Machiavellian-Mafia 3 (scotmany12, Gorrad, Miztef)
Flameaxe 1 (Machiavellian-Mafia)
populartajo 2 (Patrick, Incognito)
Miztef 1 (Ether)
Not Voting: Sir Tornado, Flameaxe, populartajo, The Jester, Your Worst Nightmare
12 alive, 7 to lynch.
Nice setting-up-for-tomorrows-lynch ploy. Plus why are you dodging my questions in Post 237 plus a couple of other people's questions as well?Miztef wrote:Alright, because tajo is at least being active and useful, I will not go into further detail about his lynch. I think that's better to wait until tommorow at least.
Post 249, Ether wrote:You should answer Patrick and me, too.
Post 236, Miztef wrote:For clarity's sake, I did isolate them, are you saying that may have clouded my view?
Sorry--in question form, why did you miss the Machiavote?Post 239, Ether wrote:I asked because you accused my predecessor of hypocrisy over his reason for voting Flameaxe--but a glance through Akonas's posts would have shown that he was trying to vote M-M at the time, and just making an observation.
Actually, I'd say he answered those two just fine by changing his vote.Post 237, M-M's questions to Miztef wrote:1. If you are against lynching Ether, why do you stil lhave vote on her?
2. From are first and third paragraph, it seems like you are willing to along with any lynch without firm conviction. Do you find no one worthy of a lynch right now?
To the first part: I wasn't pointing to one specific question with that, it just felt like you were repeatedly wheeling out that line. The fact that you only weakly attacked me is irrelevant, I still have the right to interrogate you about it. But if you want two questions: How have I been in any way overreacting? Why in particular am I connected to Incognito? It seems counterintuitive to me. The second part of your post is not really correct, the standard thing to do is not go after people who were wrong, because wrong isn't the same as scummy. Townies are wrong all the time. Youpopulartajo wrote:Answer to what? Really, ask me any questions (or quote them) and Ill give you an answer.
And it isnt a disclaimer. Its just simple, why are you guys suspecting me if the only thing I did was comment in possible suspicions. What about if we're wrong today? How can we find the truth? Easy, lets suspect the ones who were so in favor of doing the wrong thing.
It's perfectly fine for me to be suspicious of you because of a conversation you've had with someone else. Forgive me for not pulling up posts and things at this point, I'm on limited time here and the internet is very slow, but it can't be that hard to find. Incognito asked you about an inconsistency between how you acted around the YWN wagon and how you acted round the Gorrad one, and your answer was just, "nope, no inconsistency".populartajo wrote:Why are you basing your suspicions in a conversation and in a current disagreement with another player? I havent seen him asking about this quote of mine. I dont see any inconsestincy and if he wants to ask then let him ask me, Ill be happy to answer.
These don't seem justified. I know I'm town, but I'm certainly not assuming the others in my group are town because of it, because neither have acted in such a way that I think would be very unlikely to come from scum. Same for the other groups.populartajo wrote:WARNING. Theory time;:
Pick one of the followings groups. Big possibility of clearing the group if any of them comes up town. At this moment, and at the rate we're going, I think that we wont lynch a scum today, but lets try to pick the best lynch for today.
Group A : Patrick, Incognito, Miztef
Group B : Flameaxe, Gorrad, Scotmany, maybe Sir Tornado
Group C : M&M, YourWorstNightmare
Group D: Jester and Ether (still dont have a read on them)
You can add this to the current schedule of town or simply ignore it, but I think at this point of the game is a pretty interesting suggestion.
Ok, so 44 minutes after you say this, you vote for MM. What made you change your mind? Was it Gorrad's vote on him, and perhaps you thought it was an easy wagon to push? You make me look higher on your suspicions than him in your list. So what happened between those 44 minutes that made you change your mind?Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Scotmany: I don't see how I'm hypocritical with respect to my attacks on flameaxe:
Did flameaxe make a sneaky and suspicious vote? Yes
Did I do that? NoMachiavellian-Mafia wrote:a sneaky and suspicions vote? It really wasn't, please stop pushing it.
I disagree. Until recently, I really do not see you doing anything helpful.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Did flameaxe post mostly fluff? Yes
Did I do that? No
Is flameaxe not helpful in scumhunting? Yes, zero serious votes or FoSes
Am I not helpful in scumhunting? No, I have made clear who I'm suspicious of, plus I expressed positions on everyone else.
Wait, what? You have him down as scummy, then you say you like him for now? Which one is it?Miztef wrote:Sir Tornado: Although a bit lacking in content, I find what he does have to be well thought out. I'm leaning towards scummy (accurate and lurky) but I like him for now.
Miztef wrote:MM: Evidence against him is overused and shallow, Neutral for now.
A sneaky and suspicions vote? It really wasn't, please stop pushing it.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Scotmany: I don't see how I'm hypocritical with respect to my attacks on flameaxe:
Did flameaxe make a sneaky and suspicious vote? Yes
Did I do that? No
I disagree. Until recently, I really do not see you doing anything helpful.[/quote]Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Did flameaxe post mostly fluff? Yes
Did I do that? No
Is flameaxe not helpful in scumhunting? Yes, zero serious votes or FoSes
Am I not helpful in scumhunting? No, I have made clear who I'm suspicious of, plus I expressed positions on everyone else.
Nothing really changed my mind about him, it just seemed people were leaning towards him much more then others on my suspicion list, therefore, I shouldn't waste my time trying to get others lynched.scotmany12 wrote:Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Scotmany: I don't see how I'm hypocritical with respect to my attacks on flameaxe:
Did flameaxe make a sneaky and suspicious vote? Yes
Did I do that? NoMachiavellian-Mafia wrote:a sneaky and suspicions vote? It really wasn't, please stop pushing it.
I disagree. Until recently, I really do not see you doing anything helpful.Machiavellian-Mafia wrote:Did flameaxe post mostly fluff? Yes
Did I do that? No
Is flameaxe not helpful in scumhunting? Yes, zero serious votes or FoSes
Am I not helpful in scumhunting? No, I have made clear who I'm suspicious of, plus I expressed positions on everyone else.
Wait, what? You have him down as scummy, then you say you like him for now? Which one is it?Miztef wrote:Sir Tornado: Although a bit lacking in content, I find what he does have to be well thought out. I'm leaning towards scummy (accurate and lurky) but I like him for now.
Ok, so 44 minutes after you say this, you vote for MM. What made you change your mind? Was it Gorrad's vote on him, and perhaps you thought it was an easy wagon to push? You make me look higher on your suspicions than him in your list. So what happened between those 44 minutes that made you change your mind?Miztef wrote:MM: Evidence against him is overused and shallow, Neutral for now.
Yes:Ether wrote:As for YWN, my answer is again "no, not really." Wait,didwe ever get out of him why he voted Incognito instead of Flameaxe?
But look at me, still talking when there's science to do!Your Worst Nightmare wrote:Because placing a forth vote on someone (and keeping it) after10posts of actual game is already scummy in of itself (considering that 7 votes ends the day).Notfinding that somewhat suspicious is scummier still.
Why am I in the same group as M-M? And why does lynching either of us clear the other one? What do I have to do with him, and what does he have to do with me? What does sharing one opinion during a limited amount of time have to do with affiliations? Where does that chart make any ounce of sense? Where is my pink shirt?populartajo wrote:Pick one of the followings groups. Big possibility of clearing the group if any of them comes up town. At this moment, and at the rate we're going, I think that we wont lynch a scum today, but lets try to pick the best lynch for today.
Group A : Patrick, Incognito, Miztef
Group B : Flameaxe, Gorrad, Scotmany, maybe Sir Tornado
Group C : M&M, YourWorstNightmare
Group D: Jester and Ether (still dont have a read on them)
You can add this to the current schedule of town or simply ignore it, but I think at this point of the game is a pretty interesting suggestion.
Nice sig.Post 253, Patrick wrote:I'm typing this from the library, and I'm aware that this header makes me sound just like Ether.
I feel the same. I got through Communiqué with my anti-Miztef mindset intact, but then Incognito had to go and bring up Pooky's game. That's...okay, yeah,Post 253, Patrick wrote:Reading through what I've missed, I'm starting to find all the current candidates less appealing.
Odd conclusion. Ever was attacking Miztef just a few posts ago, Gorrad doesn't appear to have even seen the wagon yet, and a quarter of the town doesn't have votes out.Post 261, Jester wrote:Vote: MMThat makes 5, and I don't think people voting MM would vote Miz instead.
I'm not sure what you mean by that line.Ether wrote:Nice sig.Post 253, Patrick wrote:I'm typing this from the library, and I'm aware that this header makes me sound just like Ether.
I feel the same. I got through Communiqué with my anti-Miztef mindset intact, but then Incognito had to go and bring up Pooky's game. That's...okay, yeah,Post 253, Patrick wrote:Reading through what I've missed, I'm starting to find all the current candidates less appealing.unvote.
Miztef should explain his progression better, though. ¬_¬
Odd conclusion. Ever was attacking Miztef just a few posts ago, Gorrad doesn't appear to have even seen the wagon yet, and a quarter of the town doesn't have votes out.Post 261, Jester wrote:Vote: MMThat makes 5, and I don't think people voting MM would vote Miz instead.
M-M, claim.
I don't understand this quick flip either. Did you even in fact read through the games that I linked to in order to determine if you received the same vibe coming from him in this game as his past games or do you simply not care who is lynched today? What do you find to be scummy about Mach-Mafia?The Jester wrote:Deadline tomorrow.
We won't have enough, and no lynches are bad.
Unvote
Vote: MMThat makes 5, and I don't think people voting MM would vote Miz instead.
Which wagon? The M-M wagon? I've seen it, what makes you think otherwise? I haven't commented on it because I'm happy about it.Ether wrote:Odd conclusion. Ever was attacking Miztef just a few posts ago, Gorrad doesn't appear to have even seen the wagon yet, and a quarter of the town doesn't have votes out.Post 261, Jester wrote:Vote: MMThat makes 5, and I don't think people voting MM would vote Miz instead.
M-M, claim.
There's something I strongly dislike about this post. I dont know what yet. I sincerely believe miztef is scummier than mm but deadline is kicking our asses.miztef wrote:'m much less consistent as town for the simple reason that I have very little idea what I'm doing. When I'm scum I know exactly what I should be doing. I just assumed that's how it is with most people.
No I dont.jester wrote:Unless you think No lynches are good?
Cake is most delicious, thus I must Vote: Sir Tornado
Ok, is that the fourth vote already on scotmany after only 33 posts?
Unvote, Vote: Flameaxe for being a sneaky 4th voter on the bandwagon.
First letters of my first 3 posts are C, O, D. Spell that backwards = DOC.Dang it, forgot to bold:
EBWOP: Unvote, Vote: Flameaxe
I'll have to clarify something with the mod before I can say whether that is a good strategy.Gorrad wrote:M-M, consider using yourself as a one-shot cop and saying who you will target beforehand. Might make things better.