If you'd read the thread previously, you could have voted me then.
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To me, it seems that Arakorn has legitimate IRL activity problems. I don't understand the two votes.
Could y'all explain the reasoning?
I'd like an Arakorn alternative, for the moment, and still no one has stuck with Sir Wario, so:
unvote vote: Dead RikumaruDo not lynch me.
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Just for the record:
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Guardian (1) - Pra a Funkee Home Sapien
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not voting (2) - Gorgon, Rikimaru
I'm wondering if SirWario will be replaced in time. If not, does his vote still stand? Is Pra's issue being resolved? I'm just concerned that there will be stale votes at deadline.In Tartiflette We Trust-
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MeMe, you quoted hisMeMe wrote:"Let's just lynch anyone and hope day ends" is not what the dude said and is not what I agreed with.whole postand said "hear hear" implying agreement with his post:
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Hear hear.gorckat wrote:I will wagon whomever needs to be wagonned to lynch.At this point, I just want this fucking game to go to night so that something will happen.
The latter sentiment, which you also approved of, is what I find troubling -- "wanting the game to go to night" is an excuse to lynch anyone convenient. Do younotagree with his whole post?
Nope, that's why I voted for Dead Rikumaru.MeMe wrote:The day will end, with or without a lynch, and it's better for it to be WITH a lynch. Do you disagree?
That's all well and good -- again, the problem I had is that you agreed with the sentiment that you couldn't wait for the game to go to night, and presumably were moving forward with that as a basis for your actions.MeMe wrote:I'll switch my vote at deadline if that's whatnecessaryto ensure a lynch. That's not mypreference, but I'll do it if that's what has to be done to make sure we get some information.Do not lynch me.
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Alright, I get what you're on about now.Guardian wrote:
MeMe, you quoted hisMeMe wrote:"Let's just lynch anyone and hope day ends" is not what the dude said and is not what I agreed with.whole postand said "hear hear" implying agreement with his post:
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Hear hear.gorckat wrote:I will wagon whomever needs to be wagonned to lynch.At this point, I just want this fucking game to go to night so that something will happen.
The latter sentiment, which you also approved of, is what I find troubling -- "wanting the game to go to night" is an excuse to lynch anyone convenient. Do younotagree with his whole post?
First: I didn't quote his whole post -- but I do agree with the parts I did quote, though I seem to interpret them differently than you do. You seem to be reading the whole thing as an action plan & I'm reading it as an assurance & a statement of frustration. So, basically, I'm saying "me too" to wagoning to ensure a lynch AND being tired of this endless nothing-happening day. To be clear: I was not saying that I was interested in a pre-deadline lynch (something I think would be pretty impossible anyway -- seven needed votes??).
As for why I'm voting Arakorn? Because, at the time I voted him -- soupfly was the leading votee & I donotlike the idea of a soupfly lynch. gorckat suggested Arakorn as a possibility and, since I find him to be completely useless, I thought "alrighty then." He might claim to have lots of school work, but healsoclaims to have read the thread and to have (at least at the point I voted him) no leading suspects.
And, for the record, I do NOT want Jenter to extend the deadline. The only thing that seems to have sparkedanyactivity in this game is the threat of pending deadline -- take that away, and I think we'll go right back down to "almost dead" status.Remember...It's not a lie if you believe it. -- G. Costanza-
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The problem with the deadline where it is is that we have people missing and I'm afraid we won't get all the replacements here in time. I want this game to move forward just as much as you do, but I want everybody here, too. If we get everybody here in time so that they can discuss and make a decision, great, but time is short.
On to more important things, though, are you voting Arakorn simply because you find him useless? I mean, do you really think he's mafia? Do you not care whether or not he's mafia?
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Gorckat (2) – Tarhalindur, Arakorn
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Loaded language much, neko?
1) "simply because you find him useless" -- indicates both that it's only my opinion, rather than fact, that he's been unhelpful AND that useless isn't that big of a deal
2) "really think" -- indicates that I might have, at this point, acted contrary to my actual thoughts
3) "not care whether or not" -- well, I don't even need to explain that to anyone
Let me askyou: do you really think that being present but unwilling to pick a leading suspect when 1) everyone's been asked to do so and 2) it's been pointed out we're under deadline istownishbehavior? Or could it be scum waiting to be "convinced" by other players so that he need not make a decision for which he must take responsibility? (Bear in mind that Arakorn has since voted gorckat -- but only after Guardian called his post "remarkably like scum talk.")
Or -- in words you might more readily recognize: do you really think that players have no responsibility to be helpful? I mean, do you really think that Arakorn is town? Do you not care if he's scum?Remember...It's not a lie if you believe it. -- G. Costanza-
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Yeah, sorry my mistake.MeMe wrote:Alright, I get what you're on about now.
First: I didn't quote his whole post
That's reasonable .MeMe wrote:but I do agree with the parts I did quote, though I seem to interpret them differently than you do.
You seem to be reading the whole thing as an action plan & I'm reading it as an assurance & a statement of frustration. So, basically, I'm saying "me too" to wagoning to ensure a lynch AND being tired of this endless nothing-happening day.
To be clear: I was not saying that I was interested in a pre-deadline lynch (something I think would be pretty impossible anyway -- seven needed votes??).
That is a good reason. I don't claim to have read particularly carefully -- I assume you said that at the time?MeMe wrote:As for why I'm voting Arakorn? Because, at the time I voted him -- soupfly was the leading votee & I donotlike the idea of a soupfly lynch.
That also makes sense. Why not say "alrighty then" when, for example, I suggested Sir Wario or Sikario8, or when Tarhalindur suggested gorckat?MeMe wrote:gorckat suggested Arakorn as a possibility and, since I find him to be completely useless, I thought "alrighty then." He might claim to have lots of school work, but healsoclaims to have read the thread and to have (at least at the point I voted him) no leading suspects.
And here I thought it was me replacing in.MeMe wrote:And, for the record, I do NOT want Jenter to extend the deadline. The only thing that seems to have sparkedanyactivity in this game is the threat of pending deadline
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. But I'm fine with deadline, I hate games that go a long page length, because no one takes the time to go back and read them. Game theory wise, I'd rather have a day 1 lynch after 5 pages than after 50.
Again, not sure that's true, but I also support the deadline staying in place.MeMe wrote: -- take that away, and I think we'll go right back down to "almost dead" status.
Wow, when you put it that way, Arakorn lynch seems rather appealing. Why not bring out more of those ideas earlier?MeMe wrote:Loaded language much, neko?
1) "simply because you find him useless" -- indicates both that it's only my opinion, rather than fact, that he's been unhelpful AND that useless isn't that big of a deal
2) "really think" -- indicates that I might have, at this point, acted contrary to my actual thoughts
3) "not care whether or not" -- well, I don't even need to explain that to anyone
Let me askyou: do you really think that being present but unwilling to pick a leading suspect when 1) everyone's been asked to do so and 2) it's been pointed out we're under deadline istownishbehavior? Or could it be scum waiting to be "convinced" by other players so that he need not make a decision for which he must take responsibility? (Bear in mind that Arakorn has since voted gorckat -- but only after Guardian called his post "remarkably like scum talk.")
Not sure a Arakorn lynch is more appealing that a DR lynch, but I understand where MeMe-town might be coming from re: Arakorn.
rofl .MeMe wrote:Or -- in words you might more readily recognize: do you really think that players have no responsibility to be helpful? I mean, do you really think that Arakorn is town? Do you not care if he's scum?Do not lynch me.
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Vote: Arakorn
Reasoning ...
- Contributes nothing. I can understand that he's busy, but he's posted enough posts, short as they are. I'd except them to containsomecomments on what he thinks of the other players
- OMGUS vote on gorckat
- Erroneous "So the only reason you voted for me" argument ... a scumtell in my book
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I've already stated that I think Arakorn would be better off replaced than lynched.
I don't appreciate being mocked. I asked you those questions because too many times I've heard this argument:
"Hey, this guy's not acting pro-town at all, so if we lynch him, we either get rid of scum or an anti-town townie. Either way, we win!"
I was just wondering if that's how you felt, or if you really believe Arakorn is likely scum. You do, and that's all I wanted to know. I personally don't think there's a clear read either way, and going back to my original though on him, I would put my best guess on him being scum, but it's only a guess. His vote is troublesome, but not sure it's enough to convince me. He could very well not have had time to read through everything and make a great decision, in which case he ought to be replaced.In Tartiflette We Trust-
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I apologize if that hurt your feelings, neko -- I thought it was appropriate to show you how hard it is to respond to a string of questions worded the way you worded them. Sounds more like an attack than an actual desire forneko2086 wrote:I don't appreciate being mocked.answersright?Remember...It's not a lie if you believe it. -- G. Costanza-
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You joined on page 11. It was pretty clearly under 10. People said something to that effect just about every page due to replacement issues.Arakorn wrote:I think it was something under 10, I was reading posts where people said "so should we start now?". (It struck me how the game could have been several pages of spam though...)
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Your motives were questionable, that's all. At the moment, it didn't seem like you actually believed arakorn was scum, so I thought I'd apply some pressure.
I'm starting to wonder about Arakorn, though. He seems to be going out of his way to go with the flow, which would fit in with the idea that he could be newbie thrown into scum position. A newbie in a town position might do the same, but maybe with less likelihood? I dunno, any thoughts on this? It's starting to be fairly clear that Arakorn has little interest in reading through the game, maybe even regardless of time constraints. I'm considering changing my vote. Depends on what you do, Arakorn.In Tartiflette We Trust-
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Arakorn said he'd read the game next week after IRL schoolwork was over...
I sense a possible scum-shift from Sikario8 to Arakorn :\. Gorckat switched over to Sikario8 quickly when I pointed out the votes on Arakorn were weak, neko is pondering switching to Arakorn, Gorgon adds vote on for pretty shaky reasoning...
I'm sure that not all of those are winning reads, but it is possible some of them are. Then again, Arakorn could be scum.
I'm happy with my vote on DR at deadline though and still encourage others to vote him -- you all are voting Arakorn saying he has contributed nothing -- what about Dead Rikumaru???Do not lynch me.
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Yes, after Tuesday/Wednesday I will have more time again. For the rest of this weekend though, until late Sunday, I will be away, ie I don't even have access to internet. But I promise that I will read whatever new posts has been made by then.
And just a note regarding my newbieness, I've been involved in a couple of games, the last one was me being one of 3 mafia's and not a single mafia was killed in that game. It is true that my skills can be considered noobiness, but I do have experiences from playing these games. Ask the mod or Pra though, been playing with them. (I am known for not being so contributive though...)-
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I'm here.
Had problems at work this week and very little sleep.
Last night I slept more than 12 hours.
Leaving for shiatsu classes now.
Checking back my games at night.
DR[i]"Dead Rikimaru is... well, dead. When the lights came back on, he was found turned inside-out, somehow. Disgusting, really. Anyway, he was "Dead Dead Rikimaru" (Self-fulfilling Prophecy)".
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So you've been mafia before... I see... there goes that theory...
That would mean that you're going with the flow not because you don't know what to do, but rather, just to try to appease everyone. I might have to find this game you were in.
How convenient that you'll be available after deadline.
DR, you had better have something profound to say tonight. Not moving my vote.In Tartiflette We Trust-
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something is seriously wrong with this game. deadline is tomorrow and i'm one vote away from being lynched because of votes places by Sir Wario who hasn't posted here since Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:49 pm and Archaist who hasn't posted since Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:50 am.
i could claim God the Creator and it wouldn't make any difference because they wouldn't be around to unvote.i am sofa king!
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