Mini 567 - iPick - Game Over: The Stunning Conclusion

[Guardian]

Notice

Thunder booms violently overhead. A bolt of lightning zooms towards the ground. It singes one of your heads! Damn, this unnatural controlled lightning just keeps getting closer!

[vollkan]

Shaft.ed is a double-voter. I think we just hit twilight.

6 votes by my count.

The last votecount had "7 to lynch" at the bottom...but we only have 11 alive.

Regardless,
/second the call for a claim.

Thunder booms violently overhead. A bolt of lightning zooms towards the ground. It singes one of your heads! Damn, this unnatural controlled lightning just keeps getting closer!

I take it this means that our votes are probably controlling the lightning?

[Guardian]

Vote Count 6

With the light of the lightning bolt, you can see the TV screen, if only for an instant:

Paradoxombie[6] (NabakovNabakov, cicero, Rogueben, shaft.ed, Adel)
Xtoxm[2] (hasdgfas, Paradoxombie)
shaft.ed[1] (vollkan)
Adel[1] (Lawrencelot)
xyzzy[1] (Xtoxm)

7 to lynch

[NabakovNabakov]

Oh, silly me.

I was counting my vote confirmation as a fresh vote.

[Paradoxombie]

You've seen Xtoxm's aggregated play here - you couldn't tenably argue that he is a fully competent player. He might be scum, sure, but so far all we have seen just looks like ordinary stupidity from someone who doesn't have a clue what they are doing.

I don't think someone with 1000+ in game posts can truly not know what they are doing. I agree he's incompetent, but I think this is below his level.

Why do you ignore the possibility that his "I'm not going to read the thread anymore" was just him expressing frustration at what seems to have looked to him like a quick day-vigging?

I don't ignore the possiblity. But I don't think Xtoxm was venting when he said he wasn't going to read. If you're already dead, how does saying youre not going to read express anger? It's clear that Xtoxm intended his previous post to be his last words, but afterwards he felt the need to add that he wasn't reading.

Now why would a player go out of their way to indicate they aren't reading, unless they think people will expect them to be reading later?


Anyway appaently I'm dead. I guess I'll take the game off me watched topics list. Later.

[shaft.ed]

Anyway appaently I'm dead. I guess I'll take the game off me watched topics list. Later.

Damn now it's going to be at least 72 hours til we get that claim.

[Paradoxombie]

I'll claim if someone will present a case on me.

[Adel]

1. bullshit massclaim posts, except for one that demonstrated that you have analytic ability. Early bullshit case against me.
2. chasing lurkers xyzzy and Xtoxm
3. chasing VI Xtoxm

[Paradoxombie]

well I guess there's no one better to go after anyway.


I'm Neville Longbottom. Some sort of doctor.


Now will someone please hammer me?!

[Adel]

do ou have power in addition to being some sort of doctor? A "yes" or a "no" will do.

[Paradoxombie]

oh yes, I have information. Whoever controls the wind is a protown player. Or so I'm told.

[Adel]

wikipedia entry for his rolename:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Longbottom

how many lines is your role PM? which type of formatting is most common? how many paragraphs is your role divided into?

[vollkan]

I don't think someone with 1000+ in game posts can truly not know what they are doing. I agree he's incompetent, but I think this is below his level.

You should know that number of posts means nothing in isolation. If Xtoxm's poor play here is inconsistent with his play elsewhere, then you may have a valid meta-argument - but mere number of posts doesn't show anything.

I don't ignore the possiblity. But I don't think Xtoxm was venting when he said he wasn't going to read. If you're already dead, how does saying youre not going to read express anger? It's clear that Xtoxm intended his previous post to be his last words, but afterwards he felt the need to add that he wasn't reading.

Now why would a player go out of their way to indicate they aren't reading, unless they think people will expect them to be reading later?

Ah okay, that clarifies it.

At the point when he left, nobody had raised doubt about the dayvig. That suggests he would have been more likely to perceive it as genuine. Now, what motivations might he have had in declaring he was taking the game off watched-topics?

You're correct that he might have been trying to dodge posting in the future. Frankly, I don't see the strategic point in that for scum. It just means that he lurks for a few days and then gets dragged back in under threat of replacement, under the limelight. He hadn't died when he made his declaration. That speed with which he left again suggests frustration. Thus, the most viable alternative I can see is that he was just annoyed at being day-vigged and he left the game, refusing to make further contributions - despite not having died.

I'm Neville Longbottom. Some sort of doctor.

This reminds me:

I was saying that it could be that Harry Potter or similar type roles are scum.

[Paradoxombie]

5 paragraphs:

1 giving my rolename
1 listing a power
1 listing another power
1 giving info
1 listing my win condition(there may be werewolves or cultists, btw)

[xyzzy]

Hey, Adel, a request like that is really unethical and breaks the spirit of the game. Stop.

So did I lose my vote?

[vollkan]

Looks like it...unless Guardian just made a typo.

[Rogueben]

Paradox - Can you paraphrase how you protect people as Neville. I can't see Neville as a doctor at all.

[hasdgfas]

wait a second, some sort of doctor? I personally don't believe that at all. I need to hear more specifics about the sort of doctor that you are, because saying what you said in the way you did appears to be a "I need a claim to keep me alive" claim.

[Lawrencelot]

I should point out that Lawrencelot played with me in Friends and Enimies where I owned as scum, and in Big Love where I was nk'd as a townie/lover night one, so he has seen me play as newbie-scum and briefly as near-newbie-town but I don't think he has seen me play under either alignment with my mature playstyle.

This is true. Maybe I just got scummy vibes from you because you played differently.

Unvote

for reasons besides this one.

I don't like Para's behaviour, but I won't vote him. We shouldn't risk losing a doctor. And his latest post makes me think he's town.

Vote: hasdfgas

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Since Harry Potter is town, I think there's more chance that his enemies are antitown. Neville is no enemy, so the only reasons Para would be scum is if he's lying about his name or if Neville is antitown because that makes no sense.

Para, do you think there's a good chance that there is an SK or survivor in this game, if there are no werewolves or cults?

[hasdgfas]

I don't like Para's behaviour, but I won't vote him. We shouldn't risk losing a doctor. And his latest post makes me think he's town.

Vote: hasdfgas

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You do realize that we have 2 claimed Doctors, right? Xtoxm claimed Napoleon's Dynamite, Doctor, now paradoxombie claimes Neville Longbottom,

some sort of doctor.

I want clarification for that. Note how I'm not voting for para at the moment simply because I want clarification.

And which post makes you think he's town? The one saying how many paragraphs are in his role PM? Or a different one?

[shaft.ed]

Hey, Adel, a request like that is really unethical and breaks the spirit of the game. Stop.

So did I lose my vote?

I agree, Adel please keep your argument with Seol to the MD.

[shaft.ed]

So, I too don't like the "lurking case" that paradox put forth on Xtoxm, but can anyone posit what the point was? It seems there was ample evidence to make a case against him without that contrived bit.

I'm going to

unvote

for now while I think about this.

[Paradoxombie]

Paradox - Can you paraphrase how you protect people as Neville. I can't see Neville as a doctor at all.

The only differences are that I die if I target any antitown faction and my power doesn't work if I'm protected by someone else.

Para, do you think there's a good chance that there is an SK or survivor in this game, if there are no werewolves or cults?

Yeah, or maybe a Jester. Based on the number of players, I don't know how hard it would be to implement multiple antitown teams, but I'd bet the Gaurdian couldn't pass up puting some kind of Jester in here.


Anyway, Lawrencelot, why are you voting Has?

[Adel]

Hey, Adel, a request like that is really unethical and breaks the spirit of the game. Stop.

So did I lose my vote?

I agree, Adel please keep your argument with Seol to the MD.

*mutter mutter*

[shaft.ed]

So did I lose my vote?

You haven't voted in this game from what I can tell.