Mini Normal 2335: Rainbows (Day 3)

[RationalMadman]

Spoiler: Hu Tao replying to Robbnva which is nearly the entirety of her contribution to the game other than townreading me.

VOTE: hu Tao

But why teddy bear?

VOTE: hu Tao

But why teddy bear?

"WHY ME" I found scum Bs and Gs

Honestly I don't feel like you have tried to engage yet, your content is been lacking so it is a good place to start.

Fry me

And am I the only one you think this of? We are only a few pages in. If not why single me out?

Fry me

And am I the only one you think this of? We are only a few pages in. If not why single me out?

yeah the old why me fry me, that was immediately what I was reminded of. BUt I haven't played mafia in like 4 years so maybe it is old school lol

You were the one who stood out to me the most, there are others who are attempting to enguage with others in a meaningful way. I am not a fan of Not Mafia, but we have a past and I always scum read them and they are one of the ones who could really push my buttons so for now I am just going to monitor from a distance.

Anyone else?

Fry me

And am I the only one you think this of? We are only a few pages in. If not why single me out?

yeah the old why me fry me, that was immediately what I was reminded of. BUt I haven't played mafia in like 4 years so maybe it is old school lol

You were the one who stood out to me the most, there are others who are attempting to enguage with others in a meaningful way. I am not a fan of Not Mafia, but we have a past and I always scum read them and they are one of the ones who could really push my buttons so for now I am just going to monitor from a distance.

Anyone else?

not that immediately jumps out at me like you did for some reason. Eventually I will go back and re-read but so far, you are a good vote. Your only game related activity so far is to question the person voting you, you aren't doing anything to progress the game nor are you scum hunting.

I question when someone makes a potential questionable move as you did. No need for me to force myself to fake scum hunting 4 pages in, I'm not scum.

I question when someone makes a potential questionable move as you did. No need for me to force myself to fake scum hunting 4 pages in, I'm not scum.

is my vote questionable because I voted you or for another reason?

Vote since it was singling me out for things others are doing too

I question when someone makes a potential questionable move as you did. No need for me to force myself to fake scum hunting 4 pages in, I'm not scum.

is my vote questionable because I voted you or for another reason?

Vote since it was singling me out for things others are doing too

who are these others?

People who have barely posted

Why would I need to? Most of the players aren't making posts to advance the game, its barely 5 pages in. So I still don't see that as a valid reason to vote me. But, I see this as not worth talking over since it could be playstyle difference and not worth getting distracted over.

I am not town reading you just for that, your play overall just feels town to me. It's day 1 so reads aren't going to be that strong, anyway. I am also rusty and I am not really used to developing town reads, but I am trying to not fall back into my old habits. That is why I have essentially ignored NM and not going as aggressive on Hu Tao as I would have in the past.

Can you send a scum game of yours? Even if it's awhile ago.

no but you can certainly look though all my accounts and find games. you can find a list of my alts in the ban thread

I'm not doing all that

This is why it is presumed you're Vs Robbnva. I say presumed as you call it a presumption. To most it's a conclusion.

However maybe it's a towntell if not straight township that you don't realise you've been primarily if not entirely pushing on Robbnva or against his push on you. I feel scum HT would clock that and not think to deny it's happening.

[RationalMadman]

Townslip* ship is autocorrect ffs

[RationalMadman]

Nobody can be bothered to dig through 14 accounts where your latest has 7.7k characters worth. That's just ridiculous to demand.

I meant posts not characters. Brainfart.

[RationalMadman]

Spoiler: Robbnva

man I forget how slow games on this site can be. Some sites have 48 hour days which is too fast but 2 weeks is definitely too slow.

Then help to end it faster.

By getting a good vote reasoning and pushing the wagon.

Pressure is good, rushing isn't. Pressure can end days faster if done right.

I don't think we're going to get anywhere as long as this discussion keeps going tbh. You're kind of the center of attention and everyone is either just spectating, commentating, or trying to challenge your strategy, and there isn't much alignment-indicative content being made because of that. I think it would be best to drop the argument altogether and focus on giving reads and making a serious vote.

What do you make of the current game state? Do you think scum is trying to lay low right now? Do you think Robb vs Hu Tao is TvS or TvT?

I don't get how I'm meant to guess that.

All 3 could be lurking absolutely but 2 of 3 could be (semi)active. No way to tell yet.

I outed my reads already, did you miss it?

HT I nullread until her not realising she's been after Robbnva. Now she leans Town. The reason I nullread her beforehand is she's operating in a strange way Vs her typical games. She's frequently active in this Normal games section (which is the primary section I like to skimread games of on the rare occasion I bother with this site) and usually waits until later into a DP to attack someone.

Her not registering that she has been defensive and inadvertently attacking Robbnva's towncred is a towntell to me since maybe she just felt a strong urge to defend.

From some things I have seen of Jackson Virgo, he is active no matter what his alignment is. That's a sheer given. Others are townreading him too readily, he'd do all he's done so far as Scum. However, I think he is Town because what he specifically said in response to my no elimination post is something that leaves me open to reply and scumtell or towntell based on how I react to it. This neutrality is how I see his townself acting there more than his scumself, for sure.

[RationalMadman]

I scumread Robbnva so far but it's not a strong one. I have no strong scumreads yet, I reckon HY Vs Robb is TvS or TvT both viable. SvS is obviously unlikely especially as HT led to Robb revealing his other accounts, that seems too naturally flowing to bs SvS interactions.

[RationalMadman]

HT not HY

[Hu Tao]

Spoiler: Hu Tao replying to Robbnva which is nearly the entirety of her contribution to the game other than townreading me.

VOTE: hu Tao

But why teddy bear?

VOTE: hu Tao

But why teddy bear?

"WHY ME" I found scum Bs and Gs

Honestly I don't feel like you have tried to engage yet, your content is been lacking so it is a good place to start.

Fry me

And am I the only one you think this of? We are only a few pages in. If not why single me out?

Fry me

And am I the only one you think this of? We are only a few pages in. If not why single me out?

yeah the old why me fry me, that was immediately what I was reminded of. BUt I haven't played mafia in like 4 years so maybe it is old school lol

You were the one who stood out to me the most, there are others who are attempting to enguage with others in a meaningful way. I am not a fan of Not Mafia, but we have a past and I always scum read them and they are one of the ones who could really push my buttons so for now I am just going to monitor from a distance.

Anyone else?

Fry me

And am I the only one you think this of? We are only a few pages in. If not why single me out?

yeah the old why me fry me, that was immediately what I was reminded of. BUt I haven't played mafia in like 4 years so maybe it is old school lol

You were the one who stood out to me the most, there are others who are attempting to enguage with others in a meaningful way. I am not a fan of Not Mafia, but we have a past and I always scum read them and they are one of the ones who could really push my buttons so for now I am just going to monitor from a distance.

Anyone else?

not that immediately jumps out at me like you did for some reason. Eventually I will go back and re-read but so far, you are a good vote. Your only game related activity so far is to question the person voting you, you aren't doing anything to progress the game nor are you scum hunting.

I question when someone makes a potential questionable move as you did. No need for me to force myself to fake scum hunting 4 pages in, I'm not scum.

I question when someone makes a potential questionable move as you did. No need for me to force myself to fake scum hunting 4 pages in, I'm not scum.

is my vote questionable because I voted you or for another reason?

Vote since it was singling me out for things others are doing too

I question when someone makes a potential questionable move as you did. No need for me to force myself to fake scum hunting 4 pages in, I'm not scum.

is my vote questionable because I voted you or for another reason?

Vote since it was singling me out for things others are doing too

who are these others?

People who have barely posted

Why would I need to? Most of the players aren't making posts to advance the game, its barely 5 pages in. So I still don't see that as a valid reason to vote me. But, I see this as not worth talking over since it could be playstyle difference and not worth getting distracted over.

I am not town reading you just for that, your play overall just feels town to me. It's day 1 so reads aren't going to be that strong, anyway. I am also rusty and I am not really used to developing town reads, but I am trying to not fall back into my old habits. That is why I have essentially ignored NM and not going as aggressive on Hu Tao as I would have in the past.

Can you send a scum game of yours? Even if it's awhile ago.

no but you can certainly look though all my accounts and find games. you can find a list of my alts in the ban thread

I'm not doing all that

This is why it is presumed you're Vs Robbnva. I say presumed as you call it a presumption. To most it's a conclusion.

However maybe it's a towntell if not straight township that you don't realise you've been primarily if not entirely pushing on Robbnva or against his push on you. I feel scum HT would clock that and not think to deny it's happening.

Understandable. Usually when people say TvS or TvT it's 2 people scumreading each other. I'm just trying to be able to read Robb so I don't see it that way.

[Robbnva]

Nobody can be bothered to dig through 14 accounts where your latest has 7.7k characters worth. That's just ridiculous to demand.

Well I wasn’t demanding anyone do it. Hu was the one expecting me to do it and I certainly wasn’t going to help her meta dive me, especially when I’m not a fan of meta anyway.

[Robbnva]

@halfasleep: why does [you as scum] apply to rational? rational has a very noticeably distinct playstyle.

155 seems fabricated. It really feels like she's deciding the read direction first and then finding evidence to support it rather than looking at behavior and then deciding what alignment it indicates
this argument doesn't feel like an argument a townie makes

So why not vote half? Or me? Since you scum read me also.

[Charles510]

Page 8 already? Let me catch up later today and come up with some reads.

[Robbnva]

Mod, can we get prods on Jackson Virgo and KayJayQue?

Jackson hasn't posted on over 48 hours and KayJay is 7 minutes away from being 48 hours.

[JacksonVirgo]

No you

[JacksonVirgo]

Just finished work catching up now

[JacksonVirgo]

I feel personally insulted every time someone says my name with a space

[Robbnva]

My apologies. I’ll try and remember going forward. Just a force of habit.

[Hu Tao]

Pretty sure we are waiting on a replacement anyway

[Robbnva]

Who else is being replaced? We’ve already had one replacement.

[halfasleep]

can't read shit in this game lol. ming feels town to me but that's all i got.

[T3]

RM is town for reasons Roden stated

[Hu Tao]

Blackstar hasn't posted yet. I'm assuming they are being replaced

[T3]

Halfasleep’s vote of RM is bad faith

I don’t really see any critical thinking ig

[T3]

@halfasleep: why does [you as scum] apply to rational? rational has a very noticeably distinct playstyle.

155 seems fabricated. It really feels like she's deciding the read direction first and then finding evidence to support it rather than looking at behavior and then deciding what alignment it indicates
this argument doesn't feel like an argument a townie makes

Agreed
Although, this type of read isn’t that uncommon among town, like the after-the fact justification

[Hu Tao]

I agree it's a bad vote. But maybe too bad to be scum

[LoveKilling]

Its an early vote by Halfasleep, she might not think this is townie enough to remove to early vote on HMM.

[BlackStar]

Hi, sorry that I haven't posted until now. I never got a link to the game so I didn't know that it started