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Korts · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:15 am

eljcko wrote:
Korts wrote:I think UA's play isn't that scummy. Lovo's reactions and to some extent his claim justified his lynch.
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UA wrote:I, for one, while I don't care for the way to destroy the wonderful language that is English,
am not lynching you for the way you play, but because of your claim
. I believe there is a distinct chance that Campbell is Scum, and there is no way that he is Vanilla.
Please read bold statement.

Alright, I get that. And I said that his lynch was justified by his playstyle, not that UA's vote was. Also, if you look into it, UA's initial suspicion was raised by lovo's reactions.

Korts · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:55 am

God this game's stalled.

eljcko · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:12 pm

Korts wrote: Alright, I get that. And I said that his lynch was justified by his playstyle, not that UA's vote was. Also, if you look into it, UA's initial suspicion was raised by lovo's reactions.

I am not saying lovo's lynch was unjustified, he was acting like a fool. UA did nothing wrong, Roy Cambell might have been scum. Still waiting on Sly though.

SlySly · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:11 pm

eljcko wrote: Also, Sly, why do you call defending UA scummy? Is everyone who defends UA scummy?

From what I have seen in the games I have played, there are only 2 reasons a player would be defending another player and neither are good for the town IMO.

1. The player doing the defending is the scum buddy of the defendee.
2. The player doing the defending is in the same cult as the defendee.

UA was awfully bullheaded in his stance against lovo in Day 1. Does anyone else find it interesting that UA has yet to post in Day 2?

eljcko · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:52 pm

SlySly wrote:
eljcko wrote: Also, Sly, why do you call defending UA scummy? Is everyone who defends UA scummy?
From what I have seen in the games I have played, there are only 2 reasons a player would be defending another player and neither are good for the town IMO.

1. The player doing the defending is the scum buddy of the defendee.
2. The player doing the defending is in the same cult as the defendee.

UA was awfully bullheaded in his stance against lovo in Day 1. Does anyone else find it interesting that UA has yet to post in Day 2?

You forgot #3

3. The player doing the defending is of the thought that the defendee is town.

Just thought I might throw that out there. I also agree UA should post soon.

UltimaAvalon · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:57 pm

I, for one, blame the horrible timing of the beginning of Day 2 in relation to the release of Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

someone...I think Lloyd wrote:Yesterday, you advocated lovo14's lynch based on his claim more than his play. In hindsight, do you still see lovo14's claim the same way as you did yesterday?

Well, no, because now it's been revealed he's Not-Scum. However, I dont know what Innocent means. It could be Vanilla, it could be Survivor, it could just mean Town and this is a limited reveal game. If he truly was Vanilla, however, he did not react the way a Vanilla would've/should've reacted to bullheaded comments like mine, and that set the Scum Siren off. Being somebody who eventually fights FOXHOUND later in the comic doesn't help either.

SlySly wrote:From what I have seen in the games I have played, there are only 2 reasons a player would be defending another player and neither are good for the town IMO.

1. The player doing the defending is the scum buddy of the defendee.
2. The player doing the defending is in the same cult as the defendee.

Not really. Townies defend Townies, Scum defend Townies, Townies defend Scum. If a Townie views someone else as Town, and agrees with his opinions, he'll feel it only natural to need to defend him. Scum will defend Townies to make themselves look better to that person, look better to the Town if that person dies, or make that person look bad should he be killed.

Thanatos · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:26 am

UltimaAvalon wrote:I, for one, blame the horrible timing of the beginning of Day 2 in relation to the release of Super Smash Bros. Brawl.

someone...I think Lloyd wrote:Yesterday, you advocated lovo14's lynch based on his claim more than his play. In hindsight, do you still see lovo14's claim the same way as you did yesterday?
Well, no, because now it's been revealed he's Not-Scum. However, I dont know what Innocent means. It could be Vanilla, it could be Survivor, it could just mean Town and this is a limited reveal game. If he truly was Vanilla,
however, he did not react the way a Vanilla would've/should've reacted to bullheaded comments like mine, and that set the Scum Siren off.
Being somebody who eventually fights FOXHOUND later in the comic doesn't help either.

SlySly wrote:From what I have seen in the games I have played, there are only 2 reasons a player would be defending another player and neither are good for the town IMO.

1. The player doing the defending is the scum buddy of the defendee.
2. The player doing the defending is in the same cult as the defendee.
Not really. Townies defend Townies, Scum defend Townies, Townies defend Scum. If a Townie views someone else as Town, and agrees with his opinions, he'll feel it only natural to need to defend him. Scum will defend Townies to make themselves look better to that person, look better to the Town if that person dies, or make that person look bad should he be killed.

I like your defense of your actions, although I find the bolded part to be very vague. Could you go into more detail.

eljcko · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:27 pm

Great Admiral Overlord Mod Sarcastro

:

Can you send prods to all the players that have not posted on D2. We really need to get som discussion going.

On a side note, I agree with thantos.

Sarcastro · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:49 pm

Super God King has been prodded.

I will set a deadline if activity does not pick up, and I don't think you guys want that this early in the day. So start posting.

Lloyd · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:13 pm

UltimaAvalon wrote:Being somebody who eventually fights FOXHOUND later in the comic doesn't help either.

Is that sarcasm directed at the mod's setup? Frankly, I don't think the mod would make roles that easy to guess, so I don't find it as a valid reason.

SlySly · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:34 am

UA, though I am not perfect, I try to never defend other players as some read defense of others as a scumtell. Are you trying to breed confusion for the town?

Sarcastro · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Tue Mar 18, 2008 1:03 pm

Super God King will be replaced as soon as I can find a replacement. In addition, a deadline will be set for

12:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, April 1st

. Sorry, but you guys have brought this upon yourselves. More prods will be going out soon if people don't start posting.

ooba · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 2:22 am

Sorry for not posting guys ..

I'll be back in 36 hours - i shall post then ..

Andycyca · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:16 pm

SlySly wrote:UA, though I am not perfect, I try to never defend other players as some read defense of others as a scumtell. Are you trying to breed confusion for the town?

I don't think so, because actually I agree with him.

If you think someone else's thoughts are correct or that his play is good, you try to use your logic to defend a possible innocent.

SlySly · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:58 pm

Andycyca wrote:
SlySly wrote:UA, though I am not perfect, I try to never defend other players as some read defense of others as a scumtell. Are you trying to breed confusion for the town?
I don't think so, because actually I agree with him.

If you think someone else's thoughts are correct or that his play is good, you try to use your logic to defend a possible innocent.

Answering questions directly addressed to another person is very scummy, IMO.

Sarcastro · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 1:40 pm

JDodge replaces Super God King.

eljcko · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 3:59 pm

SlySly wrote:
Andycyca wrote:
SlySly wrote:UA, though I am not perfect, I try to never defend other players as some read defense of others as a scumtell. Are you trying to breed confusion for the town?
I don't think so, because actually I agree with him.

If you think someone else's thoughts are correct or that his play is good, you try to use your logic to defend a possible innocent.
Answering questions directly addressed to another person is very scummy, IMO.

Sly, I really do not understand your actions today. You are saying that everything the players are doing is a scumtell, like defending or stepping in to answer questions. Is Andy scum because he "defends" UA (i use defend lightly, more of an agree) or because he answered something adressed to UA?

SlySly · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:35 pm

eljcko wrote: Sly, I really do not understand your actions today. You are saying that everything the players are doing is a scumtell, like defending or stepping in to answer questions. Is Andy scum because he "defends" UA (i use defend lightly, more of an agree) or because he answered something adressed to UA?

Saying something is scummy is NOT saying someone IS scum, it is merely saying that I think their pointed out actions are scummy, IMO.

I clearly stated what I thought was scummy about Andy's action.

UltimaAvalon · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:54 pm

Thanatos wrote:I want detailz, kthx

Sorry, but UA's Book of Meta is a very thin book, and I like keeping it to myself

Lloyd wrote:Are you being sarcastic at Admiral Stukov?

Thats wasn't really that sarcastic, and it was directed at lovo's situation in general.

SlySly wrote:I'm perfect and I expect you to play by my standards

Good for you.

Hi JD

UltimaAvalon · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:56 pm

EBWOP

Where the hell is hasdgfas?

Korts · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:16 pm

UltimaAvalon wrote:EBWOP

Where the hell is hasdgfas?

He was NK-ed, remember?

Korts · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:18 pm

SlySly wrote:
Andycyca wrote:
SlySly wrote:UA, though I am not perfect, I try to never defend other players as some read defense of others as a scumtell. Are you trying to breed confusion for the town?
I don't think so, because actually I agree with him.

If you think someone else's thoughts are correct or that his play is good, you try to use your logic to defend a possible innocent.
Answering questions directly addressed to another person is very scummy, IMO.

How is that so scummy? It helps discussion by involving more people. We hear others' opinions on the same topic. Isn't that scummy?

SlySly · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:22 pm

UltimaAvalon wrote:
SlySly wrote:I'm perfect and I expect you to play by my standards
Good for you.

I did not say this. Misquoting someone is definitely scummy!!!

vote: UltimaAvalon

UltimaAvalon · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:23 pm

Korts wrote:
UltimaAvalon wrote:EBWOP

Where the hell is hasdgfas?
He was NK-ed, remember?

Really? Interesting....

Andycyca · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Thu Mar 20, 2008 7:53 am

Sly's scumradar is a little bit sensitive today, isn't it? I'd prefer you t biuld an actual case on someone rather than simply vote at the first sign of "scuminess"

FoS: SlySly

UltimaAvalon wrote:Where the hell is hasdgfas?

In Vermont, duh.