Mini 574: Portal Mafia: HUGE SUCCESS

[Glork]

"As part of another required test protocol, we will stop enhancing the truth in 3... 2... *static*"
-GLaDOS

Vote Count:

Flameaxe 3 (Machiavellian-Mafia, Ether, Guardian)
scotmany12 2 (Incognito, Gorrad)
Sir Tornado 1 (Your Worst Nightmare)
Machiavellian-Mafia 1 (Flameaxe)

9 alive, 5 to lynch

[Incognito]

Will most likely be Miztef or Incognito.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember you actually explicitly mentioning why you found me suspicious. Care to explain?

[Gorrad]

I didn't vote Flameaxe? I meant to vote Flameaxe.

Vote: Flameaxe

, L-1.

[Gorrad]

And by that, I of course mean

Unvote, Vote: Flameaxe

[scotmany12]

Will most likely be Miztef or Incognito.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember you actually explicitly mentioning why you found me suspicious. Care to explain?

No, I haven't. When I reread, I just had an uneasy feeling about you. Probably mostly Gut. After reading your posts in isolation, I don't really see that much scummy things from you. There are things that I disagree with, but that isn't really scummy on your part.

I can, however, go for a Miztef lynch. He seems to be contradicting himself from tiem to time in this game. I find him fencesitting, calling people scummy and then saying she doesn't want to vote for them (i.e. Flameaxe and sir t(guardian now)). I would really like to hear how he distinguishes me from those two, because he says that I am her most suspicious.

One thing that really gets me is one of his defenses:

I'm much less consistent as town for the simple reason that I have very little idea what I'm doing. When I'm scum I know exactly what I should be doing. I just assumed that's how it is with most people.

I really just dislike people using their own metas as defenses. Its borderline WIFOM for me. Simply saying this is how I always play as town is just, eh, not good.
So,

Vote: Miztef

[Incognito]

Flameaxe, you're at L-1. You should probably claim soon.

[Miztef]

I am okay with this flameaxe wagon now, I'll wait for a claim to act though.

I think if another pro-town power role comes up, we should seriously consider which are anti-town or not.

[Your Worst Nightmare]

So if we lynch Gorrad and MM, and we haven't won yet, either we had 4 of the same scumgroup in a mini, or we YWN and whomever aren't the same flavor of scum as Gorrad and MM.

I didn't get this. Could you explain better, please?


I will also wait for Flameaxe to claim or something.

Unvote

, by the way.

[Gorrad]

So if we lynch Gorrad and MM, and we haven't won yet, either we had 4 of the same scumgroup in a mini, or we YWN and whomever aren't the same flavor of scum as Gorrad and MM.

I didn't get this. Could you explain better, please?


I will also wait for Flameaxe to claim or something.

Unvote

, by the way.

Ok, this is a mini, yes? Four in a scumgroup is not impossible, but is unlikely considering the size. So here's the deal: If I'm town, you're cleared. If I'm scum, then M-M is ALSO scum- that's three, you're probably cleared. So, all things taken into consideration, you're almost completely confirmed as non-killer no matter my allignment.

[scotmany12]

I would wager that there is either 4 scum, or 3 scum and a sk.

[Gorrad]

I would wager that there is either 4 scum, or 3 scum and a sk.

You would.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Scotmany: Would you hammer flameaxe if there were an immediate deadline?

Flameaxe: Seems like the consensus is for you to claim. The longer you delay the more it hurts the town since the deadline is in 7 days.

[scotmany12]

If there was a looming deadline, then yes. Otherwise, unless his claim is extremely far fetched, then no.

[Ether]

I do believe I'm about to be prodded.

So, uh, yeah, Flameaxe should claim. And follow up on this, though I don't really expect him to do that.

I really just dislike people using their own metas as defenses. Its borderline WIFOM for me. Simply saying this is how I always play as town is just, eh, not good.

Nah. When it's something like "I always lurk," then things get complicated, sort of. He's

saying

what he does differently as scum, and checking his games will show that to be accurate. In fact, in that case, other people checked the games and responded the same way before he posted that.

I think if another pro-town power role comes up, we should seriously consider which are anti-town or not.

...meh, remind me to respond to this later.

Theoretically, M-M could have been roleblocked, which would also explain the nightkill. I am only pointing this loophole out--I don't actually want to lynch either of them. Really. So there you go.

I would wager that there is either 4 scum, or 3 scum and a sk.

You would.

[Incognito]

Flameaxe, you gonna claim soon and follow up on what Ether mentioned above or what? I'm about ready to drop the hammer and it's really irritating me that you're now avoiding this game.

[Guardian]

Flameaxe's lurking and disproving my reason for not voting him both make me very comfortable that he's in a claim situation.

His delay in claiming does nothing for me in terms of making me reevaluate my vote.

[Your Worst Nightmare]

Ok, this is a mini, yes? Four in a scumgroup is not impossible, but is unlikely considering the size. So here's the deal: If I'm town, you're cleared. If I'm scum, then M-M is ALSO scum- that's three, you're probably cleared. So, all things taken into consideration, you're almost completely confirmed as non-killer no matter my allignment.

Thank you for helping us help you help us all.


In other news, even

I

have seen Flameaxe posting in other games in this forum while completely ignore this one, and I'm not even an all that active member. It seems that this game isn't in Flameaxe's list of games worthy of posting. Then I'll grant his wish. If he doesn't post here by tomorrow, I'm giving the hammer vote.

[Gorrad]

He finally gave WEM a VC and prods, so he's definitely around the site.

[Ether]

His last post was Friday premorning. So he's prodbait anyway.

[Machiavellian-Mafia]

Flameaxe's post count in non-Portal-Mafia threads after the end of the Marathon: 33
Flamesaxe's post count in Portal Mafia after the end of the Marathon: 0

Enough said.

[Glork]

Prodding Flameaxe, who hasn't posted in over 72 hours. He has 24 hours to post before I begin seeking replacement.
-Glork

[scotmany12]

Honestly, I'm about ready to hammer BBM. It is clear that he is active throughout the site. He can't even take one minute to claim; he is avoiding this game completely. If flame was town I don't think he would do this.

[Gorrad]

Yeah, he usually pretends to give a dingo's kidney.

[Guardian]

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[Incognito]

Flameaxe, I see you on the site like right at this very moment. You've obviously picked up your prod. Can you post?