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Post Post #3975 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:37 am

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In post 3973, RachMarie wrote:How do you come up with that number Nero?

Still waiting on a response from Nacho on my other questions. He is a lot better at math than I am and I am trying to figure out how many scum we are likely to have in this game, it helps me sort out reads. Also if this game is multiball or not, helps me sort things out. And by that I mean two mafia teams instead of one, Nero I know you think an SK is enough to make it multiball instead of a single maf team and a 3rd party.

Spy feel free to add in here as well, you are my top town read, and I know you have played in a ton more games than I have. And most likely are also better at math than I am. I suck at statistics ended up dropping out of the class 3 times.
Welcome to scum claim this is.

You are still trying to sort me yet you didn't even bother to ask me a mathematically based setup question.

Look at my name.

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One might think I'd be good at it. But you aren't interested in hunting me only silencing me.
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Post Post #3976 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:38 am

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In post 3954, Expedience wrote:There's a difference between town who don't give a fuck and scum who are trying to look like town who don't give a fuck. The latter wave it in everyone's faces (e.g. ) and blatantly try to hide behind it (e.g. ). The fact that Nosferatu does this openly just makes it easier to see because he thinks wifom will protect him
I agree with this, but I'm not sure if it's insightful or merely obvious.

Nonetheless,
VOTE: Nosferatu

TAM could still be scum, Nacho is good enough to appear town. But I like them a lot more now and it's not like this is a now or never situation.
I'd be willing to vote Kraska because PGO is something that scum can claim to try to stay alive, especially if MB though that's unclear atm.
Skrub's reaction looked vaguely town, though I have seen scum pull off a reversal in exactly the same way.
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Post Post #3977 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:38 am

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its like you just keep posting things but don't know what they mean.

Its a 32 player and I believe in all my heart that KTS slipped that it was MB. 10 scum would make this a 10/22 (or 10/1/21 if we have SK) setup which seems more than reasonable. Assuming that yes this is MB then 5/5 makes sense as scum numbers. Also Math seems fixated on there being 5 scum and it looks like hunting the other team. And Nacho's kill list is exactly 10 players long.
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Post Post #3978 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:38 am

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In post 3971, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 3967, Expedience wrote:I'm not actually VT (and I thought I made that pretty clear), but I'd rather not have to claim.
Yeah. Very clear. For the vig tonight.
Unless you're the vig, I doubt they'll shoot me after I basically claimed PR.
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In post 3972, Nero Cain wrote:Math, even if Kraska is scum there are still 9 other scum in this game. I think your single minded tunnel on her is pretty bad regardless of alignment.
You'd think right? But it is actually pretty townie.
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Post Post #3979 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:40 am

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Methblade do something before we mislynch Nos instead of trolling lol
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Post Post #3980 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:44 am

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In post 378, Killthestory wrote:hey nero since this is multiball are u sure ur not scum either tbh?
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I don't know whether or not to trust TAM so I'm just going to leave them at null. While they sound very town, all the "AtE wall" stuff I'm worried they could fake easily and I feel a bit uneasy about the predatory questioning. Don't really care whether or not they get lynched.
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Post Post #3981 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:45 am

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ok what has KTS done that I should town read him for?
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Post Post #3982 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:47 am

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Nothing, I don't townread him
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Post Post #3983 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:50 am

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In post 3977, Nero Cain wrote:its like you just keep posting things but don't know what they mean.

Its a 32 player and I believe in all my heart that KTS slipped that it was MB. 10 scum would make this a 10/22 (or 10/1/21 if we have SK) setup which seems more than reasonable. Assuming that yes this is MB then 5/5 makes sense as scum numbers. Also Math seems fixated on there being 5 scum and it looks like hunting the other team. And Nacho's kill list is exactly 10 players long.
My list is based upon my top 5. I don't ever vote a scumread under my top 5 regardless of size of the game.
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Post Post #3984 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:50 am

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In post 3975, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3973, RachMarie wrote:How do you come up with that number Nero?

Still waiting on a response from Nacho on my other questions. He is a lot better at math than I am and I am trying to figure out how many scum we are likely to have in this game, it helps me sort out reads. Also if this game is multiball or not, helps me sort things out. And by that I mean two mafia teams instead of one, Nero I know you think an SK is enough to make it multiball instead of a single maf team and a 3rd party.

Spy feel free to add in here as well, you are my top town read, and I know you have played in a ton more games than I have. And most likely are also better at math than I am. I suck at statistics ended up dropping out of the class 3 times.
Welcome to scum claim this is.

You are still trying to sort me yet you didn't even bother to ask me a mathematically based setup question.

Look at my name.

MathBlade.

Math.

One might think I'd be good at it. But you aren't interested in hunting me only silencing me.
Nobody cares how good you are at mathematically solving games. Trust me. It's my MO, and nobody really seems to care about it, and actually like to scumread me for it. I'd suggest you stop while you're even in the same dimension, as it's too late to stop while you're ahead.
In post 3977, Nero Cain wrote:its like you just keep posting things but don't know what they mean.

Its a 32 player and I believe in all my heart that KTS slipped that it was MB. 10 scum would make this a 10/22 (or 10/1/21 if we have SK) setup which seems more than reasonable. Assuming that yes this is MB then 5/5 makes sense as scum numbers. Also Math seems fixated on there being 5 scum and it looks like hunting the other team. And Nacho's kill list is exactly 10 players long.
While I like this line of thinking, all of this is based off the the assumption that there are indeed 5 scum per team.

But all the more reason to lynch from this pool. It seems like nobody is up for lynching Math, and KTS I guess has kinda slipped off for now, but we could definitely go with a TAM lynch.

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Post Post #3985 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:51 am

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In post 3983, MathBlade wrote:My list is based upon my top 5. I don't ever vote a scumread under my top 5 regardless of size of the game.
Time to change that.
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Post Post #3986 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:51 am

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I AGREE!

So if he hasn't done anything townie in 160 pages I don't see why I should stop scum reading him.
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Post Post #3987 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:52 am

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In post 3980, Expedience wrote:Nero is scum for continuing to push KTS exclusively based on this
I'm pretty sure that Nero is doing lots of other stuff. Where do you get "pushing KTS exclusively" from?
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Post Post #3988 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:55 am

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In post 3979, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Methblade do something before we mislynch Nos instead of trolling lol
Trolling implies I am doing something for the lols.

Notice how my scumreads poke me as to why instead of using the common senses.

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Reads wise I struggle sometimes.
However I am pretty good at setup spec. I called a town vig in Wake's and everyone called me nuts. Had wrong player read for it but still.

And that was a specific critique of Rach Marie who knows I am damn good at setup spec.
Call me an idiot on reads fine.
But with setup spec I am damn fine thank you very much.

@ABR nah Serves me so far. Don't see a reason why I would join a wagon pushed by a scumread when I am asked by a scumread.
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Post Post #3989 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:56 am

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He's saying that I don't have anything else on KTS other than KTS having not done anything worthwhile in 160 pages.
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Post Post #3990 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:56 am

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baiting rach for math puzzles counts as trolling :P
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Post Post #3991 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:58 am

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In post 3987, davesaz wrote:
In post 3980, Expedience wrote:Nero is scum for continuing to push KTS exclusively based on this
I'm pretty sure that Nero is doing lots of other stuff. Where do you get "pushing KTS exclusively" from?
I mean that the only reason Nero has to scumread KTS is "lol scumslip" from the very early game, yet he's repeatedly reinforcing his read based on nothing other than that. This is a scum thing to do.
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Post Post #3992 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:01 pm

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In post 3990, Albert B. Rampage wrote:baiting rach for math puzzles counts as trolling :P
I am not baiting her for them.
I am saying because of who she asked she is scumclaiming.
She says she is trying to figure out why I am on Kraska yet she doesn't try to ask me a setup spec question involving math.
I am not asking her to ask me now. I am saying she is not interested in sorting me.
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Post Post #3993 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:02 pm

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In post 3977, Nero Cain wrote:its like you just keep posting things but don't know what they mean.

Its a 32 player and I believe in all my heart that KTS slipped that it was MB. 10 scum would make this a 10/22 (or 10/1/21 if we have SK) setup which seems more than reasonable. Assuming that yes this is MB then 5/5 makes sense as scum numbers. Also Math seems fixated on there being 5 scum and it looks like hunting the other team. And Nacho's kill list is exactly 10 players long.
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Post Post #3994 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:04 pm

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In post 3991, Expedience wrote:I mean that the only reason Nero has to scumread KTS is "lol scumslip" from the very early game, yet he's repeatedly reinforcing his read based on nothing other than that. This is a scum thing to do.
If you are agreeing with me that he's done nothing worthwhile why should I stop scumreading him?

NOS is getting ran up for practically the same reasoning so I don't see how that applies to him/her but not KTS.
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Post Post #3995 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:11 pm

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In post 3988, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3979, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Methblade do something before we mislynch Nos instead of trolling lol
Trolling implies I am doing something for the lols.

Notice how my scumreads poke me as to why instead of using the common senses.

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Reads wise I struggle sometimes.
However I am pretty good at setup spec. I called a town vig in Wake's and everyone called me nuts. Had wrong player read for it but still.

And that was a specific critique of Rach Marie who knows I am damn good at setup spec.
Call me an idiot on reads fine.
But with setup spec I am damn fine thank you very much.

@ABR nah Serves me so far. Don't see a reason why I would join a wagon pushed by a scumread when I am asked by a scumread.
I think I've been wrong with setup spec once, and that was more flavor spec than anything else. But it didn't change the outcome of the game. (town lying was responsible for that loss)
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Post Post #3996 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:13 pm

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In post 2603, davesaz wrote:I looked at KTS iso, and found plenty of empty drivel and no attempt to find scum.
Has this changed? My guess is not.
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Post Post #3997 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:19 pm

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In post 3996, davesaz wrote:
In post 2603, davesaz wrote:I looked at KTS iso, and found plenty of empty drivel and no attempt to find scum.
Has this changed? My guess is not.
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Post Post #3998 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:46 pm

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Man i am soo tired of mathblade.

10 nontown total would be decent. A 10 person scumteam even if town is stacked definitely wouldn't fly back in ye old reviewer days.

It really depends on how some of the mechanics shake out. I could see 5 5 1 or 7-8 1
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Post Post #3999 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:48 pm

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no wai its 16 baddies
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
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