Mini 572 - Packrats (game over)

[Ether]

4 Capricious (eldarad, hasdgfas, Skruffs, Y)
1 Andycyca (Elmo)
1 hasdgfas (Capricious)
1 Rotten Snitch (Yosarian2)
1 Y (Zindaras)

3 Unvote (Andycyca, Mizzy, Rotten Snitch)

11 alive; 6 to lynch.

4/6 - eldarad, Y, Yosarian2, hasdgfas

9 hours and 27 minutes until the next block.

[Yosarian2]

Capri needs to answer my question ASAP, and if he wants to claim he should do it now. We're going to screw up and miss a deadline eventually, we don't have time to waste here.

[hasdgfas]

Capri needs to answer my question ASAP, and if he wants to claim he should do it now. We're going to screw up and miss a deadline eventually, we don't have time to waste here.

[Capricious]

The plan is to either lynch who I want to lynch, or lynch me and follow this for future guidance:


Town:
Rotten Snitch
Mizzy
Skruffs
Elmo

[Zindaras]

We won't miss this deadline.

[Elmo]

Hmm. Yos, what do you think of Y and Andy?

This.

Capri, why is this "the plan"? I mean, assuming you're lynched as town, I don't see anyone doing anything differently based on that guidance afterwards. Also, you wants to answer Yos, yaus?

[Yosarian2]

If you keep ignoring my question, Capi, you're probably going to get lynched quite soon, FYI.

Elmo: Ok, I'll go back and take a look at their posts. Anything specific you want me to look for?

[Elmo]

Um. Andy's vote on Snitch and behaviour around Capri (I think?) irks me; I had more than that, but I can't call it to mind right now. With Y.. I don't know, really. Zindy said "he feels off", I only really have a vague feeling at the moment.. I guess he doesn't seem to have engaged with the game much, and I don't really dig Skruffs being his main suspect at this point. I'm just curious as to what you think, I guess. Ugh, off to bed for me.

[Andycyca]

Back from a very nice, sunny and wet saturday 8)

My vote on Snitch has been explained repeatedly. My reason for unvoting too. I personally don't like the way the game is going right now, we're just fighting against the (deadline) current more than actually scumhunting. The way things are going we'll never get to a lynch. I don't think Capri is the scummiest one, but we definitely should lynch pronto.

[eldarad]

Elmo, you haven't really explained why you like Capri.

I personally don't like the way the game is going right now, we're just fighting against the (deadline) current more than actually scumhunting.

And I agree with this - IMO enforced activity harms scumhunting. If we're going to lynch we need to do it soon, and then use the first two weeks of Day 2 to start analysing and hunting properly.

[Yosarian2]

Um. Andy's vote on Snitch and behaviour around Capri (I think?) irks me; I had more than that, but I can't call it to mind right now. With Y.. I don't know, really. Zindy said "he feels off", I only really have a vague feeling at the moment.. I guess he doesn't seem to have engaged with the game much, and I don't really dig Skruffs being his main suspect at this point. I'm just curious as to what you think, I guess. Ugh, off to bed for me.

Hmm...

Well, in the early game, Andy looks pretty agressive, he got off to a start doing what looks like real scumhunting-ish stuff pretty fast, and that tends to give me good vibes. He's slowed down lately, he hasn't really contributed much content recently, though. I don't see anything especally scummy from him.

Y seemed to focus on Capi for most of the game, then he kind of shifted over to Skruffs for reasons I don't really understand. Y, could you explain why he's your main suspect right now? (Also, re-reading Y's posts, that thing about easter was great. )

[Zindaras]

Um. Andy's vote on Snitch and behaviour around Capri (I think?) irks me; I had more than that, but I can't call it to mind right now. With Y.. I don't know, really.

Zindy said "he feels off", I

only really have a vague feeling at the moment.. I guess he doesn't seem to have engaged with the game much, and I don't really dig Skruffs being his main suspect at this point. I'm just curious as to what you think, I guess. Ugh, off to bed for me.

Don't know why bolded part is relevant to your post.

I'm ill, just posting to get the deadline thing again.

[Y]

Y, could you explain why he's your main suspect right now? (Also, re-reading Y's posts, that thing about easter was great. )

Happily...
At one point he started making up "rules" about who is scum. He wasn't suggesting nor sharing his thoughts, he was just claiming that is the case.
Now based on his own declaration, he just can accuse whoever he wishes without any one questioning it, and maybe get other people to follow.
He's also basing most of his play on meta-gaming, which isn't as helpful as he's making it look like (While accusing one of our best players. Convenient).
All in all, I get from him the feeling that he's trying to make opportunities for future lynches while being under the radar.

[Mizzy]

At one point he started

making up "rules" about who is scum.

He wasn't suggesting nor sharing his thoughts, he was just claiming that is the case.
Now based on his own declaration, he just can accuse whoever he wishes without any one questioning it, and maybe get other people to follow.
He's also basing

most of his play on meta-gaming,

which isn't as helpful as he's making it look like (While accusing one of our best players. Convenient).
All in all, I get from him the feeling that he's

trying to make opportunities for future lynches while being under the radar

.

*Sticks her head in and gently points out that Capri is not the only person in the game to have committed the bolded offenses.*

[Elmo]

Mizzy: Think that's about Skruffs.
Zindy: c'os I agreed with you. I think.
Eldy: I think I said it was mostly gut.. I just can't really see anyone acting the way he's doing as scum, it doesn't feel faked to me. I dunno, I can't articulate it very well; I read about three pages of one of his other games without knowing his alignment and had pretty much the same vibe, he was town there. *shrug*

[Skruffs]

HMmmmm.
Elmo: Think it's about Andy.

[Rotten Snitch]

Will post this afternoon - Really sorry this has been one hell of a week for me and I have a lot to read up on

[Y]

HMmmmm.
Elmo: Think it's about Andy.

If you're referring to my post, it's about you.

[Skruffs]

Oh, okay. ^.^

It's really easy to pick at other players without, you know, putting yourself at risk, isn't it?

[Rotten Snitch]

Some of my thoughts now that I am back. Again I apologize for being gone, if anyone has been to Ft. Polk, LA they will agree that my week sucked 

Anyway, I have done a partial read through and some things have come to my attention.
I will agree that Capri is a little odd in his posting. I have never played with Capri so I can’t say if this is usual or not. I do not really like his post 293

pro-town people are creators, scum play tag-along/ are concluders

I agree with everyone else in that this was a horrible waste of time.

I DISLIKE how you are asking if Capri has claimed. We have been making the deadline so far each time and as far as I know. In post 347 you are looking for a claim and it is no where near the chopping block for Capri yet.
I LIKE: his case he has presented on Capri and I agree with most of it. I just think the above point is a little off-ish, too soon to be asking for a roleclaim.

Mizzy I don’t like your WIFOM in post 323. You jumped down my throat so far you could touch my harbles for WIFOM. Yet it is ok when you do it because you are aware and saying so? It is still WIFOM and very two-faced. Muddying up the waters…..

Y your post 412 agrees with my previous posting on Skruffs defending me to bring it up against me later. I also agree that he could be fencing with everyone to stir up the pot later. Although I have to admit it is just the way Skruffs is. Damn him!

[eldarad]

This is 4/6.

And we really need to decide how we're going to end Today. The longer this goes on, the more I am convinced that Skruffs is correct - some people want a no-lynch. Other people (possibly the same people) just aren't active enough to post every 24 hours.

And one person in particular keeps disappearing for days at a time.

[hasdgfas]

I DISLIKE how you are asking if Capri has claimed. We have been making the deadline so far each time and as far as I know. In post 347 you are looking for a claim and it is no where near the chopping block for Capri yet.

Capri is at L-2 and we're in the deadline block. If he doesn't claim, we're just prolonging this for no reason. If he claims something we believe, we have time to find someone else to lynch. Prolonging it, while supposedly helping us have more discussion, just seems to be. "Hi, where's Capri?" That's not helping anyone. He needs to claim so we can get somewhere.

[Zindaras]

Still ill. *sighs*

[Andycyca]

Capri is at L-2 and we're in the deadline block. If he doesn't claim, we're just prolonging this for no reason. If he claims something we believe, we have time to find someone else to lynch. Prolonging it, while supposedly helping us have more discussion, just seems to be. "Hi, where's Capri?" That's not helping anyone. He needs to claim so we can get somewhere.

A lynch is better than NoLynch IMHO, and even if Capri isn't the scummier right now, he should claim quickly or die.

[Yosarian2]

/here

Yeah, this isn't going anywhere.

vote:Capricious

That's lynch -1. I don't want to see anyone hammer today, since we've got the requisite 6 people posting so we won't hit deadline today, but he needs to either claim or somehow otherwise convince people he's town, and he needs to do it now.