There's a good chance the role-blocker targeted me the first night.
We'll have a better idea if somebody claims to have targeted me on night 1.
Also, we can easily test xtox's claim the following night, by asking him to track one of the claimed power-roles and having the role confirm whether they used their action or not.
On the flip side, if xtox has a positive result on scum, the scum now knows that they can't get away with e.g. a vanilla or a miller claim.
Fark, I would like to see you claim next.
pepoel who spel bad and don't know grammer is jerks
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
Iam claims to have blocked Fark and Sotty, so i'd rather see them go last, actually.
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
If anything, it's more scum risk to claim a strong role, since Fark and Sotty can easily catch him in a lie by claiming to have results from the night they got jailed.
Also, based on the overall play, IAUN has more townie points than your predecessor _over9000 from my point of view.
pepoel who spel bad and don't know grammer is jerks
Xtoxm wrote:Iam is scum, his claim makes no sense. If he was town he would have blocked me. Clearly he has stated extreme suspicion of me, and blocking me would test me.
Also, I disagree with this.
If you're a jailkeeper, jailing a claimed weak tracker
a) prevents the town from potentially gathering information if the tracker claim is thruthful;
b) prevents a potential vig kill against a scummy player who claimed weak tracker;
Both of which seem anti-town and can't be justified by "testing" the claim.
pepoel who spel bad and don't know grammer is jerks
If he was a Maf RB he just has to claim truthfully.
a) prevents the town from potentially gathering information if the tracker claim is thruthful;
My power isn't very useful. You don't not target someone you're that suspicious of just because they claim a PR. Especially not one as weak as I claimed.
b) prevents a potential vig kill against a scummy player who claimed weak tracker;
Omai i'm sure Iam-town would have been devastated to lose me.
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
Actually, your second point is better than I had originally thought.
But still, there was vig N1
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
. I'll claim who I passed the bullets to when the MC is done.
Whilst Jailkeeper is an obvious fakeclaim for the Mafia RB, we can't test it until we know the results. Based on everything but roles, Xtomx beats IAAUN on my scumlist, and right now the claims are fairly null. We'll know more once actions are claimed.
1) He was under heavy suspicion yesterday, so the scum would likely figure he'd be blocked/tracked/whatever and send someone else to make the kill. That's also why I jailed Fark and not CJ N1.
2) If he is scum, the chances were that his claim would trip him up somewhere down the line anyway. Of course, I was expecting that since most everyone agreed that he was supicious, we wouldn't be letting him claim his results after everyone else. I pretty much took that as a given, because it seemed like common sense to me. Apparently not, though.
Lol, I only just noticed all the possible roles are on first page. That means all these abstract claims aren't indicitive of being town >.>
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
Percy and Sotty basically confirm each other, which leave Iam and Pablo as scum.
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
Now hold up, Xtoxm, I don't think that confirms them. It links them, but I don't think it confirms them. If there were two remaining scum, those two roles are the ones I would pick to claim. Work it out between themselves to claim those two, as they compliment each other nicely and, as you say, confirm them. What better way to claim?
Ok. Well I targetted Fark last night, he visited someone.
Kab is pretty much confirmed town, it's a Mini Normal, there's gotta be atleast 4 VT's.
Looks like bastard mod too cos we have a GF but no cop.
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
Ok, I targetted Percy on Night 1, and got no result.
I targetted Xtoxm last night and I got a "no gun" result.
As far as I'm concerned, Xtoxm is cleared - My role description states that all mafia have guns, and the GF is the only one that could possibly have messed with my investigation results among the possible mafia roles.
And Iam is either the jailkeeper he claims to be or a mafia RB.
A thought about my investigations: Other players, who, if I had investigated, would have turned up as having a gun: Sotty, Pablo (both claimed after me, so if they are scum, they would know that there was a gunsmith, but not who I had investigated)
Players who should not have a gun: Iamusername, Artem, Percy, kabenon007 (Percy and Kab claimed after me, Artem on Day 1, and Iam before me today)
I'll wait for further results before I point any fingers. I'll need to do up a chart as well, to help my feeble brain.
We can use Sotty's kill to eliminate a suspect, and confirm Percy isn't faking.
Fark can check one of Kab/Iam, with PM protecting him.
Iam is today's lynch, if he is scum he will just block someone to give his buddy a better chance, and his role has no further use if he is town.
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
Actually, that doesn't work. But i'm sure there's some plan we can produce to improve town's chances.
Smooth as silk when he's scum, and very much capable of running things from behind the scenes while appearing to be doing minimal effort. - Almost50
Xtoxm is consistently great - Shosin
you were the only wolf i townread at endgame - the worst
Xtomx - Weak Tracker (N1??, tracked Fark N2)
Artem - Self-watcher (RBed N1, one name on list from N2 (Percy))
iamausername - Jailkeeper. (N1 Fark, N2 Sotty)
Farkshinsoup - Gunsmith (N1 no result, N2 "no gun" on Xtomx)
Percy - Bulletsmith (N1 pass to Artem, N2 pass to Artem)
kabenon007 - Vanilla
Sotty - 0-shot vig
Pablo - Bodyguard (N1??, N2??)
Open questions:
-Who did _over9000 target on N1? What was the result?
-Who did Pablo target on N1, N2?
Thoughts:
-The setup still makes sense without the 0-shot vig role, as Gunsmiths can use the bullets. Alternatively, the Gunsmith need not exist in this setup.
-Passing a bullet to another player and getting them to target someone of the town's choosing may be the best way to test Fark and Sotty's claims. I believe at least one of them is town, given my role.
-Scenario 1: Both iamausername and Fark are town. Then we must have a mafia RBer who targetted Artem on N1. The scum are in kabe, Sotty and Pablo. I would be inclined to believe Sotty is the Mafia RBer in this case, as Artem was not blocked on N2, and Sotty was RBed by iamausername - as the most dangerous outed powerrole at the time, I see no reason why the scum wouldn't block Artem. As for Pablo vs. kabe.... I'll think about it and post tomorrow.
-Scenario 2: Both iamausername and Fark are scum. iamausername blocked Artem on N1, and Fark must have a night action (for Xtomx to pick up).
-They are either scum together or town together. I can't see one-town-one-scum working with how they confirmed each other.
...I'll have to think about that one, and a plan etc. But for now, bed (it is: late).
