Correct. It has nothing to do with allignment, except that it clear people from the possibility of being Mafia or SK. They could still be Devil, Cult, or any number of antitown. Or they could be Vig and I get that they CAN kill. I've also checked with Glork here, and the ability to kill means kill one's target. So if I investigated a weak doc who might kill himself, I'd get no kill ability as a result.scotmany12 wrote:I have a question for Gorrad. What does your role really do? You said that you can investigate someone and this tells you if they can kill or not? Correct?
Hm, I wonder why you wanna ignore The Jester's list and contribution. Oh wait, I know why:scotmany12 wrote:What I did do was try to find connections between jester and anyone, and honestly, nothing stood out at all. I do not think there is much to gain from him.
The Jester wrote:scotmany12 - Seems okay, asking questions where questions should be. "They were all random and meaningless." (Concerning the votes on himself.)
See, the problem I have with this is that this is not a Gunsmith, and you claimed Gunsmith. A Gunsmith is someone who investigates and can find out if a person has a gun or not. What you are describing is not what a Gunsmith does so I now have problems with your claim.Gorrad wrote:Correct. It has nothing to do with allignment, except that it clear people from the possibility of being Mafia or SK. They could still be Devil, Cult, or any number of antitown. Or they could be Vig and I get that they CAN kill. I've also checked with Glork here, and the ability to kill means kill one's target. So if I investigated a weak doc who might kill himself, I'd get no kill ability as a result.scotmany12 wrote:I have a question for Gorrad. What does your role really do? You said that you can investigate someone and this tells you if they can kill or not? Correct?
Where did I say ignore? Thanks for putting words in my mouth. If you read what he has posted in this thread, you will realize he left us nothing to use. To him, the majority of the players were okay to him. He has flameaxe as, what, a soufle, YWN as cautious, Sir T as grey, Miztef as "suspicious and less so now", akonas as not suspicious, you as looking better, and me as okay. How you single me out from this list I don't know. There is really hardly any difference between one player and another.Incognito wrote:Hm, I wonder why you wanna ignore The Jester's list and contribution. Oh wait, I know why:scotmany12 wrote:What I did do was try to find connections between jester and anyone, and honestly, nothing stood out at all. I do not think there is much to gain from him.
The Jester wrote:scotmany12 - Seems okay, asking questions where questions should be. "They were all random and meaningless." (Concerning the votes on himself.)Unvote; Vote: scotmany12
Yeah, I know what a gunsmith usually does. In this case, I was given the role title of gunsmith and the ability to find out if people can kill. I dunno why Glork chose to put it that way, but I've confirmed what the ability does with him. Maybe it's because, of the role names themselves, only what, two or so? have guns. Whereas almost all, if not all of them have the ability to kill in the game. I'm finding which one kills in THIS game. Does that make sense?scotmany12 wrote:See, the problem I have with this is that this is not a Gunsmith, and you claimed Gunsmith. A Gunsmith is someone who investigates and can find out if a person has a gun or not. What you are describing is not what a Gunsmith does so I now have problems with your claim.Gorrad wrote:Correct. It has nothing to do with allignment, except that it clear people from the possibility of being Mafia or SK. They could still be Devil, Cult, or any number of antitown. Or they could be Vig and I get that they CAN kill. I've also checked with Glork here, and the ability to kill means kill one's target. So if I investigated a weak doc who might kill himself, I'd get no kill ability as a result.scotmany12 wrote:I have a question for Gorrad. What does your role really do? You said that you can investigate someone and this tells you if they can kill or not? Correct?
Eh? I thought I covered this already: Post 295.Ether wrote:I don't get Incognito's vote.
(Yes, I'm aware that we're on the same wagon.)
Okay, so you didn't say "ignore" but you said that nothing practical can be derived fromscotmany12 wrote:Where did I say ignore? Thanks for putting words in my mouth.
If you search the posting history of flameaxe and his alt fromscotmany wrote:Ok, I'm in three games with Flame right now. In all three, he has posted very little to absolutely nothing during the past week. So yeah, he hasn't been plenty active. I don't know where MM is getting this activity from.
:arrow: You doubt Gorrad's claim.scotmany wrote:What you are describing is not what a Gunsmith does so I now have problems with your claim.
Yes, I know. In my role PM, it specifically states that I am a gunsmith and I have the ability to find out if people can kill. I then talked to Glork, and confirmed that that meant people who can kill their targets. I know it's not Gunsmith in the traditional sense. If it were up to me, I probably would have called it something different. But it was NOT up to me.scotmany12 wrote:Yes, since I doubt's Gorrads because his rolename does not fit his role. And Gorrad, plenty of people carry guns. Cops, Vigs, Mafia, any variant of the doc role, etc.
@Incognito, the Jester did not take a solid stance on anyone besides maybe Gorrad. Interestingly, you seemed to ignore Akonas in that list. He was just as guilty as much as me/flame/sirt were of lurker, and the jester had him as not suspicious.
Let me re-phrase it then: Incognito has been in Sir Tornado's tail a bit too long for them to be mafia buddies. Unless he's pulling an Exordio's and it's all a grand and nicely orchestrated bus.Ether wrote:Incognito and Tornado didn't bicker.
No need for big posts. Anything with more content than 'LOL' would have sufficed for the time being. Saying "I agree/disagree with <subject's name here>, will develop more later" doesn't take that much of your time.Flameaxe wrote:I can't catch up and make big posts for all of my games at once, that is very much impossible.
so wait, you are accusing me of lurking because I posted a lot in a span of a little over a day? Really?Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:If you search the posting history of flameaxe and his alt fromscotmany wrote:Ok, I'm in three games with Flame right now. In all three, he has posted very little to absolutely nothing during the past week. So yeah, he hasn't been plenty active. I don't know where MM is getting this activity from.
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:arrow: You doubt Gorrad's claim.scotmany wrote:What you are describing is not what a Gunsmith does so I now have problems with your claim.
:arrow: Protown players would not fake claim.
:arrow: You think Gorrad might still be antitown alignment.
:arrow: I claimed result that confirmed Gorrad to be protown alignment.
:arrow: You must doubt my claim as well.
Is the final deduction, "you must doubt my claim", also your stance scotmany?
... are you in fact reading the thread? I covered Akonas already.scotmany12 wrote:@Incognito, the Jester did not take a solid stance on anyone besides maybe Gorrad. Interestingly, you seemed to ignore Akonas in that list. He was just as guilty as much as me/flame/sirt were of lurker, and the jester had him as not suspicious.
And there inlies the kicker.scotmany12 wrote:EBWOP: Any variant of the cop role. Doc's probably do not carry guns. My mistake.
Gorrad, I doubt that Glork would put a gunsmith in and then change the role almost completely. And you can stop restating that you talked to Glork. It can't be proven or disproven.
Yes I am accusing you of lurking, because you posted 30 times in a span of a little over a dayflameaxe wrote:so wait, you are accusing me of lurking because I posted a lot in a span of a little over a day? Really?
scotmany wrote:Yes, since I doubt's Gorrads because his rolename does not fit his role.
So how come Miztef and Incognito are your highest suspicions if you think both Gorrad and I are fake claiming?scotmany wrote:I'm thinking Miztef or Incognito
Already working on it. Sorry, had Limited Access during the middle of the week.Incognito wrote:Mod:Could you prod Sir Tornado or find a replacement?
Never promised a big post? I thought you implied to make a big post in this quote:flameaxe wrote:I never promised a big post,
flameaxe wrote:I can't catch up and make big posts for all of my games at once, that is very much impossible.
You have anything else after your reread/catchup besides an OMGUSy vote on an uncounterclaimed power role?flameaxe wrote:I HAVE re-read, and I AM caught up. Vote: M-M The biggest thing you've done in this game is throw these bullshit cases up against me constantly.
Looking forward to your contribution.
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