Mini 927: Alabama Correctional Facility - OVER

[DrippingGoofball]

Wrong order! Order players first, then assign a position. It has to fit nicely in my Excel worksheet. Try again.

I don't get you DGB. How is pwnman's wrong yet mine is right?

Gah! Yours is wrong, too!

[DrippingGoofball]

YOUR CURRENT RANKING IN LINE

3.0 Ellibereth
3.3 Minineko
4.0 SpyreX
6.5 UncertainKitten
6.5 Jahudo
7.3 HackerHuck
7.3 Super Awesome Mega Pimp!
7.5 Grimmy
7.8 Max
7.8 Cobalt
8.0 farside22
9.3 pwnman

[Cobalt]

Wait, so we have to assign a position to every player every time? We can't just shove one person?

[DrippingGoofball]

Wait, so we have to assign a position to every player every time? We can't just shove one person?

No. It's like a domino....

[farside22]

trying to not get pushed to the back here.

Shove:
UncertainKitten 9
Minineko 7
Ellibereth 3
Jahudo 11
SpyreX 5
Max 4
farside22 1
HackerHuck 8
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 2
Cobalt 10
pwnman 6
Grimmy 12

[Cobalt]

In that case I don't think random shoving is a good idea. Why risk messing up the averages later on when we decide who to lynch?

[farside22]

In that case I don't think random shoving is a good idea. Why risk messing up the averages later on when we decide who to lynch?

I suggested this earlier and the shoving match just continued anyways.

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

Your new shoving order replaces the old one completely.

Random shoving has no negative consequences, just like in real life.

[SpyreX]

Yea its just like complicated voting. Random shoving doesn't hurt anything.

I still want to understand the leap from "I have no win condition listed" to "I am third party / sk"

[HackerHuck]

Yea its just like complicated voting. Random shoving doesn't hurt anything."

This is pretty wrong. Unless we end up bunching up people together, it gets progressively harder to move people up or down the list the more we do it.

[farside22]

Yea its just like complicated voting. Random shoving doesn't hurt anything."

This is pretty wrong. Unless we end up bunching up people together, it gets progressively harder to move people up or down the list the more we do it.

This ^ and in a 2 week time we need to get most people to agree with the person who needs to be pushed down to the point of lynch.

[SpyreX]

Your new shoving order replaces the old one completely.

So, see, if the idea is SpyreX is town then when people who had been all willy nilly start giving me ones and twos then I shift.

The previous "WACKY HIJINKS" ones don't hurt anything because they are replaced with the new ones.

Unless the idea is "don't ever, ever, ever make a shove order" then random shoving doesn't, in fact, hurt anything once it moves to real shoving.

Like this:

UncertainKitten 2
Minineko 3
Ellibereth 4
Jahudo 5
SpyreX 1
Max 12
farside22 7
HackerHuck 11
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 9
Cobalt 10
pwnman 8
Grimmy 6

[HackerHuck]

Ok, maybe I just figured out what you mean. Is it that the current shove ranking is only given a value of '1' in weighting against the new shove order? Here's what I mean...

Hacker Huck - 7.3

Hacker Huck 8

Hacker Huck is now 7.7 - =round((7.3+8)/2,1)

Hacker Huck 11

Hacker Huck is now 9.3 - =round((7.7+11)/2,1)

That seems like it's pretty easy for one person to really manipulate who gets lynched.

[SpyreX]

Considering nothing happens for two weeks and by then everyone will have some shoving votes out the average gives each person the same weight (unless someone 12's themselves or something hijinkily)

[SpyreX]

And I'm PRETTY sure the average just replaces whatever vote set switches with the new one and recompiles via Excel.

So

[farside22]

Spyrex math hurts my head. I'm just going by what the mod says especially has spyrex just posted a list that numbers are incorrect.

[SpyreX]

Gimme a couple hours after some OTHER game madness ends and I'll re-explain. I promise though that the shoves now are no worse than random votes.

[pwnman]

Shove:
UncertainKitten 9
Minineko 7
Ellibereth 3
Jahudo 11
SpyreX 5
Max 4
farside22 2
HackerHuck 8
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 2
Cobalt 10
pwnman 1
Grimmy 12

[Super Awesome Mega Zord!]

Yea its just like complicated voting. Random shoving doesn't hurt anything."

This is pretty wrong. Unless we end up bunching up people together, it gets progressively harder to move people up or down the list the more we do it.

This ^ and in a 2 week time we need to get most people to agree with the person who needs to be pushed down to the point of lynch.

That's right, we're on a deadline. That means we need to get to work

right now

. No loafing!

Shove:
UncertainKitten 10
Minineko 6
Ellibereth 2
Jahudo 9
SpyreX 4
Max 3
farside22 7
HackerHuck 11
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 1
Cobalt 12
pwnman 5
Grimmy 8

pwnman: your list has two 2's and no 6.

[Jahudo]

Shove:
farside22 2
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 2

What's this? You're giving them special treatment, eh?

Let's see if its reciprocal:

Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 2
pwnman 6

farside22 11
pwnman 5

Not so much. But farside and SAMP shoving me to the back... I daresay that is quite rude of you!

Shove:
UncertainKitten 2
Minineko 7
Ellibereth 9
Jahudo 1
SpyreX 4
Max 6
farside22 11
HackerHuck 8
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 12
Cobalt 3
pwnman 10
Grimmy 5

[UncertainKitten]

Shove DGB 100000000000000000000000

Totally obv scum.

Ok, fine, since this is an odd set up, and there's only room for one kitty:

UncertainKitten - 1
Minineko - 12
Ellibereth - 5
Jahudo - 3
SpyreX - 2
Max - 7
farside22 - 4
HackerHuck - 9
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! - 11
Cobalt - 10
pwnman - 8
Grimmy - 6

[pwnman]

Oops!

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: 42

Shove:
UncertainKitten 9
Minineko 7
Ellibereth 3
Jahudo 11
SpyreX 5
Max 4
farside22 2
HackerHuck 8
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! 6
Cobalt 10
pwnman 1
Grimmy 12

[Grimmy]

UncertainKitten - 7
Minineko - 9
Ellibereth -10
Jahudo - 6
SpyreX - 8
Max - 3
farside22 - 11
HackerHuck -5
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! - 4
Cobalt - 2
pwnman - 12
Grimmy - 1

Until we get solid momentum at scumhunting, I refuse to let myself get pushed further back in the line.

"An eye for an eye leaves everyone half blind"
"An eye for an eye brings good business to the eyepatch salesman"

Grimmy 4-20

[farside22]

Is anyone going to comment or will we continue this random shoving for 1st place?

UncertainKitten - 3
Minineko - 12
Ellibereth - 6
Jahudo - 5
SpyreX - 4
Max - 7
farside22 - 1
HackerHuck - 9
Super Awesome Mega Pimp! - 11
Cobalt - 10
pwnman - 8
Grimmy - 2

[Jahudo]

pwnman looks a little suspicious already.

Oops!

Why did you move SAMP from 2 to 6? Why not move farside, or make them 2, 3? And what's up with declaring your first shove a random one, but then coming back with a second shove with no reasoning? If its not random, then what's the reason?

Is anyone going to comment or will we continue this random shoving for 1st place?

Why? Is there nothing you see that you can comment on?