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Post Post #1650 (ISO) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:35 pm

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I'd add it doesn't speculate in my role what happens if I hide with anti-town players, therefore I presume I can hide with whoever I choose as long as they don't die that night . . . I guess that's why its called the blind beggar.
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Post Post #1651 (ISO) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:38 pm

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Thok, are you in favor of a mass claim at this point?
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Post Post #1652 (ISO) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:52 pm

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Kison wrote:Thok, are you in favor of a mass claim at this point?
I'm meh about it. I can see why it might be a good idea.
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Post Post #1653 (ISO) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:04 pm

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@theodor-why didn't you consider hiding with PBug, who was an unlikely target (as Akbar was claimed to be protecting him)?

@Battle Mage-can you confirm or deny theodor's story?
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Post Post #1654 (ISO) » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:29 pm

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Thok wrote:
@Battle Mage-can you confirm or deny theodor's story?
How could BM do that? By saying 'No, I died?'
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Post Post #1655 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:45 am

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The Fonz wrote:
Thok wrote:
@Battle Mage-can you confirm or deny theodor's story?
How could BM do that? By saying 'No, I died?'
He can't refute it with any definite proof, but he can tell us whether or not he received any sort of indication as to whether or not Theopor hid with him.
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Post Post #1656 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:50 am

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I suppose, thinking about it, there are certain things he could say... cue BM.
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Post Post #1657 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:23 am

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aww, its nice that Theo chose to hide with me :)
unfortunately, i recieved absolutely no indication of such an event.

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Post Post #1658 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:21 am

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Did you yourself hear the cackle or see the witch?
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Post Post #1659 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:07 am

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Thok wrote:@theodor-why didn't you consider hiding with PBug, who was an unlikely target (as Akbar was claimed to be protecting him)?

@Battle Mage-can you confirm or deny theodor's story?
I considered it, aswell as going nowhere . . . however with at least two killing teams still involved (only one kill attempt mind by the looks of things). I didn't fancy second guessing the scums actions, plus we had a cop in n9v so again couldn't be certain of who Akbar protected and what not. I felt BM was the most unlikely night kill target hence why I stayed there.

Seperately Thok was last night the first night you saw the broom?
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Post Post #1660 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:30 am

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theopor_COD wrote:Seperately Thok was last night the first night you saw the broom?
I've (well my role) has seen it before. XReyoX mentioned this before I replaced him. I do not feel like revealing exactly when I've seen the broom (although if one of Kison/PBug requests that info, I would be willing to tell them).
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Post Post #1661 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:05 am

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Do we think that Bird1111 was scum based on his death?
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Post Post #1662 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:09 am

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I do.
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Post Post #1663 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:57 pm

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@Kison
Good to know I was right on day 1 about you and Pbug being connected, even if it wasn't a scummy connection.

After seeing bird's name come up blue, I no longer believe the color codes have any bearing on roles. It seems like the colors are only relevant to the time of death. If you die during the day, you come up blue. If you die at night, you come up black.
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Post Post #1664 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:02 pm

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The thing is that Phoebus was extremely clear with Mastermind of Sin's alignment. I don't see any reason why that would be clear, and people like IH and Bird1111 would be unclear. Personally, I think ESE is scum, not cult. Based on my sightings, I don't think there even
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If
there is a cult, I think al4x was the only member at the time of his death.

I think a mass claim might be a good idea at this point. The reason I did not want it before was because of my role. I figure it was probably our best asset so long as it was kept secret. Obviously that's no longer the case.
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Post Post #1665 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:00 pm

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Kison wrote:The thing is that Phoebus was extremely clear with Mastermind of Sin's alignment. I don't see any reason why that would be clear, and people like IH and Bird1111 would be unclear. Personally, I think ESE is scum, not cult. Based on my sightings, I don't think there even
is
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If
there is a cult, I think al4x was the only member at the time of his death.
Read the early flavor posts; there's reason to believe that the mafia is Lovato flavored, which makes bird1111 likely mafia.
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Post Post #1666 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:51 pm

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Ok, Thok, if you think that Bird1111 was scum, what do you think al4x, was? I haven't read the flavor you're talking about yet, but will do so tomorrow.
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Post Post #1667 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:13 pm

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I think from the flavour of the lynch scenes both Bird and Flay were scum . .

Quote in relation to Flay's lynch; Gardener at the Estate
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Mr. Flay
who lived in a little cottage on the grounds of the Lovato estate, suddenly fell down.
Looks like the Lovato estate will be requiring a new
gardener
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Quote in reference to the killing one night, the Estate had invested in silver bullets
Phoebus wrote:
One of the first things the Estate had done when the first news of werewolves came into Lupieri was to invest in silver bullets...
Bird was the mistress of someone at the mansion, further link to Flay with the Lovato guy.
Phoebus wrote:
The Jewish version...well, one just wonders what kind of things Lucius Lovato likes at the mansion...
I don't think Al4xz was part of the same group. I do however think he was likely scum of some kind. Need to review Flay's input.
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Post Post #1668 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:18 pm

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Kison wrote:Ok, Thok, if you think that Bird1111 was scum, what do you think al4x, was? I haven't read the flavor you're talking about yet, but will do so tomorrow.
Don't know for sure. Could be millerish (that fits the whole ESE thing better then what else I've seen).
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Post Post #1669 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:25 pm

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Theo's claim seems awfully opportunist to me. I've never seen a hider who's able to survive hiding with scum- it seems like by suggesting he doesn't know whether that's possible, he's hedging against BM being opposing scum.

I think a PBuG replacement might be necessary.

If we massclaim, I'm happy to go first.
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Post Post #1670 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:20 pm

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The Fonz wrote:If we massclaim, I'm happy to go first.
I'd prefer one of PBug/Kison to choose any order. They have the most info.
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Post Post #1671 (ISO) » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:31 pm

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Meh. I thought someone with information setting the order might hint at what they know, to the scum.
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Post Post #1672 (ISO) » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:28 pm

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@Kison or PBuG:Are you guaranteed of each others' alignment?
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Post Post #1673 (ISO) » Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:48 am

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We are witch sisters. Nothing indicates there's a possibility that either of us are scum. On the other hand, nothing guarantees that one of us isn't.
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Post Post #1674 (ISO) » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:02 am

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I think it's unlikely that scum would get a role that gives the the names of one opposing scum and all the power roles who perform an action on a given night, personally. That's just TOO bastard-modded.

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