Mini 567 - iPick - Game Over: The Stunning Conclusion

[Lawrencelot]

Taking this off watched topics.

You don't even know if her daykill was real or fake...

What is OSV kill? 1-shot vig?

Anyway, even if Adel's kill was fake, I'm pretty sure Xtoxm is town. If it was real, we'll find out soon. Not that it matters, but I think the latter is more likely. The next question is: should we lynch Adel if Xtoxm is town? I'm not sure, I was a bit suspicious of Adel earlier, but I can understand her reasons for killing Xtoxm as town, although I don't agree with it. I also want to know how she jumped from not doc to dayvig as nabnab puts it, cuz it seemed she was right. I will keep my eye on Adel though.

About pikachu: since pokemon is a semi-semi-theme, I think there's good chance someone has a role like pikachu or his trainer Ash, controlling what he does either purposely or not.

[vollkan]

Anyway, even if Adel's kill was fake, I'm pretty sure Xtoxm is town. If it was real, we'll find out soon. Not that it matters, but I think the latter is more likely. The next question is: should we lynch Adel if Xtoxm is town? I'm not sure, I was a bit suspicious of Adel earlier, but I can understand her reasons for killing Xtoxm as town, although I don't agree with it. I also want to know how she jumped from not doc to dayvig as nabnab puts it, cuz it seemed she was right. I will keep my eye on Adel though.

If Adel has faked it, and Xtoxm is town, I think I may have an idea as to her motivation.

If Adel actually killed Xtoxm, and Xtoxm is town, then we need to look at this really carefully. The role justification she gave ("my role pm seems to indicate that if someone uses their daykill before me then I lose my ability") is a little far-fetched, but I suppose anything is possible here.

[Adel]

Taking this off watched topics.

You don't even know if her daykill was real or fake...

What is OSV kill? 1-shot vig?

Anyway, even if Adel's kill was fake, I'm pretty sure Xtoxm is town. If it was real, we'll find out soon. Not that it matters, but I think the latter is more likely. The next question is: should we lynch Adel if Xtoxm is town? I'm not sure, I was a bit suspicious of Adel earlier, but I can understand her reasons for killing Xtoxm as town, although I don't agree with it. I also want to know how she jumped from not doc to dayvig as nabnab puts it, cuz it seemed she was right.

I'm good at identifying powerroles, I just usually don't get a chance to publically demonstrate my ability.

[shaft.ed]

Well it looks like were waiting on Guardian. I'm still amazed Adel was able to pick out the OSV from Xtoxm.

[NabakovNabakov]

Taking this off watched topics.

You don't even know if her daykill was real or fake...

What is OSV kill? 1-shot vig?

Anyway, even if Adel's kill was fake, I'm pretty sure Xtoxm is town. If it was real, we'll find out soon. Not that it matters, but I think the latter is more likely. The next question is: should we lynch Adel if Xtoxm is town? I'm not sure, I was a bit suspicious of Adel earlier, but I can understand her reasons for killing Xtoxm as town, although I don't agree with it. I also want to know how she jumped from not doc to dayvig as nabnab puts it, cuz it seemed she was right.

I'm good at identifying powerroles, I just usually don't get a chance to publically demonstrate my ability.

How about a chance to explain it?

And I realize this is a silly question, but why would Xtoxm the vig fakeclaim as a doc?

[Adel]

xtoxm the town-aligned vig would not fakeclaim doctor.

xtoxm the sk with a day kill might

xtoxm the mafia-aligned day-killing gun man might

xtoxm could also have some bizzare role which doesn't make sense.


note that xtoxm hasn't made any last min case against any other player, which is totally common for day-killed town-aligned players.

[Adel]

Lynch Adel.

No I wasn't scum.

I also had OSV kill.

doesn't count as a last moment case.

[shaft.ed]

note that xtoxm hasn't made any last min case against any other player, which is totally common for day-killed town-aligned players.

I've got to agree with this sentiment. But claiming Doc as a SK is pretty unusual, if he's scum I'd expect mafia. Is Guardian ever going to updates us? He also had a pretty specific town claim "Things that don't make sense town" not simply town. If he is scum then they have safe claims for sure.

[xyzzy]

Adel seems rather protown now.

[shaft.ed]

Adel seems rather protown now.

For daykilling a player we don't know the alignment of yet?

[shaft.ed]

I have a feeling Guardian won't be telling us Xtoxm's alignment given how much time has passed since the kill. So we will probably have to proceed with the lynch without his info.

Alternatively Adel's daykill was a fake to test Xtoxm's and Guardian hasn't posted a death scene because he's not dead. This would be bolstered by the fact that Adel bothered analyzing his alignment instead of just waiting for Guardian to show up. Adel would it destroy your plans to confirm or deny?

[NabakovNabakov]

^^

Let's wait until the next official mod post to make determinations about Adel's validity.

If however, it was a bluff and/or Xtoxm is still alive, it would be a good idea to prod him as such considering that he'll have no way of knowing.

[Adel]

note that xtoxm hasn't made any last min case against any other player, which is totally common for day-killed town-aligned players.

other people were speculating on his alignment, so I joined in.

[Lawrencelot]

note that xtoxm hasn't made any last min case against any other player, which is totally common for day-killed town-aligned players.

Wait, day-vigged townies don't make a last min case? In the sense like, day-vigged scum does? I don't understand this, sorry.

I forgot whether I unvoted or not, so

Unvote

. I suggest the other people voting Xtoxm unvote too.

Adel seems rather protown now.

That means you think Xtoxm is scum? Or do you think both are town?

[vollkan]

note that xtoxm hasn't made any last min case against any other player, which is totally common for day-killed town-aligned players.

Wait, day-vigged townies don't make a last min case? In the sense like, day-vigged scum does? I don't understand this, sorry.

I think you've got it the wrong way round. ie. Adel is saying that it's common for dead townies to make a last-minute case (apparently) and the fact Xtoxm didn't do so is a point against him.

[Guardian]

Vote Count 5

The TV screen is too dark to see. Luckily, most of you have basic counting skills. You work together and determine that this is a pseudo accurate representation of the votes:

xyzzy[2] (Paradoxombie, Xtoxm)
Paradoxombie[2] (NabakovNabakov, cicero)
Xtoxm[2] (hasdgfas, Rogueben)
shaft.ed[1] (vollkan)

7 to lynch

[NabakovNabakov]

If however, it was a bluff and/or Xtoxm is still alive, it would be a good idea to prod him as such considering that he'll have no way of knowing.

One way to see it: Considering that it's Xtoxm we're talking about. If he had been scum, he would have said so right after being fake dayvigged.

@Adel: Straight up y/n:

Do you have a daykill?

[shaft.ed]

obviously not, he's still voting. I don't think a townie would leave the game like that.

vote: Xtoxm

[xyzzy]

Adel is town. Fakevigging is a towntell. I'm pretty sure Xtoxm is town, now, too.

[NabakovNabakov]

^^Don't let that meta get out or we'll be up to our asses in it.

obviously not, he's still voting. I don't think a townie would leave the game like that.

vote: Xtoxm

Someone who had been berated for being an idiot would.

[Paradoxombie]

I find Xtoxm's post just to tell us he's not going to watch the game anymore very suspicious. It seems like just a planned lurking tactic.

Maybe adel is scum with xtoxm. That would explain their play somewhat in my eyes.

I still don't understand what an OSV kill is.

[vollkan]

I find Xtoxm's post just to tell us he's not going to watch the game anymore very suspicious. It seems like just a planned lurking tactic.

I disagree here. He has declared an intention not to leave the game. Lurking usually involves some degree of posting (eg. "I'm here and finding it hard to keep up"). More likely, he will either play as normal, or not play at all. His actions here give him no justification for lurking, and if he attempts to get by without posting, he will be replaced.

I still don't understand what an OSV kill is.

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[NabakovNabakov]

Xtoxm is not lurking nor did he ever declare the intention to lurk. As far as he knew, he was dead. If anything, he quit.

[Adel]

Adel is town. Fakevigging is a towntell. I'm pretty sure Xtoxm is town, now, too.

I agree with xyzzy.

[cicero]

Fake dayvigging is a town tell?

Oh well then by christ

dayvig...um... vollkan

It's so good that you let me know these things.

Have you MET Adel?

Xyzzy...Adel scumbuddy pairing just went through the fucking roof for me.