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Burning_Earth
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That case took me time, but it's clear you read it with your fucking shitty biased intepretations:
"I don't really want to think Cho's scum because it's too much effort. Hmm, I can misrep this, I can ignore that, I can point this out ...yep, I've done a really prejudiced attitude to a genuine case in approximately 45 seconds."-
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Burning_Earth Mafia Scum
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I don't really care if you're scumreading me or not, to be quite honest anyone scumreading me at this stage is doing it wrong. I'm not scumreading you either; it's not about being scum. My problem is the way you so callously dismissed a post which, yes, actually, IS good, DOES have solid basis and accusations, but more to the point, took me a fucking age and a half to write. Cases are not wrote in 5 minutes. I'm in plenty of games right now and I have people asking me to devote time to those; instead I came here, made the case, and eventually posted it. It's not even about agreeing with me - I can accept, if not understand, if you disagree with the case, but I will not fucking let someone away with dismissing it so arrogantly, when it's clear they skimmed it for a smoking gun, which never exists in Mafia, excluding PR lockdowns, decided they didn't want to consider the case, and put it down. I put work in here because I really like this playerlist and I especially like talking to Elyse; although our viewpoints are polar opposites, I can see she's read the case and can point out holes and different theories to me, and I'm willing to work because of that feedback.
You, however, so rudely dismissed it that I don't even feel as motivated about this case, this scumread, this game, as I did.
Thank you for that shining showcase of your social skills.-
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Burning_Earth Mafia Scum
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Oh and fuck great social skills thereIn post 123, T S O wrote:Yeah, your reading comprehension's even worse than I thought; you're not just somewhat stupid, you're borderline illiterate.-
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OK I'm ready to vote Cho. This looks much more like the townTSO I'm familiar with than the scumTSO. Also, people's defenses of Cho against TSO's case haven't convinced me as much as what I've seen from her slot (or from most of TSO's case). Also:
This is a very good point. This is something that I have deliberately done as scum before, and it worked like a charm.In post 120, T S O wrote:It's natural that your suspicion of Cho is fading; she's lurking out the pressure like a true scumfuck.
VOTE: Cho
@Dunham: would you mind giving a serious response to my question, or was #89 as serious a response as I'm going to get?"Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437-
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@ your first pointIn post 119, T S O wrote:Spoiler: The Votes That Made Them Unlynchable
Spoiler: Reaction to Pressure
Spoiler: Voting of TSO
Basically Cho exhibited strong town reads. She used the word 'unlynchable' as strong town reads shouldn't be lynched. It is, I admit, a little odd to include herself within they 'unlynchable' pile, but is it really that different to putting yourself at the very top of a T/S list?
@your second point
A: She was right, RVS was over. Don't know what you're getting at.
B: Oh come on, everyone uses strong language early game. I didn't really want to lynch egg when I voted him, I just scum read him mildly. The same with cho making out her townreads as stronger than they really were
C: see B
@your third point
I retract my statement that this point was OMGUS. In fact, cho was OMGUSing. However, that is a reasonable town tell, not a scum tell. Scum know not to OMGUS like that.
@your fourth point
Lurking is null and you know it.-
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Oh, and B_E, what's the case on us again?
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Being very cautious
read my post bro-
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OK, then I'll phrase it this way: are you willing to further explain your answer to my question?"Half of the game is figuring out who the scum is. The other half is convincing everyone else that you're right." -- PlaysWithSquirrels, in Newbie 437-
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Excellent vote.In post 134, toolenduso wrote:OK I'm ready to vote Cho. This looks much more like the townTSO I'm familiar with than the scumTSO. Also, people's defenses of Cho against TSO's case haven't convinced me as much as what I've seen from her slot (or from most of TSO's case). Also:
This is a very good point. This is something that I have deliberately done as scum before, and it worked like a charm.In post 120, T S O wrote:It's natural that your suspicion of Cho is fading; she's lurking out the pressure like a true scumfuck.
VOTE: Cho
@Dunham: would you mind giving a serious response to my question, or was #89 as serious a response as I'm going to get?-
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Yes but you seemed too cautious, like three votes were bad (especially when my vote was serious)
If you were trying to ascertain the meaning of my vote you would have asked about the reasons for the vote, not the position.
Also, I note that you (both heads) are reacting a reasonable amount to two votes.-
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1)I am an alt of an active but not new player on this site.
2)I realize that my vote on T S O may actually fall under the category of "OMGUS voting", in the sense that I did roll my eyes and say "Oh My God" and that T S O does, in fact, suck.
a)I really want to bring myself to scumread him
i)but I reluctantly think he is town for the blind aggression
1)and yet I am also leaning toward scumreading him because I know he can be hyperaggressive to form a façade of towniness when he is scum.
a)T S O is anullleaningI-hope-you-are-scumread for me.
b)My vote is still on him because I don't like unnecessarily mean people.
i)Being an asshole may be your idea of fun, but it's not mine.
1)Still not sure if I'm being a hypocrite here.
ii)And it's not like Ihaveto unvote.
3)I may have led myself to believe that my townreads on Cho, Elyse, and mnemonicdevice were more concrete than they actually deserved to be.
4)I was lurking out the pressure like a true townfuck.
a)I'm not sorry, because
i)itworks.
ii)I don't like dealing with early game tunneling.
c)it's also depressing to try and fight off a lynch when certain people are determined to use every new post you make as a way to further their confirmation bias.
5)That being said, I've only skimmed the thread past page 3 and even then only really looked at posts that had my name in them.
a)I am aware T S O posted a "case" that apparently proves that I am scum.
i)I'm not responding because anything I say will just give him more "ammunition".
1)There are quotations around the word ammunition because the situation more closely resembles when you encounter a dog that barks and howls whenever it hears any noise you make.
6)This whole post is entirely true, but I will probably be voted anyway because the lurking and OMGUSing fit "textbook scum" and the Wiki is always right.
7)I'm going to theclubto go getdrunk; I might return in a fewhours, so go ahead and ask me some directedquestionsfor when I get back.-
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1In post 143, Burning_Earth wrote:1Yes but you seemed too cautious, like three votes were bad (especially when my vote was serious)
2If you were trying to ascertain the meaning of my vote you would have asked about the reasons for the vote, not the position.
3Also, I note that you (both heads) are reacting a reasonable amount to two votes.
2 I was trying to ascertain the meaning of your vote and putting emphasis on where it was.
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1) Yeah, HS said he was a little paranoid about the vote in the hydra chat, but I think it was more about the reasoning and the fact that on the site we come from, that would usually be a scum tell.In post 143, Burning_Earth wrote:Yes but you seemed too cautious, like three votes were bad (especially when my vote was serious)
If you were trying to ascertain the meaning of my vote you would have asked about the reasons for the vote, not the position.
Also, I note that you (both heads) are reacting a reasonable amount to two votes.
3) Not really. We were just curious about the angle you were working at.
Why are you scum reading Egg?
P-edit: I don't think my partner and I are posting in sync right now. I'll work on communicating better.-
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