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[Johoohno]

As mentioned in V/LA I'm not living at home right now, which is limiting my dropping in on the Net and this forum.

However,

Vote: lovo14

Vote Count

Johoonoo (1) - farside22

8 alive, 5 to lynch!

Note, the vote in this post will be counted in the next VC

[ooba]

As mentioned in V/LA I'm not living at home right now, which is limiting my dropping in on the Net and this forum.

However,

Vote: lovo14

Why lovo?

@lovo, I'm not going to start thinking about the bomb/ss right now ..

@Adele, Lets stop with the power speculation for a moment - Who do you think is the scummiest so far?

Infact , i think everyone should answer that question ..

[farside22]

Okay my problem is there hasn't been much talk about scum and who we think they are so I went more with the lurkers/ hiders as my top two.

Johoohno: Although he states he was on V/LA his vote on lovo makes no sense. Did we go back to random votes? No imput and no scum hunting detected in any of his post.

Pug: He's quiet and applogizes for being quiet, but still doesn't really give any input to the scum talks.

Adele: This is more because of the Phoenix power. I think it's possible she could end up as a SK, but without proff I'm letting her slide. I never found her scummie on day one. I just question her new power and what it could mean if it has consequences to the town.

[lovo14]

Okay my problem is there hasn't been much talk about scum and who we think they are so I went more with the lurkers/ hiders as my top two.

Johoohno: Although he states he was on V/LA his vote on lovo makes no sense. Did we go back to random votes? No imput and no scum hunting detected in any of his post.

Pug: He's quiet and applogizes for being quiet, but still doesn't really give any input to the scum talks.

Adele: This is more because of the Phoenix power. I think it's possible she could end up as a SK, but without proff I'm letting her slide. I never found her scummie on day one. I just question her new power and what it could mean if it has consequences to the town.

yer agreed though someone said we should drop the adel power issue. in terms of balancing, it would make more sense if she did go 3rd party. watever that looks like i have no idea.

and why the vote on me Johoohno...no explanation....

[farside22]

Okay my problem is there hasn't been much talk about scum and who we think they are so I went more with the lurkers/ hiders as my top two.

Johoohno: Although he states he was on V/LA his vote on lovo makes no sense. Did we go back to random votes? No imput and no scum hunting detected in any of his post.

Pug: He's quiet and applogizes for being quiet, but still doesn't really give any input to the scum talks.

Adele: This is more because of the Phoenix power. I think it's possible she could end up as a SK, but without proff I'm letting her slide. I never found her scummie on day one. I just question her new power and what it could mean if it has consequences to the town.

yer agreed though someone said we should drop the adel power issue. in terms of balancing, it would make more sense if she did go 3rd party. watever that looks like i have no idea.

and why the vote on me Johoohno...no explanation....

You see my quote. No imput. No attempt at anything. Just looking to post, to post. Even with his I was on V/LA he puts a post with no explaination. At this point we are past the random vote phase.

[lovo14]

for the noob V/LA is??
its well beyond random voting
FOS johoohno....though its fair obvious ey.
apart from that i duno

[Johoohno]

I was hoping to get discussion started in this lazy town, but nope, that hasn't happened. I've got a list of five items that lead up to my vote for lovo:

1. He early on promised to fix an avatar (post 27) but it was last to actually do that (post 97). Might be a way to see who would respond to decide how to act himself.
2. He hasn't adressed my questions post 62) at all.
3. Comments on the slowness (post 81) but does nothing else to push action in any direction.
4. Avoids voting day 1, but says Monkey is a good lynch (post 114 and (126). It also appears that he would vote closer to the deadline but wanted to avoid someone sneaking in and hammer Monkey (post 161) and then tries to move on to the "safe" topic of the day talking about Jean Grey turning Phoenix.
5. Finally he bumps the thread and once again fails to add any relevant content (post 162)

In my opinion these things sum up to suspicions and a vote to get reactions/answers.

[farside22]

for the noob V/LA is??
its well beyond random voting
FOS johoohno....though its fair obvious ey.
apart from that i duno

V/LA mean vacation/ leave of absence. Basically you are away from the computer with no access for a bit of time.
Will read up on Johoohno comment a bit later.

[Adele]

OK. I just died in 2 games. Even though I have limited access, I'm now going to be able to contribute better now.

@Adele, Lets stop with the power speculation for a moment - Who do you think is the scummiest so far?

I don't know, offhand. Cue reread

[Lloyd]

there are alot of role claims going around at the moment

Besides Korts, what other claims are you referring to? I don't consider Adele's role a claim, since the mod revealed her as Jean Grey.

[lovo14]

I was hoping to get discussion started in this lazy town, but nope, that hasn't happened. I've got a list of five items that lead up to my vote for lovo:

1. He early on promised to fix an avatar (post 27) but it was last to actually do that (post 97). Might be a way to see who would respond to decide how to act himself.
2. He hasn't adressed my questions post 62) at all.
3. Comments on the slowness (post 81) but does nothing else to push action in any direction.
4. Avoids voting day 1, but says Monkey is a good lynch (post 114 and (126). It also appears that he would vote closer to the deadline but wanted to avoid someone sneaking in and hammer Monkey (post 161) and then tries to move on to the "safe" topic of the day talking about Jean Grey turning Phoenix.
5. Finally he bumps the thread and once again fails to add any relevant content (post 162)

In my opinion these things sum up to suspicions and a vote to get reactions/answers.

ok 1. i commented on it took me a while to find a suitable avatar. the websites im on automatically resize any pic to fit the avatar except .gifs
i hardly think this a reason to vote someone, it was only done so the mod can recognise people.

2. sorry i missed your questions...though im unsure...ill re-read then double post

3. you can apply this to everyone pretty much

4. look at all my games i rarely vote day 1

5. and i have contributed just as much as anyone else on this day so far.

double post in a sec

[lovo14]

#1 How many of you have been in a themed game? (I have been in one)
#2 With name claim? (Yupp, happened in that themed game)
#3 That worked out to the benefit of the town? (It was partly beneficial, the name claim didn't isolated lead to the scums - they had some safe fake claims - but it helped some, at the cost of a few townies).

well played in many themed games, yer name claims were around
well they can help both ways.
see if someone has great knowledge of the theme in rl they are extremely useful to see if claims are valid. of coarse if this person is scum then scum have some good fake claims then. so yes ive been in games when name claims help town.
why this was so important and warranted a vote on day 2 i have no idea.
sure u might be fishing trying to get town to talk some more
but jee....your argument for my vote is a lil weak

[Pug89]

4. Avoids voting day 1, but says Monkey is a good lynch (post 114 and (126). It also appears that he would vote closer to the deadline but wanted to avoid someone sneaking in and hammer Monkey (post 161) and then tries to move on to the "safe" topic of the day talking about Jean Grey turning Phoenix.

This bothered be some too and if Monkey had turned up scum I would probably be voting for him too, but since Monkey turned up town and was so close to lynch I'm inclined to think lovo14, and Johoohno as well, is town. He could have easily placed the hammer vote on monkey and not drawn much suspicion, at least from me, since he had previously stated his intent to vote for him and the town largely was against a NL. Of course it's possible that he is scum who intended to place the hammer vote on Monkey and didn't have access to the site before deadline like he said when I asked him about it.

This is why I think it is likely that at least one scum was on Monkey's wagon. Of the 5 people who voted for Monkey, I know I'm town and I think Adele is town as well for the balancing reasons discussed previously, which assumes Adele was town previously, but it seems likely given her role. I will likely be voting for one of the remaining three (farside22, Lloyd, and logicticus) but I need to take a closer look before making my decision.

[farside22]

4. Avoids voting day 1, but says Monkey is a good lynch (post 114 and (126). It also appears that he would vote closer to the deadline but wanted to avoid someone sneaking in and hammer Monkey (post 161) and then tries to move on to the "safe" topic of the day talking about Jean Grey turning Phoenix.

This bothered be some too and if Monkey had turned up scum I would probably be voting for him too, but since Monkey turned up town and was so close to lynch I'm inclined to think lovo14, and Johoohno as well, is town. He could have easily placed the hammer vote on monkey and not drawn much suspicion, at least from me, since he had previously stated his intent to vote for him and the town largely was against a NL. Of course it's possible that he is scum who intended to place the hammer vote on Monkey and didn't have access to the site before deadline like he said when I asked him about it.

This is why I think it is likely that at least one scum was on Monkey's wagon. Of the 5 people who voted for Monkey, I know I'm town and I think Adele is town as well for the balancing reasons discussed previously, which assumes Adele was town previously, but it seems likely given her role. I will likely be voting for one of the remaining three (farside22, Lloyd, and logicticus) but I need to take a closer look before making my decision.

I like your point about the vote against Monkey, but we can't assume because someone didn't hammer that doesn't mean anything. However good point about at least one scum on the Monkey train.
I will look and do an analysis this week of each person. Hopefully in the next couple of days. Sorry thing got hectic this week on me and I will have more free time next week if anything.

[lovo14]

4. Avoids voting day 1, but says Monkey is a good lynch (post 114 and (126). It also appears that he would vote closer to the deadline but wanted to avoid someone sneaking in and hammer Monkey (post 161) and then tries to move on to the "safe" topic of the day talking about Jean Grey turning Phoenix.

This bothered be some too and if Monkey had turned up scum I would probably be voting for him too, but since Monkey turned up town and was so close to lynch I'm inclined to think lovo14, and Johoohno as well, is town. He could have easily placed the hammer vote on monkey and not drawn much suspicion, at least from me, since he had previously stated his intent to vote for him and the town largely was against a NL. Of course it's possible that he is scum who intended to place the hammer vote on Monkey and didn't have access to the site before deadline like he said when I asked him about it.

This is why I think it is likely that at least one scum was on Monkey's wagon. Of the 5 people who voted for Monkey, I know I'm town and I think Adele is town as well for the balancing reasons discussed previously, which assumes Adele was town previously, but it seems likely given her role. I will likely be voting for one of the remaining three (farside22, Lloyd, and logicticus) but I need to take a closer look before making my decision.

actually i was around. im pretty sure i said...dont want to vote/hammer. cause monkey could possibly be one shot vig. pro town etc. we had no idea. i said at the time that i thought monkey was the best lynch for the day.

[Johoohno]

monkey is |-2 im ok with him being lynched
ill hold my vote so someone doesnt hammer...ie ill hold til we push closer to deadline

are u asking why i didnt vote??
cause i was absent just before deadline...

actually i was around. im pretty sure i said...dont want to vote/hammer. cause monkey could possibly be one shot vig. pro town etc. we had no idea. i said at the time that i thought monkey was the best lynch for the day.

The first quote gives the impression that you'll vote closer to the deadline, but you're holding off your vote only to avoid quick hammering (something I've never seen in a day 1, but that's not really the thing in question here)

The second one says you didn’t vote because you were absent close to the deadline (in that post you also seem to want to move over to “the topic of the day”, a.k.a. Adele’s state of alignment.

The third quote is quite interesting. All of a sudden you say you were present closer to the deadline, but didn’t want to vote.

My vote remains where it is!

[lovo14]

ok so your main reason for voting me is because i didnt hammer someone on day 1.
scuse the language but why the fuck is it up to me to hammer?
this is what annoys me about mafia scum
this is 2 bullshit reasons for voting someone...(happened in another game)
yes ive over reacted but im sick of it.

putting someone on -1 is extremely scummy on day 1 so i did the right thing
the day in question was fricken forever ago. i might have been here i might not have been. i dont track my life according to mafia games.
and like i said why is it up to me to hammer
your vote REEKS of desperation
if your so worried about me not hammering monkey who turned up dead anyway why didnt u hammer him you had the chance
you also call me out for barely contrubuting...no less than you at all
day in question i was playing baseball all day so i wasnt around for the lynch.
so what other botched reasoning you got for a vote now??

[logicticus]

monkey is |-2 im ok with him being lynched
ill hold my vote so someone doesnt hammer...ie ill hold til we push closer to deadline

are u asking why i didnt vote??
cause i was absent just before deadline...

actually i was around. im pretty sure i said...dont want to vote/hammer. cause monkey could possibly be one shot vig. pro town etc. we had no idea. i said at the time that i thought monkey was the best lynch for the day.

The first quote gives the impression that you'll vote closer to the deadline, but you're holding off your vote only to avoid quick hammering (something I've never seen in a day 1, but that's not really the thing in question here)

The second one says you didn’t vote because you were absent close to the deadline (in that post you also seem to want to move over to “the topic of the day”, a.k.a. Adele’s state of alignment.

The third quote is quite interesting. All of a sudden you say you were present closer to the deadline, but didn’t want to vote.

My vote remains where it is!

Great post. Lots of inconsistencies there. And geez lovo, defensive much? You have one vote on you and you are going after that person. I dont know why you are going off on him so much for putting these facts together. Inconsistencies and defensiveness are both scum tells, so I feel great voting for you.

vote lovo14

[lovo14]

did u not read any of my posts...
i am getting defensive cause last time i got lynched for not being defensive

[Pug89]

I like your point about the vote against Monkey, but we can't assume because someone didn't hammer that doesn't mean anything.

I agree, but at the time of my post it is the strongest lead I had found but there might be reasons scum might not have hammered on a townie.

ok so your main reason for voting me is because i didnt hammer someone on day 1.

The main reason isn't because you didn't hammer but because you are inconsistant on the reason why you didn't vote for him when you said you probably would. You aren't just inconsistant from post to post but within post. In you last post you posted both:

the day in question was fricken forever ago. i might have been here i might not have been. i dont track my life according to mafia games.

and

day in question i was playing baseball all day so i wasnt around for the lynch.

[Lloyd]

putting someone on -1 is extremely scummy on day 1 so i did the right thing

It's odd how you are more concerned about possibly looking scummy yourself, than the reason why you would vote for someone who seems suspicious to you.

When I think someone is suspicious and I vote for them, I think more about articulating my arguments why I think they're scummy, rather than how my vote would be perceived.

there are alot of role claims going around at the moment

Besides Korts, what other claims are you referring to? I don't consider Adele's role a claim, since the mod revealed her as Jean Grey.

Re-quoting in case you missed my question the first time.

[lovo14]

the day in question was fricken forever ago. i might have been here i might not have been. i dont track my life according to mafia games.

and

day in question i was playing baseball all day so i wasnt around for the lynch.

[/quote]

thats cause i physically went off and checked it

llyod. even if someone is suspicious to me, putting them at -1 with 48 hours left in the day is scummy, there is no realy need for it. as scum can come hammer. or someone can come and mishammer.

it was korts, monkeys and adels,
didnt expect to learn 3 roles by day 2 morning

[logicticus]

Bump

Three days to deadline....looking for another no lynch...this is the easiest game for the mafia ever.

[farside22]

I'm sorry I got behind with a few games I'm in. I swear tomorrow to have more info and do a reread.

[Lloyd]

even if someone is suspicious to me, putting them at -1 with 48 hours left in the day is scummy, there is no realy need for it. as scum can come hammer. or someone can come and mishammer.

Suppose we reach a 48 hour deadline, are you going to not vote again?