Tales of You (Endgame)

[Yulia Jue]

Votecount 1-20

With 17 players alive, it will take 9 votes to lynch or nolynch.

PeregrineV (2): Kagura, AngryPidgeon
MastinSSK (5): CupcakePanda, Carbon Fiber, The Fox and the Hound, Yukari Yakumo, Just Sheep Us
Just Sheep Us (2): orcinus_theoriginal, Red Gyarados
AngryPidgeon (3): Lord Business, mastinSSK, Rancid Broderick Drake

Not Voting (4): Mac , PeregrineV, Titan, Breaskfast with Stalin, Clyton

With 17 players alive, deadline is set for 18 days: (expired on 2014-04-18 00:01:39)

Mod note: Game has been moved over to the new private topics feature. Please also note the deadline.

[AngryPidgeon]

For myself, I am aware I have a tendency to see his play as scummy lately regardless of his alignment. I'm cautious about the read.

But you don't actually have any reads other than ?mastin?

Are you OPPOSED to a PV lynch? Im p sure hes scum here, he doesnt look town at all.

[AngryPidgeon]

PeregrineV (1): Kagura
PeregrineV (1): AngryPidgeon

[Yulia Jue]

PeregrineV (1): Kagura
PeregrineV (1): AngryPidgeon

Because fuck you, that's why.


(Fixed)

[CarbonFiber]

Let's please NOT wagon PV. I'll even bear the noise if it means one of Mastin or AP get lynched today but it would seriously suck to have all this scum theater end in a PV mislynch.

How does anyone else not see that through all the fog and the noise and the junk, Mastin and AP's main goal has been to get a lynch that is not them.

I'm going to head out but I'll try and articulate why I feel PV lynch is bad when I get back.

~ F-16

[The Fox and the Hound]

Let's please NOT wagon PV. I'll even bear the noise if it means one of Mastin or AP get lynched today but it would seriously suck to have all this scum theater end in a PV mislynch.

How does anyone else not see that through all the fog and the noise and the junk, Mastin and AP's main goal has been to get a lynch that is not them.

I'm going to head out but I'll try and articulate why I feel PV lynch is bad when I get back.

~ F-16

Have you already articulated why you think it's scum theater, or is that as much of a Bat Deduction as it looks like it is?

Just based on how shitty a job they seem to be doing of actually trying to get each other lynched? 'Cause that doesn't quite seem like a thing to me. You'd have to be arguing the point of their spat is to get the pressure off mastin, which it doesn't do at all?

I agree about PV though, I liked the page he showed up for, and I don't ordinarily like anything from him ever.

[Breakfast With Sandy]

Also could you tell me what posts give you the impression that Kagura is town?

pretty much every borkpost in the thread.

[The Fox and the Hound]

(Brief iso says you said it was a possibility a couple pages ago- but has something changed to make you feel more strongly?
While I'm at it, 2041 is a townpost, but I already knew you were town so it's not that relevant)

[AngryPidgeon]

I agree about PV though, I liked the page he showed up for, and I don't ordinarily like anything from him ever.

What on earth did you like about it? And ya I mostly agree about Cf. Calling mastin and me scum/scum is really just....like...no? How could someone think that.

P-edit:
Comment on PV then? Are you considering any wagons other than mastin/PV? Cause if not, I could use some support on my PV wagon. Anything I can do to troll CF really.

[CarbonFiber]

Independent scum reads on both of them.

Obviously, that's me speculating but it doesn't matter today. What I care about is we lynch one of them and not deadline wagon PV. I agree with you regarding PV. I liked the questions he asked me while tracking down my Cupcake read and it is something that I had left unexplained at the point he asked.

~ F-16

[Natirasha]

I plan on being on after 10p your time ffery. Working right now.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Either 2015 was a scum post or F16 is really bad at mafia

I am not sure which one is more likely

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

I'm here ffery but I haven't had a chance to sit down and mafiamafia since Friday.


-muffin

Ffery can I cash in the trust card from Song Contest to get you are to see Mastin is town.

Both muffin and I are 100% certain on this read, and we correctly read her as scum in both the Open and Attack on Titan. The downright fact is, if we are wrong on this, we are collectively awful.

Muffin and in are already at our wits end with this player list so please please please trust us.

Also f-16 is scum.

F-16
AP
DespBro

At minimum two scum in that list.

Error

-Kaze

I plan on being on after 10p your time ffery. Working right now.

Enough alt slips please, Muffin. You're not even signing half your posts anymore

-Nati

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Can a meta player link me to another town game where F16 has made this little sense?

Because outside of 169 I've never seen him as town and his reads are so nonsensical that I'm having trouble seeing this coming from a town player

[CarbonFiber]

Obviously, that's impossible considering it is a loaded question.

~ F-16

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

Hey, F16, since you're around and reading.

Walk me through why you think AP vs mastin is possibly "scum theatre" or "bussing" - or if you're not going to do that, walk me through where the scum reads on them are coming from without mentioning the recent "noise" (because you were scum reading - or at least not town reading - both of them well before that)

While you're at it, talk about your read on me and the role I play in this

I don't want to see you doing anything else in your next posts

[CarbonFiber]

If you are town, we both have AP as scum. The only thing about my reads you disagree on is that I am calling you scum as well as one of your townreads. I don't think you are transparent enough to expect everyone to read you right. I also don't think disagreeing with you (or anyone else) on a read means that person is bad at the game.

~ F-16

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

If MastinSSK flips scum, I think you should at least re-evaluate Rancid on D2 given his interactions with MastinSSK.

Especially interested in this

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

I think you're bad (or at least playing an awful game) not because you disagree with me but because I don't see anything sensible in the way you're approaching the game at the moment

I think I specifically mentioned how nonsensical your posts are

Nothing to do with whether or not we agree on reads. I am aware that your poe list (before you removed PV) was similar to mine

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

I also think I am rather transparent, especially in this game, but even if I weren't, since you're a meta-heavy player, walk me through why you think my attitude towards Mastin here makes any sense from scum-me.

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

I mean, I'm fully aware that some people have difficulty telling the difference between my scum and town games, but there are certain markers that differentiate the two, and if you cannot tell the difference, then I'd like to know where you're getting your scum read on me from

[MastinSSK]

If MastinSSK flips scum, I think you should at least re-evaluate Rancid on D2 given his interactions with MastinSSK.

And WHEN I flip town...

...You do what?

(I actually did have a thought when driving. Of maybe-he's-actually-scum. But I told myself, "Screw it. Right, wrong, doesn't matter. Stick with the townread anyway.)

[CarbonFiber]

Muffin, I am not going to convince you that you are scum. It is a pointless exercise/spam.

Let's assume you are town and I'll try to figure the game from there and see if it makes sense. Mastin-town. You don't disagree with the majority of my reads. AP and BRO/Desp are your scumreads apparently. Who else then? PV?

~ F-16

[Rancid Broderick Drake]

You go through so much effort to write town cases.

Put half that effort into writing your scum cases please.

It's all fine and dandy that you're putting effort into town cases (which no one is really going to challenge because even if they think you're wrong or looking at the wrong things, there's nothing to really challenge you on) and I am aware you're using PoE in this game, but you've now very clearly stated three scum reads. Three scum reads that, even if I didn't know you were wrong about me, and even if I didn't think you were wrong about Mastin, I would still be scratching my head trying to figure out how you came to those conclusions.

So explain those reads in even half the detail you went into with your town reads, please.

Really don't give two shits about why you think PV is town, it will literally be a waste of everyone's time to read it since it's bound to be bullshit anyway. Expand on your SCUM READS, now.

[Cabd]

Mine?