Mafia 98 - Apennine Mafia (Game Over)
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Battle Mage Jester
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Lol, given how much i hate losing, it's very rare that i say this, but:
Good game scum! You absolutely had us crushed. Given the size of the game, i think everyone was under a bit of heat at one time or another, but even if id got cold feet on the Benmage wagon, it's likely that my next suspect would have been Sens/Zach, both of whom were town. lol
So yeah, you completely deserve the landslide victory in my eyes. Tbh, im pretty pleased i managed to survive the duration of the game.
I'm also happy Sens was town- would have been a little aggreived if he'd managed to slip under the radar as scum.
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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alexhans Mafia Scum
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Ok... so DDD lurked the whole game and got away with it... That's pretty sad.
KMD lurked a lot late in the game too.
If it werent for the really bad play of town they should've been found.
If only GIEFF hadn't self hammered...
I thought it was Benmage, DDD/Sensfan and KMD... Good Job SpyreX.
Battle Mage... So much for me being a danger in lylo... Look how damned fast you voted...
Anyway... Town lost this game before it even started. I've realized that it's best to have a lot of different playstyles than to have a lot of people trying to dictate the terms of a game.
I've seen a lot of anti-town plays here... That's probably why it was so hard.
My only mislynch was jammer after all. Sorry Jammer.
It's ironic that SpyreX was pursued so much for putting his scumpartner at L-1.
GIEFF specially asked for you to not be lynched.SpyreX wrote:I'll freely admit I am 100% baffled at my not getting lynched after the GIEFF lynch.
Worst game I've played so far. No doubts. Both in playstyle, outcome, team play, scumhunting, etc...I'm back...-
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Vi Professor Paragon
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I did my best. I have no regrets.even though I derailed two scum wagons
GIEFF, had you not self-hammered I would have fulfilled my end of the deal and hammered SpyreX for the sake of a deadline lynch.
Kmd was obvscum. Has nobody played with KmdTown before?
We were never going to lynch DDD anyway. Seriously.
Yes he was outrightly telling us he was playing anti-Town and had no desire to change, but even if we tried policy lynching based on that he wouldn't have been the first person to go.
I need to play a game with Zach-scum sometime so my reads on him will improve.
I don't think any of the scum threw any AtEs
I'm definitely keeping this game as an example to throw in the face of anyone who says that long days are good for Town.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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Vi Professor Paragon
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That's news to me; most of the time people ask me if I've lost my mindKmd N3 wrote:Vi is a VERY good playerand people listen to her.(it's not my fault I haven't found it yet after 14 months)Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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SensFan Fortuna Ex Deus
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*shrug* I'd have to go and reread this entire game, which won't happen, but I don't think it was a matter of Scum playing well, as much as it was that Town (myself included) were absolutely terrible.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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VP Baltar he/himSurvivorhe/him
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I didn't follow this game too closely, so I can't give substantial comments. However, I know that the various members of the scum team all had significant pressure on them...it's just too bad the town didn't follow through.
DDD should have been lynched early. I'm not sure how he got away with that playstyle.
I agree with what Vi said about long days. You have no idea how happy I was when I saw I was dead. Town spent too much time talking themselves out of good lynch choices it seems to me.
GIEFF definitely shouldn't have self-hammered, but then again I don't even understand how he was wagoned that high. He seemed town to me, even though he wasn't creating waaaay too much noise for the good of town.
Anyhow, good game to the scum team. How many times is this I've lost to kmd scum now? 3? This is getting depressing (even if I'm not really around to help).-
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SensFan Fortuna Ex Deus
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It had nothing to do with personal dislike, I found you obvscum.Benmage wrote:SF whyyyyy I finally looked past the personal dislike, i wish you would've.
And I'm pretty sure it was the Scum that kept trying to convince me otherwise.(11:04:10 PM) senspizzaline: That's actually my bold prediction for the year
(11:04:19 PM) senspizzaline: Miami finishes 2nd in the AFCE.
(11:05:35 PM) jhawk01b: my bold prediction for the year is that whoever wins the NFC West will have a winning record-
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Vi Professor Paragon
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Zachrulez Jack of All Trades
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alexhans Mafia Scum
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DDD basically said he was anti town and that he wouldnt play... That should've been unacceptable had it not been for the fact that he wasn't the only one... SensFan's playstyle was pretty bad so I would've probably stuck to my word and lynched one of them in lylo just to make sure they didn't win with that awful playstyle.
Killing me. Good scum choice. The only one I could've really mislynched today was Benmage because he seemed to confortable with the game after he was somewhat cleared by his AtE.
Wasn't DDD in all the lynching waggons? :S
I always had a bad feeling about KMD wich I never could explain... specially with the Camn kill.I'm back...-
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Vi Professor Paragon
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DDD: Every wagon except jammer (was voting Battle Mage)alexhans 3135 wrote:Wasn't DDD in all the lynching waggons? :S
SpyreX: Every wagon except Benmage (was not voting)
Kmd: No wagon except Battle Mage (too busy lying about being V/LA)
I saw Kmd post elsewhere onsite 30 minutes after GIEFF self-hammered. I was... displeased.Everything you say and do matters. People will respond in ways you may never see. May those responses be what you intend.-
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Zachrulez Jack of All Trades
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Debonair Danny DiPietro Jack of All Trades
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You and me both, brudda. Really I just got completely behind in the first massive week/two weeks of this game and instead of trying to catch-up with all of it and make a bunch of dumb mistakes in the process, it was easier to simply announce that I was going to be the most helpful lurker ever and then do that.VP Baltar wrote:DDD should have been lynched early. I'm not sure how he got away with that playstyle.
I do think the one big swing point in the game was the Day 3 deadline lynch of GIEFF instead of SpyreX, because if SpyreX gets lynched there I think maybe I don't get the next day, but I do get lynched which leaves KMD on all on lonesome to get the last lynch or two.-
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KittyMo Too Sparkly
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Well, I've been following this game closely since about a month ago, when the game was at page 100. Zachrulez was talking about a game he was in that was 98 pages, and since it was a boring summer day, I decided to read the whole thing. By the time I had finished reading, the game was at 100 pages, and since I'd made it that far, I was having trouble stopping reading, so I went ahead and added it to my Watched Topics. =]
Anyways, my list of reads on August 21st was the following:
Town to Scum
Zachrulez (:P)
Benmage
Jammer
Gieff (needs to shut up tho)
Battle Mage (really needs to shut up)
Kmd4390
Vi (cuz of meta on bcc)
SensFan
Debonair Danny Dipetro (what a weirdo...)
alexhans
SpyreX
Which turned out to be pretty accurate, though Kmd was nearer to the middle than the bottom.
Why you guys lynched Gieff and Jammer, I will never know. And bad, bad townie who voted early in LyLo. -shakes head- But, anyways, it was fun to read, though probably not that fun for the town to play in.
I have a question for Gieff, though: How do you make those activity tables? I tried making them for a game I was in, and it took way too much time for you to have been using the method I was using.Alt of Ariel | MafiaScum wiki volunteer contributor & sysop | Identity (Mish Mash) is back | Speakeasy Secret Santa
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alexhans Mafia Scum
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Yeah... They really used the fact that there was no search to their advantage...Vi wrote:
DDD: Every wagon except jammer (was voting Battle Mage)alexhans 3135 wrote:Wasn't DDD in all the lynching waggons? :S
SpyreX: Every wagon except Benmage (was not voting)
Kmd: No wagon except Battle Mage (too busy lying about being V/LA)
I saw Kmd post elsewhere onsite 30 minutes after GIEFF self-hammered. I was... displeased.
I'm totally unimpressed about scum's playstyle.
KittyMo... why was I second in your scumlist? Can you state reasons?I'm back...-
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Battle Mage Jester
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Wow Kitty, a new high. Coming into a game you did not participate in, and start flaming. Fantastic.
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Zachrulez Jack of All Trades
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alexhans Mafia Scum
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Oh... Something I've been wanting to say for a long time... I was deeply annoyed by the fact that there was no threat of replacement from the mod. He only prodded by rquest and wouldn't replace someone even if that person wouldn't play.
Cephir's confirmation at night was a load of crap... I don't even know why he did it instead of aknowledging that he couldn't play anymore.
We lost the game fair and square but the activity leniency made it easier for everyone to lurk without any consequence.
hopefully, I'm gonna learn a lot about this game.I'm back...-
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Benmage Survivor
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Word. If it wasn't for the fact that we had two mislynches due to lurkers which equaled 4 free deaths.Zachrulez wrote: Well we all did fail hard as a town.
I would've hounded DDD, but SF was practically the same for most of the game, and at times worse so I didn't know which one to go for and ended up ignorin both.-
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Zachrulez Jack of All Trades
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This should be a big lesson in the ability to distinguish between flake lurking, and active lurking (the latter is scummy and the former is null.)Benmage wrote:
Word. If it wasn't for the fact that we had two mislynches due to lurkers which equaled 4 free deaths.Zachrulez wrote: Well we all did fail hard as a town.
I would've hounded DDD, but SF was practically the same for most of the game, and at times worse so I didn't know which one to go for and ended up ignorin both.
I'll admit that I failed to make that distinction in this game myself.-
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jammer Goon
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Imo, replacements should only happen if the person being replaced agrees with it, or with flaking out.alexhans wrote:Oh... Something I've been wanting to say for a long time... I was deeply annoyed by the fact that there was no threat of replacement from the mod. He only prodded by rquest and wouldn't replace someone even if that person wouldn't play.
Possibly with rule violations, but modkills work as well there.
Actually, this is something to make a thread in mafia discussion with.
"Should a mod replace someone who only posts if prodded."
And benmage, Cerhrir and bcc both comfirmed at night.
Not being able to play is one thing, saying you can play and not doing it is poor.
I'm rather sure he (semi)automated it and got some code to do it for him.KittyMo wrote:I have a question for Gieff, though: How do you make those activity tables? I tried making them for a game I was in, and it took way too much time for you to have been using the method I was using.-
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Battle Mage Jester
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lol, she was whinging about it to me elsewhere beforehand though. And tbh, i hardly think the reason we lost was a direct result of me and Gieff "posting too much".Zachrulez wrote:
Well we all did fail hard as a town.Battle Mage wrote:Wow Kitty, a new high. Coming into a game you did not participate in, and start flaming. Fantastic.
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BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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