Mafia 98 - Apennine Mafia (Game Over)

[Battle Mage]

I've been told off for voting SensFan because people claimed it was his playstyle. But if his playstyle means willing to be unhelpful, inconsistent and scummy I'm totally willing to lynch him.

Actually, my playstyle is pretty much the opposite of what you've described.
My pay in this game is also nowhere near what you've described, though I admit I'm behind my usual standard. Other priorities, and I don't give a flying fuck if you want to lynch me because of it. If it weren't for the fact this was a YawMod game, I'd have requested replacement N0, and absolutely nothing that has happened since has put any more want in me to play this game with people like you.

^5. I still like Sens as town at this point.

BM

Why?

He seems genuinely annoyed at the game moreso than caring to participate actively. It's a view i can really relate to.
It reads very protown to me.

BM

[Zachrulez]

He seems genuinely annoyed at the game moreso than caring to participate actively. It's a view i can really relate to.
It reads very protown to me.

BM

It's not pro town. We can have a disagreement over how scummy his attitude is in the game, but I disagree with his attitude toward the game being pro town, but his attitude is certainly anti-town.

[Zachrulez]

He seems genuinely annoyed at the game moreso than caring to participate actively. It's a view i can really relate to.
It reads very protown to me.

BM

It's not pro town. We can have a disagreement over how scummy his attitude is in the game, but I disagree with his attitude toward the game being pro town,

but

his attitude is certainly anti-town.

Striking out a but that doesn't belong in the post.

[GIEFF]

No. Your case doesnt make me think KMD is scum.

So when you said this, did you really mean to say "Your case doesn't make me think KMD is

town

?"

If so, then what did you mean by this?

Was considering a KMD vote, until i read this ^.

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And yes, these questions do absolutely no good unless you think I may be scum.

I thought the whole purpose of the game was to try and determine whether you are scum or not? Do you consider yourself confirmed town?

BM

No. Zach just said recently that he thought I was town. Answers to questions like the ones Zach is asking can help scum, but if some good comes out of the answers (i.e. Zach is more sure of my alignment), then it's fine.

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And yes, Zach, I do think that Spy's vote in Post 2081 was super scummy. Both because his previous post was about how his #1-scum-target DDD was on the KMD wagon, and also because he tried to blame ME for his vote. And he hasn't posted in the thread since Thursday, 5 hours after his vote. Hard to say if he's active elsewhere on the site though, as search is down.

[Battle Mage]

No. Your case doesnt make me think KMD is scum.

So when you said this, did you really mean to say "Your case doesn't make me think KMD is

town

?"

If so, then what did you mean by this?

Was considering a KMD vote, until i read this ^.

No. And erm, no.

BM

[Battle Mage]

He seems genuinely annoyed at the game moreso than caring to participate actively. It's a view i can really relate to.
It reads very protown to me.

BM

It's not pro town. We can have a disagreement over how scummy his attitude is in the game, but I disagree with his attitude toward the game being pro town, but his attitude is certainly anti-town.

Im not talking about how good a player he is. I think he is town.

BM

[GIEFF]

BM, I am confused. I made a case on KMD. You said that you were thinking about KMD, but seeing my case convinced you not to vote. Right?

Why did my case convince you not to vote.




Also, I went throught he arduous effort of google-searching Spyrex - he has just 4 posts in other games since his last one here, and I just saw his sig says he is V/LA for the weekend. When he does return (which is hopefully soon), I would like for him to answer:

Why did you try to make it look like you had no choice but to follow us onto KMD?

[Yaw]

Vote Count:

SensFan (3): Benmage, Vi, Zachrulez
Battle Mage (3): alexhans, Kmd4390, GIEFF
Kmd4390 (2): SensFan, Debonair Danny DiPietro
Debonair Danny DiPietro (1): Battle Mage

Not Voting: jammer, SpyreX

6 to lynch

[SpyreX]

Alright, back on my feetish and trying to get back into this.

First off: Sensfan has been playing the exact same way all game. Why all of a sudden did it become the coolest of kids to powerbomb him? Especially when, god forbids, DDD cant get a lynch moving on him?

Good lord when half the reasons for the votes are fabrications it makes me really, REALLY weary of that wagon.

With that said: The defense of "got nothing on me coppa" means absolutely nothing. Not playing in the game is anti-town. Pick it up or get lynched. This is the callout.

So, onto other things:

And yes, Zach, I do think that Spy's vote in Post 2081 was super scummy. Both because his previous post was about how his #1-scum-target DDD was on the KMD wagon, and also because he tried to blame ME for his vote. And he hasn't posted in the thread since Thursday, 5 hours after his vote. Hard to say if he's active elsewhere on the site though, as search is down.

I haven't been active for a bit. Search going down makes that much harder.

DDD IS my number 1 scum pick but, get this, sure doesn't look like its happening. However, your case on KMD DID have some merit.

And, yes, when DDD goes from largest number of votes to me living alone in the forest I'm going to take note at why that happened. You've been very apologetic for DDD's play.

BUT, no more feelings or any other business. I'm going back to my roots:

Vote: DDD

He is independently more scummy than the other lurkers / suck-a-ducks - especially this magical Sensfan wagon.
My stance on the mages is clear.

[SensFan]

With that said: The defense of "got nothing on me coppa" means absolutely nothing. Not playing in the game is anti-town. Pick it up or get lynched. This is the callout.

But...there STILL hasn't been anything I can defend against...

[Benmage]

To me seemed he was posting loads to seem town, instead of actually finding scum with any of it.

That is ridiculous. We haven't once lynched my preferred lynch-target. How do you know if I'm catching scum or not?

You flip flop so much. Whose your ideal lynch target. Who do you want to realistically see lynched today?

I am liking a SF or DDD lynch more at this moment.

Ugh if he wants these two lynched maybe they’re town.

@SpryeX DDD seems to be playing the same way all game. Useless like SF.

Lynch preference:
Jammer<<< I totally believe he’s scum, and want to lynch him.
2nd lynch desire would probably be Gieff at this juncture.

Realistic lynch target SensFan.

[SpyreX]

Of course not

because you haven't been active in the game.

Which makes any cases boil down to that point.

[SpyreX]

Sensfan is developing a bad case of the DDD's - ben you are right DDD has been lurkin' snipa ready to post at some heat and that is what I am calling out.

[GIEFF]

So why don't the DDD cases boil down to the same point, Spyrex?

[SensFan]

Benmage. This is your last warning.

Either explain in detail exactly why you feel I have been "useless", or

shut the fuck up.

[GIEFF]

Easy....

[GIEFF]

Sens, I feel as if you aren't making any new cases this game. You complain about too much posting, you complain about nk-speculation, but you haven't helped us find scum. You quicklynched a townie yesterday without even reading the thread, ending discussion.

None of this is useful to the town. I don't know if that is what Benmage meant, but it is how I feel.

[SensFan]

Your continued insistence that I "quicklynched a townie yesterday without even reading the thread" is bullshit.

First of all, you know I favour quicklynches as Town, since you've seen me do it.
Secondly, you say that as if we knew Cephir was a Townie before he was lynched.
Thirdly, you're putting the blame on me, when there were 6 other people on the wagon, equally to blame.
Fourthly, I had read and posted earlier in the day.
Fifth, ending discussion was a godsend. We've had far too much of it.

[Benmage]

Benmage. This is your last warning.

Either explain in detail exactly why you feel I have been "useless", or

shut the fuck up.

If you're trying to make a case against me, you need to actually make a fucking case!

Seriously, that's how Mafia is played: you find someone scummy, you need to make a case

! You can't just say "You're Scum unless you prove otherwise!"

Show me where you've made a case against someone this game.

[GIEFF]

First of all, you know I favour quicklynches as Town, since you've seen me do it.
Secondly, you say that as if we knew Cephir was a Townie before he was lynched.
Thirdly, you're putting the blame on me, when there were 6 other people on the wagon, equally to blame.
Fourthly, I had read and posted earlier in the day.
Fifth, ending discussion was a godsend. We've had far too much of it.

OK this is good, thanks Sens.

1. I know you favor quicklynches when you think that person is scum. But you admitted Cephrir was no better than random. And earlier in the thread I said you may try to hide behind that meta to get in a quicklynch.

2. We didn't know that Cephrir is a townie, but I didn't like the lynch, and could have possibly convinced others if given more time.

3. No, they are NOT equally to blame. Others on the wagon have said they did not want to see a lynch happen that fast, and were surprised you did it.

4. This is wrong. You had NOT read and posted earlier in the day. You voted on Wednesday, saying:

Unvote, Vote: Cephir

Haven't read a post since my last post.

See you all tomorrow.

Your last post was on Tuesday, about 19 hours prior.

5. Ending discussion was not good. The discussion was about the viability of a Cephrir lynch, and obviously cutting that short was not a good idea. We could have replaced Cephrir, and gotten another active player into the game.



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You said "see you all tomorrow" after hammering Cephrir. Did you think it very unlikely that you would be nightkilled?

[SensFan]

I'll respond to the rest later, GIEFF, but in my timezone both the hammer and my previous post were on Wednesday, though 19 hours apart.

And yes. I guarantee you I won't be NK'd this game.

[Benmage]

The silence/ignoring makes me assume he's content with me continuing to call him useless.

[GIEFF]

The silence/ignoring is probably to stop himself getting modkilled.


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Understood about the time-zone Sens, thanks.


Have you made any cases on anybody in this game? I don't see any.


Why didn't you think you could be NK'd on night 2? What if Cephrir was scum - wouldn't it be likely that his buddies would kill you off?

[SensFan]

Benmage, stop being a dumbass.
If I don't have time to respond to the person that's making a case against me, I sure as hell don't have time to respond to the person who's asking me to prove I'm Town, and refusing to show why he thinks I'm Scum.

[Zachrulez]

I'll respond to the rest later, GIEFF, but in my timezone both the hammer and my previous post were on Wednesday, though 19 hours apart.

And yes. I guarantee you I won't be NK'd this game.

This comment alone should warrant a lynch.