not being the only faction, also despite red being a main mafia color. But, how would you explain the lonely sledgehammer killings? In other words, where would this 2nd scumgroup's kill flavor be?

[The Mask]

I don't think Starbuck has ever bussed/lynched a partner of hers. Town love

Pom's inspiration for asking me that question = more town love

[nhammen]

And, of course, with a named mafia faction that means chances are real, real high that while not confirmed town starbuck and manho aren't possessive mafia.

I was about to ask what actions of manho's you thought made him confirmed non-monkey-buddies, but then I realized that you were referring to monkey's claimed targets. What makes you think that he was telling the truth about his targets?

Also, only one kill. I assumed one Mafia group because of this. Now you've got me thinking...

Also, you say manho is not partners with MM, but even after being eliminated from one scumgroup, is still more likely to be scum?

I was gonna say Zang, but.... scratch that.

Too much lurking. I have no real read on him other than he was the guy that hammered Zazie... which is pretty scummy.

The whole structure and outcome of things leans to him as the next scummer. MM couldn't even figure out the reason he "copped" manho, and couldn't remember which order he targeted people.

I agree with this. And as manho was my top suspect yesterday:

vote manho

[nhammen]

Although, if manho is Town, then kunk's actions yesterday look like deflecting from Monkey on to manho, and then bussing Monkey at the end.

[nhammen]

Although, if manho is Town, then kunk's actions yesterday look like deflecting from Monkey on to manho, and then bussing Monkey at the end. Although, I think that means that mine do too...

[SpyreX]

Mostly it makes sense to give the names of NOT your faction so that if they vocally support you and then you rope you haven't just screwed them all.

As for the other kill I'm not sure yet. Thats the one piece that doesn't add up right.

[populartajo]

go town

[kunkstar7]

What the hell is a taximan?

vote: nhammen

Why the vote on nhammen? I don't see any reasoning in your previous posts that lead up to this vote, so its kind of abrupt.

The single kill tends to me to be more of a one scumfaction thing. I can see the Possessive part as possibly just being part of the role, as its just an adjective. For example Tajo was the "Conditional" Taximan, Neto was the "Descendant" doc, Hoopla was "the slightly racist" mason dayvig, and etc. Looks like just Dram's naming convention with roles? This fits with the single kill as well.

We can finally lynch the followerscum, sweet.

Vote: manho.

[SpyreX]

If its one scumgroup (which the more I think about it it damn well could be) we need to hit scum now because I'm betting we have 1 more mislynch floating around before failure.

[SpyreX]

God I reread and with a dead doc yea there's probably only one scumgroup.

Thats NOT good. I'm not gonna mope but to say a town win is an uphill struggle is, well, an understatement.

Even sadder is nothing awesome jumped out at a reread on Monkey - the town clicks are all dead. The only other person there's real interaction with still alive is Starbuck and that's not enough for me to bite on.

So, yea, we need to step up with the talkering.