Mini #553: Over!

[CoolBot]

Nothings Changed Again Vote Count!

Votes required:

7 to lynch

6, Eljcko

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Destructor, ting =), massive, Qman, Khelvaster, Talitha

2, Talitha

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crazy_vlad, Imat

1, Qman

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Coolbot

1, ting =)

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Matt_S

lol, MeMe

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Mert

Furthermore, you just said you are a member of the fellowship and you are a vanilla townie. You haven't gone and said *which* member of the fellowship you were.

Isn't this exactly what matt said? Now, eljcko may just be scum following matt's laed, but I don't see why you'd believe eljcko over matt.

[Talitha]

What did you think of Matt_S's claim, eljcko?

[eljcko]

What did you think of Matt_S's claim, eljcko?

I have trusted Matt being town for most of the game. When I suspected him he did suspicious things that needed to be called out. I am fine with Matt S's claim though, it proved my hunch was right (especially shaka's deleting thing)

Now I know this will probably lead to me copying Matt and following a claim and how convenient it is for me to do that. But me and Matt are on the same boat, we have a lot of the same views on the nameclaim nonsense and other things. I am not pulling the towns leg with my claim.

[Matt_S]

After a while I thought that my unnamed townsmanness was the mod being a bastard. Now the fact that a second person is the same seems to go against most of what's happened. I can't say I believe eljcko's claim, especially when he admits that it is very convenient. At this point I think an eljcko lynch would be the best option.

[Khelvaster]

I was against a name claim because it would screw our power roles over. Of course when I tell you this, you don't believe me. Read my first post, I say it will out the power roles. Most had some apprehensions, not all of us are named, so I am nervous that our power roles might get killed. Do you want the power roles killed? (<-- Rhetorical, don't answer.) The reason I am against the claim is because not all of us are named. I might as well claim here. I am a member of the fellowship alligned with the town. I have my vote and win when all threats are gone. I have a feeling this won't work because if someone with a name claims, then 3 vanillas claim, then a power role just got potentially spotted.

Wow...you seem to be more scummy than you have before with this post. Nameclaiming wouldn't out power roles.

Furthermore, you just said you are a member of the fellowship and you are a vanilla townie. You haven't gone and said *which* member of the fellowship you were. This is

exactly

what I was expecting a scum to do and why I advocated nameclaiming in the firstplace.

Vote: Eljcko

I am not named. I am a vanilla generic fellowship member. I thought it would out the power roles because I have no name and that possibly means other people don't have names.

A "generic member of the fellowship" is complete bullshit. I am a named fellowship member. It makes no sense for someone to be in the fellowship, with 9 possible names, and yet be unnamed.

[eljcko]

I was against a name claim because it would screw our power roles over. Of course when I tell you this, you don't believe me. Read my first post, I say it will out the power roles. Most had some apprehensions, not all of us are named, so I am nervous that our power roles might get killed. Do you want the power roles killed? (<-- Rhetorical, don't answer.) The reason I am against the claim is because not all of us are named. I might as well claim here. I am a member of the fellowship alligned with the town. I have my vote and win when all threats are gone. I have a feeling this won't work because if someone with a name claims, then 3 vanillas claim, then a power role just got potentially spotted.

Wow...you seem to be more scummy than you have before with this post. Nameclaiming wouldn't out power roles.

Furthermore, you just said you are a member of the fellowship and you are a vanilla townie. You haven't gone and said *which* member of the fellowship you were. This is

exactly

what I was expecting a scum to do and why I advocated nameclaiming in the firstplace.

Vote: Eljcko

I am not named. I am a vanilla generic fellowship member. I thought it would out the power roles because I have no name and that possibly means other people don't have names.

A "generic member of the fellowship" is complete bullshit. I am a named fellowship member. It makes no sense for someone to be in the fellowship, with 9 possible names, and yet be unnamed.

Let's try this again. I do not have a name. I did not get any sort of specific name. I am a member of the fellowship.

[shaka!!]

I'm setting a 2 week deadline. This day is almost in its 3rd month. You have until the midnight of March 31st to organize a lynch. The person with the most votes on them by the deadline will be the days lynch.

[massive]

Yeah, I get the feeling that eljcko is just repeating what Matt_S has been saying, even though it makes no sense thematically -- remember, we were just going to have a conversation about "unnamed in the fellowship" with Matt_S before the mod proved him town.

I'm content with my vote.

[Khelvaster]

HoS: Massive

The mod "proved" that Matt_S is town, huh?

Anyway, not all town is fellowship. With Eljicko saying he is a member of a fellowship but not having a name, he's screwing around with us. Unnamed townie, sure. Unnamed fellowship, not happening.

[Talitha]

Check out the vote count, mod - you've got two eljckos in here.

Fixed

[Talitha]

I think eljcko is being too reticent here to be a townie.

[ting =)]

Sorry for the long no post. I've been trying to find time for a proper reread. I'll post tomorrow.

[destructor]

eljcko's nameless townie claim seems completely inconsistent with his suspicious of Matt_S earlier in the game. His suspicious actually seemed to

increase

after Matt's claim. I was getting cold feet earlier, but in light of his claim I'd be content with this lynch.

We've got a while before deadline, though. I wouldn't mind using that time to have another thorough reread. Just in case, y'know. What's that? Like reread number three? LOL. There's something about this game that makes hard reading. =/

[CoolBot]

Unnamed townie, sure. Unnamed fellowship, not happening.

matt claimed unnamed fellowship. He quoted his pm and it said that. The mod then deleted his post for quoting the mod. So we know, beyond any reasonable doubt, that unnamed fellowship exist.

That said, I am leaning towards eljcko making up a claim he knows is in the game. His earlier posts look like he was trying to prepare a claim outside the fellowship, but now that he knows there's unnamed in the fellowship, he's going with that. His idea that matt's claim might've been a safe claim given to scum seems rather suspect if he has the same exact thing.

[massive]

The mod "proved" that Matt_S is town, huh?

What Coolbot said. But I will take your, uh, HAND OF SUSPICION!

[Matt_S]

I prefer the phrase "lightly paraphrased" since it wasn't really a direct quote. However, I'll say this: I could have quoted my safeclaim. It doesn't really prove I'm town. But yeah, I claimed unnamed fellowship townsman.

[Khelvaster]

I didn't read that post, since the mod deleted it. It would be ethical play, in fact, to just ignore that post.

Even so, Eljcko is, without a doubt, today's lynch. I don't see discussion moving anywhere, and I really dislike the way he repeated what you said. He probably thinks that's a safeclaim or something

[Khelvaster]

It's like a vanilla townie claim, but slightly more dubious.

[shaka!!]

Unnamed townie, sure. Unnamed fellowship, not happening.

matt claimed unnamed fellowship. He quoted his pm and it said that. The mod then deleted his post for quoting the mod. So we know, beyond any reasonable doubt, that unnamed fellowship exist.

If he quoted me he'd have broken the rules and would've been mod killed.

[ting =)]

I'm still keeping my vote on eljcko; I don't buy his claim for the reasons everyone's already stated. After rereading through the game, there are

lots

of instances where his current defense and his earlier posts don't match up, but I'd rather not post them and make long walls of text especially since there's no need since he's still the imminent lynch.

After my reread, I decided that the people I think are most likely to be scum are coolbot, imat, massive. I'm not sure yet how to arrange them until we find out new stuff come day 2.

Just out of curiousity, who does everyone think is most likely to be scum? Besides the people we're currently voting for.

[massive]

If he quoted me he'd have broken the rules and would've been mod killed.

If he DIDN'T quote you, you shouldn't have deleted his post.

In an unrelated note: Seriously, how many more people do we need to show up in-thread and say they're still voting for eljcko? Is everyone else just content to wait for deadline? I really hate this waiting.

[CoolBot]

Me too, and nothing more seems likely to happen. Therefore,

unvote: Qman
vote: eljcko

[Imat]

For reference in day 2: Shaka says Matt didn't quote him. This doesn't confirm Matt as either side, since he did paraphrase but he may have been able to get at the jist of the Town PM with his post, making him either Town or Scum. Again, Shaka's deletion does NOT confirm him either way.

Also for reference day 2: Ting, why do you find us three the most suspicious?

And finally, in case of NK: I'm still looking at Talitha with suspicion. I made a case against her, it was, admittedly, very weak, but there are still some play style things I've noticed. Mostly, I can't really find much in the way of Scum Hunting from her.

[shaka!!]

"Go!"

"So uhh, whats your name?"
"I don't got one."
"Oh, ok."
"Erm, me neither!"
"Lynch him!"

eljcko,

Townsman,

lynched day 1

You have until March 27th (10 pm) to hand in all night actions.

[shaka!!]

"Hey, who ain't here!?"
"Uhmm.."
"Crazy vlad!"

crazy_vlad,

Serial Killler

, killed night 1

"Who else??"
"Oh! Talitha ain't here either!"
"Or Coolbot!"

Talitha,

Cop,

killed night 1

Coolbot,

Mafia Godfather,

killed night 1

Go!