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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:00 pm

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petroleumjelly wrote:CKD, a few questions for you.

1.)
Please explain why you role-blocked Talitha on Night One. Day One ended on January 23rd. You never mentioned Talitha in a single one of your posts until Feb 3. Point to specific posts; be as detailed as possible.

2.)
After having role-blocked Talitha on Night One, you must have noticed there were two kills. This should have indicated to you that you likely did not role-block a scum who had doing any killing. With such knowledge, why then would you have role-blocked Talitha a
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In my experience, scum groups tend to have the same player do all the killing (unless they come under suspicion, or are killed) and I expect you have seen a similar trend, so you would have known that your action would likely have done nothing at all, and even the lack of a nightkill would not have given you any information whatsoever to work from. Hence, if your goal was to stop a nightkill, you clearly would have been better off role-blocking a separate player.
not sure why I replying to this...this late in the "day" and the way this town is playing, we are going to lose...I cant believe you guy's are actually believing Has...we must be on the verge of losing if scum is willing to pull this crap at this point. At least I know the vig (and I have been 99% sure I know who he is for days) will take out Has tonight...I just thought the experience that was included in this game, we would have done better..


1.) I had a feeling about Talitha's lurking from Day 1. Which is why I put on the pressure as soon as Day 2 started. I also noted there was only two kills, I figured in a game this size there would be 3...figured I had caught scum, which is why I RBed the second time (night 2)...however, when I saw that there was three kills after Night 2, I figured I didnt have scum afterall.
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:04 pm

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:cry:

I hate this town so very much. How is it we have 70 pages of 'discussion' and people still have nothing to say or time to say it in? I
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I think there are plenty of reasons to doubt hasdgfas's claim, but CKD has had more than enough time to respond to my questions regardless of any 'constraints' he may claim to have (especially since he is clearly finding the time to post in other games). If you cannot find the time to defend yourself in a "1 v 1" scenario under a deadline, then I am forced to assume (a) you are scum who cannot reasonably defend yourself or (b) so freaking lazy / otherwise distracted that you are not helping the town in any case.

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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:06 pm

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CKD wrote:1.) I had a feeling about Talitha's lurking from Day 1. Which is why I put on the pressure as soon as Day 2 started. I also noted there was only two kills, I figured in a game this size there would be 3...figured I had caught scum, which is why I RBed the second time (night 2)...however, when I saw that there was three kills after Night 2, I figured I didnt have scum afterall.
Well, just shot yourself in the foot here. If you really had this claimed mentality, then you would have "figured you didn't have a scum afterall" based on the fact that
Talitha had just been killed as a Townie on Night Two
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:08 pm

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actually you just hammered I believe..

of course, I knew I didnt have scum afterall (she was dead), I thought that was an obvious.

at any rate, that has to be the worst cross post ever.
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:09 pm

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at any rate, bah, go town.....I hope we are not at lylo right now.
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:11 pm

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No, your post did not read that way. The mentality you were presenting was thus:
CKD's mentality wrote:There were two kills on Night One: therefore, it is likely that Talitha is a scum I successfully blocked. However, there were three kills on Night Two: therefore, I may not have actually been onto scum."
That would have been a fine story to tell if not for the fact that Talitha was simply dead. Refering "seeing three kills" without also saying "seeing Talitha killed" makes it so you are clearly trying to add a dimension to your story that was previously not there.
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:16 pm

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that is not what I meant though, it was an obvious she was dead...anyway, I dont fault you PJ, I think you are town and I can see how you thought I meant that, I wish you luck.
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:16 pm

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If CKD is town, mathcam and PJ must die.
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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:27 pm

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petroleumjelly wrote:I
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formally ask for the scum to kill me tonight if not for the assurity that somebody will then accuse me of trying to appeal to pity/WIFOM/whatnot.
No way. Then Beep and I are the only actively posting players. How fun would that be?
Beep wrote: If CKD is town, mathcam and PJ must die.
Because my vote wasn't as pendulum-y as yours was today? Or because I made actual points against ckd? Or are you just trying to set up a lynch for tomorrow?
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:31 pm

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Only scum is ever really sure.
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:45 pm

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needs posters
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:25 pm

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Beep! Beep! wrote:Only scum is ever really sure.
If it's my sureness (which I don't think is actually all that sure) that you're opposed to, then why did your comment only apply in the case that ckd was town? And how did PJ get lumped in -- she seems far less confident in the vote than I do.
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Here are some funny ones: http://www.despair.com/viewall.html

Regardless, you should try to stay on topic.
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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:51 am

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Amen!

Yeah you're right, mathcam, thanks for pointing it out. You are, in fact, scummier than PJ.

If CKD is town, I willkick myself for not having more faith in my meta of the guy. Kick myself really hard. Dang it.

And if he's town, we have to look at who was firmer in wanting to lynch him, who gave him the least chance, etc., keeping their play style in mind.

I will look more carefully later, I have RL things to tend to, but right off the bat, I would say that you were, in your usual self-controlled, logical manner, the player who most stood out of his own playstyle to make sure that CKD was lynched.
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:52 am

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hasdgfas wrote:needs posters
You need more post? Amen for that. If I'm correct.
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:53 am

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FOS Holy, BTW. Not as sure she's town as I once was.
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:18 am

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Official D4 Vote Count

Note:
Cult of the Couch Members:
1 (Mr_Gnome_It_All)


curiouskarmadog - 5
(hasdgfas (1), Battle Mage (2), Mathcam (5), Beep! Beep! (6), petroleumjelly (7))
Battle Mage - 1
(Iammars (3))
hasdfgas - 1
(curiouskarmadog (4))

Not Voting - 4
(Mizzy, Holy, Mastermind of Sin,
Cult of the Couch (1 vote)
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With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Deadline in ~26 hours, numbers in parentheses indicate order of votes. A plurality lynches at that point, and ties are broken by longest-held-last-vote.

Prodding all players who haven't posted in the last 72 hours.
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:40 am

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Amen!
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:41 am

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Ummm... Uhhh... Amen?

still got nothin :?
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:48 am

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I bet that NEITHER hasdagas or CKD are scum.

vote: mathcam
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He's a very analytic player. I bet this guy has no scumtells. Only very subtle ones, and I think I detected one. There is no hope that I could ever convince anyone. No one will follow me on this wagon, not the town, not the scum - but that's what I truly believe. You heard it from me first. MeMe's voting pattern was scummy, and now mathcam is "mathcam-scummy." This player slot is scum.
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:49 am

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Mr_Gnome_It_All wrote:Ummm... Uhhh... Amen?

still got nothin :?
What are you talking about? Your lack of paying attention is passively, but distinctly anti-town.
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:50 am

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seriously
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 6:50 am

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I'm paying attention.

I just have nothing to say.
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:02 am

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that's unacceptable!
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:03 am

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I wonder how many votes it would take to make a gnome sing... Amen!
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:05 am

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sing what? my role is open
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