Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

[Kise]

why don't you give 4 suspects with reasoning why, and reasoning for your top town reads.

2nd this.

[pappums rat]

Votecount 1.7

"We're gonna launch that nuke and ride it all the way into history." -Revolver Ocelot, Metal Gear Solid

zabriel - 5 (jasonT1981, Melmond, Nero Cain, Kublai Khan, I Am Innocent)
Kublai Khan - 2 (Kise, zabriel)
BloodCovenant - 2 (Yates, ThAdmiral)
ThAdmiral - 2 (Acosmist, BloodCovenant)
Shahrizai - 1 (snifit)
I Am Innocent - 1 (Benmage)

Not voting - Shahrizai, Cybertronix, PeregrineV, Amrun, Zoroaster, Tammy, rapidcanyon

With 20 alive it takes 11 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is 10 PM EST on October 29, 2012.

[pappums rat]

Amrun has failed to meet activity requirements so I am now beginning a search for a replacement. If she posts in thread before one is found she will remain in the game.

rapidcanyon has recieved his first prod.

[zabriel]

Gonna have to agree here. IAI is asking for a lot of information, which could be the start of a kill-list for tonight.

[jasonT1981]

why don't you give 4 suspects with reasoning why, and reasoning for your top town reads.

2nd this.

Actually lets go one further... most of your posts are fluff.

Why don't you list your scum suspects and why.

[jasonT1981]

Gonna have to agree here. IAI is asking for a lot of information, which could be the start of a kill-list for tonight.

IAI Asking for a list of who someone thinks is scum is actually a kill list?

I must be missing alot in my drugged state tonight.

[zabriel]

Might want to direct that question a bit better Jason. Is that for Kise or IAI?

PEdit: He's also asking for top town reads. Scum want to kill the towniest townies that ever towned.

[Benmage]

@Ben & Nero: You guys think the other is scum? You both have big sticks, put your heads together....if you know what I mean

I was wavering before. I'd say town now.

@Ben
Cyber still looks like shit to me, but it seems like the "coaching" is more AV trying to create a trap. So I'm not entirely sure that Cyber isn't scum, but I feel pretty sure that Cyber and AV don't share an alignment. Given that and the flavor of the game, I was wondering if we might be dealing with mafia/werewolf split

among HP and Metal Gear villains.

Right now it's just speculation and such.

I considered this as well. Multiple scum faction games are called multiball.

[Benmage]

Yo Jay don't hold out on the goodies!

Also 298... zabby's town. Come on over to IAI.

[Acosmist]

How bad at mafia would you say you are, Benmage?

[Zoroaster]

that would be MGS theme exclusive.

I forgot there for a moment that Acosmith claimed Snake. Don't know how.

@Zoroaster, I'm assuming you're up to date with the thread now? What's your opinion on IAI?

Actually do not remember reading one post by him, so you're going to have to give me time on that.

That being said, if he's not a replacement, he's leaning scum off the bat.

Ah. I see why you ask now Benmage. That does throw my read off a bit. There's time though--so I'll stick with gut for the time being.

Unvote, Vote: Zabriel

[Kise]

Sure.

Kublai Khan is sketchiest. I shouldn't say every post of his is him playing an angle, but what gets my attention is the string pulling. He's relying too strongly on opinions, and since I was one of the townies that lost to him years ago, the sting of his miller fakeclaim has never gone away. Remembering that and seeing how quickly he says you (jason) townslipped, something does not feel right. I KNOW KK is schooled in the art of mind gaming, so why wouldn't he suspect you of doing the same?

As with AV's minimal posting style, and with his team now being down one member (a powerful roleblocker at that), I expect the mafia to be in chill mode right now with 'BRB' or prod dodging post. IAI and snifit come to mind. Rereading IAI's last two posts, I see he's caught up with the game but is only setting sights on zab. What makes my eyebrow raise is how he prefaces the vote park by saying he may switch after reading other isos. So, let's just imagine zab is town and continues to get votes... Wouldn't it be opportunistic for IAI (assuming scum) to go "naaaah ima stay on this wagon. will read other isos later" I don't want to say too much until he responds but it rubs me the wrong way that he asks Ben for 4 suspects when only listing zab as his suspect. Someone come rub me right }:-)

With snifit, I don't see what was "false-sounding" about Shah's post. By giving so little information behind his vote, I doubt snifit wants us to join him... and what's the point of voting someone if you don't want others to as well? Not that snifit needs to shout for us to all vote Shah, but it looks like a lazy attempt at looking busy while still laying low. As for the remark about Yates being killed... I kind of want to use that against him, but at the same time he said it in a way that entertains the reader, so he could easily say "no don't take it seriously, Kise you're a tryhard".

Other minimalists/lurkers are Shah, Amrun, Zoro and Cyber... for some reason Cyber isn't looking suspect to me, but it seems like he should. Bigger fish to fry? Maybe that's why. He's not saying anything to move the game forward. I got no feelings for Shah. Zor is taking it easy. Consolidating my scumlist to a reasonable number, I'ma say KK, IAI, snif and Zor/Cyber.

I haven't forgotten about Melmond & zabriel. I think BC's done good with highlighting the potential "there's 2 mafias" slip, but my GUT says to put zab on the scummy-leaning-null side.

p.edit: yeeeea not feeling the zab lynch. It's funny that 3 of my suspects are on the wagon.

[Kise]

Nero how bad am I at mafia?

[Nero Cain]

Bad like Midas bad.

[Kise]

But he's bad like Nero bad. Guess we're on the same page.

Except you're scum with KK. Discuss.

[Nero Cain]

I'm scum with KK?

[Benmage]

How bad at mafia would you say you are, Benmage?

Why are you purposely playing bad? Do you actually want us to lynch you?

[Nero Cain]

If you think scum IAI would just blindly hop on the easiest wagon when BC is the #2 wagon and that is who I voted the whole part prior to the day kill is just dumb.

Unless the leading wagon is a buddy then yeah, I think you'll hop on.

Though my problem is that instead of taking the time to get back home and retype what you supposedly lost your whole "catch-up" is about Zab and nothing else that has happened. That's why it looks like you A.) really really wanted to get a foot on that wagon and B.) really really wanted to get a post in so you wouldn't get called for lurking. Neither of which gives me town vibes.

@nero, i just noted two possible slips where he indicated more than 1 scum team. interesting shit man.

I doubt even scum would know if there are more teams. I think it is best to wait to day 2 to see if its possible. Can't tell anything now.

BUT

Given the flip was just 'Mafia Roleblocker' I am thinking just one team. As there was no faction name etc.

If you join a game and your scum team is small then its pretty easy to guess.

I think its shitty but I have been in games with two unnamed teams.

I have no issue with IAI asking Ben for his scum reads, Ben saying no doesn't fill with joy. Though I do agree that IAI should. Ben needs to do it as well.

Gonna have to agree here. IAI is asking for a lot of information, which could be the start of a kill-list for tonight.

IAI Asking for a list of who someone thinks is scum is actually a kill list?

I must be missing alot in my drugged state tonight.

Yes. He asked for Ben's biggest town reads too.

edit: Zab owned Jason. lol

Multiball is catchy but its a stupid term.

[Nero Cain]

IDK, at this point I wouldn't mind running up both Zab and IAI but we can only lynch one person.....

Roles are meant to be random so its not like an inexperienced player can't be scum. I have serious issues with him not answering questions about his game play. Though at the same time his "scumminess" could just be inexperience. Scum take who they want to lylo, its our job to try to weed out distractions and stuff that gives town less of a chance to win. And the slot is scummy anyways so it needs death.

But between the two I don't really care who gets strung up.

[ThAdmiral]

Update: I officially declare zabriel full of fail

FIFY!!!

You know what? I agree with this. He is full of fail, as in he's playing badly. I don't, however, think he is full of scum.

So in your opinion we should let him live so he can active lurk and do nothing the whole game while he sits there and eats up information targets and (if town) makes an acceptable scapegoat that scum can tunnel on.

If he's town he should be modkilled anyways + town loose games 'cause town are to afraid to policy lynch n crap. Would you really want to trust this guy in LYLO?

I don't even think you can accuse him of active lurking. At worst he's not answering

some

questions put to him.

Wait, why should he be modkilled? Where did that come from?

It's nowhere near lylo, why do you feel you need to reduce this argument to an absurd abstraction like that?

That last post from IAI sucks dick!!!. I think its a slight scumtell to ISO since you should be reading the whole game instead. + it looks like jumping on the highest wagon instead of trying to find who the scummiest player is 'cause THE WHOLE "CATCHUP" POST IS DEDICATED TO ZAB. I simply do not get a town vibe from this 'cause I think you'd have more to say then just about one person.

I have an incredibly desire to switch gears and kill IAI.

This is better thinking. I didn't even realise the iso was only about zabriel. That's scummy as fuck. As in he just did an iso on the leading wagon so he could justify his own vote.

vote: iai

VOTE: ThAdmiral

*headdesK* its like he wants us to lynch him. Other than responding to things involving his claim. Can anyone say Acos has done anything this game?

He literally hasn't done anything else. But his claim is solid (c wat I did thar), so he gets a free pass.
I mean

I

believe it.

@Ben, Top 4 suspects and why please. Also would like your biggest town reads on record too.

This question is random as fuck.
Dae think directing attention elsewhere?

@Thad

I don't really want to vote BC. You previously voted IAI, and he just said he's going to be a useless lurker. Lets get that vote back on IAI.

Oh it's there now.

Do you have any reason to assume the person who targets you wouldn't die immediately? I'm just interested in why you would mention it.

Well this is a tad bit suspicious.

I asked because normally pgo's kill whoever target them immediately. I wanted to know why acosmist wasn't sure whether they would die immediately or not. The fact that he kills because of a disease (aka foxdie) means a delayed kill could make sense, which leads me to believe acosmist.

Furthermore he sometimes doesn't respond to direct questions, for whatever reason, which gives people easy ammunition to throw at him (ie "why didn't you answer my question in xxxx?").

Are you a supporter of Mitt Romney?

I don't see what this has to do with anything, but no. I live in Australia though so I don't really give all that many fucks.

Multiball is catchy but its a stupid term.

Where did that term come from out of interest?

[ThAdmiral]

just in case the mod doesn't see it because its buried in the middle of the post-

vote: iaminnocent

[Zoroaster]

I don't see what this has to do with anything, but no. I live in Australia though so I don't really give all that many fucks.

What I'm trying to imply is that you're saying that you shouldn't consider direct quotations as ammo because they're apparently easy shots.

Dunno why I said Mitt Romney though. That was dumb.

[ThAdmiral]

I don't really understand what you are getting at.

What I meant by the above quote, which was "Furthermore he sometimes doesn't respond to direct questions, for whatever reason, which gives people easy ammunition to throw at him (ie "why didn't you answer my question in xxxx?")", is that he has been displaying behaviour which, although not

necessarily

scummy in itself, can be easily used to make him

look

scummy, and provide more easy reasons for people to attack him.

[Zoroaster]

Why isn't that scummy?

[ThAdmiral]

As I explained it is evidence of poor/sub-optimal play far more than it is evidence of scumminess.