California Trilogy - Going to San Francisco (Game Over!)

[Mr. Grey]

Vote Count:

8 to lynch.

Niv: 1 (FaerieLord)
PookyTheMagicalBear: 1 (vollkan)
Xtoxm: 1 (MichelSableheart)

Condorcet updates will be posted with vote counts during the second week of each day.

[Gaspar]

vote Volkan

Gut.

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[MrBuddyLee]

vote: Rogueben

[Rogueben]

Vote: NabakovNabakov

[Primate]

Also, his blatant over-reaction and his aggressiveness on bandwagoning pooky. Pretty sure he's lurking too.

Vote Volkan

[Gaspar]

Also, his blatant over-reaction and his aggressiveness on bandwagoning pooky. Pretty sure he's lurking too.

Vote Volkan

[vollkan]

Also, his blatant over-reaction and his aggressiveness on bandwagoning pooky. Pretty sure he's lurking too.

Vote Volkan

It's rather sad how many serious votes come close to resembling the above monstrosity.

[Thesp]

Greetings all!

Time to test something. I wil be using condorcet voting no more than a week out from here, and encourage everyone else to do the same. I also strongly encourage lynching before the deadline (as Michael Sableheart notes).

(I must say, vollkan, I'm intrigued at how scum percentages for everyone start at 50% when it's unlikely that 50% of the players are scum. Perhaps it's just an extra bit of paranoia. Answer if you like, though I'm sure too much discussion on it will prove more distraction than assistance.)

Vote: curiouskarmadog.

[vollkan]

(I must say, vollkan, I'm intrigued at how scum percentages for everyone start at 50% when it's unlikely that 50% of the players are scum. Perhaps it's just an extra bit of paranoia. Answer if you like, though I'm sure too much discussion on it will prove more distraction than assistance.)

I'll answer this, because it won't be any significant distraction and I can deal with it briefly.

My habitual use of a % sign is frankly a little misleading because it implies probability, when it really just means "ranking out of 100". Better to just think of my system as 1 to 100 scale. The 50 (or 50%) position just indicates neutrality (as in "neutral until proven either way" rather than "innocent/guilty until proven guilty/innocent"). I could also just use -100 to 100 with the neutral position being 0 if I wanted to (but old habits die hard).

I find a numerical scale helps me to express my relative suspicions of people clearer.

[MichelSableheart]

Time to test something. I wil be using condorcet voting no more than a week out from here, and encourage everyone else to do the same. I also strongly encourage lynching before the deadline (as Michael Sableheart notes).

There is no 'a' in Michel.

Also, I guess you're testing whether a vote on one of the missing players will register? Guess that is a good idea. Let's see if there is a difference between the way they are treated.

Unvote

Vote:

Xtoxm, {everyone else}, {curiouskarmadog, Gorrad, IH, Nibbler Twins, OhGodMyLife,

Sarcastro

}, No Lynch, MichelSableheart

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Frankly speaking,

Vote: Pooky

What does your list look like right now? All 50% or Pooky higher % than everyone else?

Vote: curiouskarmadog.

Good idea with the missing players test Thesp, I'll add on to it by bandwagoning:

• Vote: curiouskarmadog
  
  
• {everyone except MM}
  
• No Lynch
  
• MM

[Gaspar]

(Glork here.)

Hi, Vollkan. Cute post.

e: Any unreadable lurker will receive 50%

FoS

2) I am exceptionally skeptical of "town tells" and am reluctant to positively identify people as being "likely town". I have no issue with identifying the "less scummy" but I do not like identifying the "more towny".

SUPER MAJOR FoS

3) Any player who justifies a vote/FoS/declaration of 'suspicion'/etc. on one of the following:

• a) 'Hunch';
  b) 'Gut';
  c) 'Feeling';
  d) 'Belief'; or
  e) Anything that has a meaning similar to those of the above

will receive a stern demand from me that they give objective reasons for their vote/FoS/declaration of 'suspicion'/etc. Should they fail to do so, my expectation is that the vote/FoS/declaration of 'suspicion'/etc. will be dropped. If not, then they can expect their % ranking to increase.

LIKE OMG SUPER DUPER GIGANTIC OMEGA FoS (The Omega makes it more final and thus important.)

4) If you want to play in a chaotic fashion, that's fine. However, if I can't understand what you are doing I will demand an explanation and justification. If you don't provide me with one, your % ranking

will

increase.

FoS

5) Any person who accuses another person of being scum for one of the following:

• b) Lurking;

Can expect their % ranking to increase.

FoS

8) Reliance on conspiracy arguments, such as "I think X is scummy because he did Y which could help scum because Z" (keyword = "could") will merit a % increase.

Minor FoS

9) If I make a mistake somewhere I will point out that I have made tremendous cock-ups as town in a number of games. If you choose to entirely ignore these meta-references, your % ranking will rise.

Above Average FoS

10) If you are finding the game too 'difficult' or 'complex' either read up or replace out.

lulz


Based on your ridiculous rules, you are not going to enjoy playing with me. It is probably best that we remove you from the system as soon as humanly possible.

I am happy with Primspar's vote. I suggest we purge this entity as soon as humanly possible. Cowboy up!

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[Gaspar]

EBWOP: Slight addendum to Primspar's vote...

Vote: Vollkan

, Mr. Grey, {people}, Gaspar

[vollkan]

What does your list look like right now? All 50% or Pooky higher % than everyone else?

Pooky is such

obvious

scum that he is at 100%. Other players are at 50%.

@Glorkspar: With the amount of objections you have raised to my policies, I am pleased that we have gotten our differences up-front right away. I'd rather not get into a humongous theory debate with you. We don't have to agree to play the game, but it helps to know our differences.

[Gaspar]

No, you don't understand. You are dirty scum, and you

need

to die.

[Gaspar]

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[FaerieLord]

@volkan: On number 3: So we should give reasons not to live in fear that you will degrade us in your opinion. A townie's aim isn't to stay alive. A townie's aim is to find scum. Even if it means it is at the expense of themselves.\

On number 6: I agree. Bandwagonning while barning is a scum tell, but bandwagonning with sufficient ORIGINAL reasoning is ok

On number 9: If you make a mistake, we should ignore them because you still might be town...nice.

On general. I don't like the fact that you destroyed the random voting stage and are already trying to lead the town into following your reasoning, not their own.

[NabakovNabakov]

Vote: curiouskarmadog.

Good idea with the missing players test Thesp, I'll add on to it by bandwagoning:

Huh?


Assuming that the purpose of the vote is to find out if votes on missing persons register, what's the point of a second one? Is there really a possibility that single votes will register but wagons won't?

Michel, why did you bold Sarcastro?

Vote: Machiavellian-Mafia

, {Everybody Else}, No Lynch, NabNab

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Assuming that the purpose of the vote is to find out if votes on missing persons register, what's the point of a second one? Is there really a possibility that single votes will register but wagons won't?

I was looking for a reason to bandwagon, and the one I found was Thesp's test.

Pooky is such obvious scum that he is at 100%. Other players are at 50%.

Is it possible for anyone on your list to reach 100% then come back down?

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

EBWOP:

Pooky is such obvious scum that he is at 100%. Other players are at 50%.

[MichelSableheart]

I bolded Sarcastro because I am currently voting for Sarcastro to check if votes on him register. I did not put him at the top of my list because there are a large number of players who I would rather lynch then someone who is missing.

MM: The main reason there is for bandwagoning is, AFAIK, to get reactions. How are you going to get reactions from someone who isn't there?

Unvote

Vote:

Machiavellian-Mafia, {everyone else}, {curiouskarmadog, Gorrad, IH, Nibbler Twins, OhGodMyLife,

Sarcastro

}, No Lynch, MichelSableheart

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

MM: The main reason there is for bandwagoning is, AFAIK, to get reactions. How are you going to get reactions from someone who isn't there?

Well of course I can't get reactions from CKD, but I just got a reaction from you didn't I?

[Niv]

Hello everyone.

OMG I Suck

Vote Niv to remove this mispelling nusance form the gmae.

did you know i can't spell, FL is on the wringt track. Kill me now.

/sarcasim, please dont kill me.

Vote Niv

[Niv]

Wait, Better pln, UnVote Niv, Vote FL beacuse he lik pointing out how bad my spelling is.

UnVote Niv, Vote FL

[Xtoxm]

vote Gorrad