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Post Post #1450 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:37 am

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RossWilliam wrote:At one time I found farside's revelation of quack doctor to be townie, now I find it scummy with has. There's only so much i can believe

I have not made any effort to notice what she's doing thats jesterlike. I'm not letting the jester keep me from hunting scum. The only thing I can think of is when she's constantly throwing up her hands in defeat. That could be jester or scum.

And I'm ready to lynch farside. I was really digging my heels trying to look for some reason not to lynch her, but it's all just too unlikely. It just doesn't seem possible. I'm amazed she's still alive. Remember how close we were to lynching wolfcrier?
Thanks, now I understand your thinking.
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Post Post #1451 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:39 am

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Beep! Beep! wrote:Any particular reason why you're not re-voting Farside22, Battle Mage?
Im not going to commit myself till ive had a proper think about it.

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Post Post #1452 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:54 pm

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Beep! Beep! wrote: Hasdagas is not a vig, he gets a surprise power depending on his ability to get players to shout Amen.
Ah, right. I forgot about that. That makes the timing of his reveal a little more plausibly pro-town.

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Post Post #1453 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:08 pm

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he's lying through his teeth.

when have you ever see nbattlemage properly think about anything.

he is just stallingto try to keep his scumbududy from hanging.
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Post Post #1454 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:20 pm

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rofl! This from Pooky- the guy who wasted about a WEEK with some crazy idiotic gambit which frankly, we were lucky didnt result in power roles being outted. :shock:

The vanishing Houdini of Thespival saying I'm stalling?

oh dear. lol

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Post Post #1455 (ISO) » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:36 pm

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What? I did think through all of the downsides/upsides before gambitting.

When you're dealing with multiple nightkills you want to be proactive in going after them.

What was idiotic about the gambit?
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Post Post #1456 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:39 am

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Battle Mage wrote:rofl! This from Pooky- the guy who wasted about a WEEK with some crazy idiotic gambit which frankly, we were lucky didnt result in power roles being outted. :shock:

The vanishing Houdini of Thespival saying I'm stalling?

oh dear. lol

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rofl! This from Battle Mage- the guy who wasted a vote with some crazy idiotic attack on hasgfas, claiming that a post restricted vig (not that he claimed vig, mind you) would be impossible in a setup themed after a MeatWorld Meet where we played Mostlly Mute Mafia.

The illogical Jester of Mafiascum saying Pooky's crazy and idiotic?

oh dear. lol

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Post Post #1457 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:33 am

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unvote

vote PJ


lets roll

farside probly isnt scum
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Post Post #1458 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:43 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:rofl! This from Pooky- the guy who wasted about a WEEK with some crazy idiotic gambit which frankly, we were lucky didnt result in power roles being outted. :shock:

The vanishing Houdini of Thespival saying I'm stalling?

oh dear. lol

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rofl! This from Battle Mage- the guy who wasted a vote with some crazy idiotic attack on hasgfas, claiming that a post restricted vig (not that he claimed vig, mind you) would be impossible in a setup themed after a MeatWorld Meet where we played Mostlly Mute Mafia.

The illogical Jester of Mafiascum saying Pooky's crazy and idiotic?

oh dear. lol

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quit talking crap MoS. I didnt 'waste a vote'. If youd been paying attention, youd know that when you make a vote in a mafia game, you can retract it-it is very rarely permanent and irreversible. :roll:
And yes, a Vig with a PR doesnt make alot of sense. You actually dont have a clue what you are talking about. -.-

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Post Post #1459 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:10 am

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Hm, PJ seems good at propaganda skill, lol. He might be scum, I'm not that sure. But I'm pretty sure with todays catch, farside's claim as quack in the middle of this day feels too sudden, plus her Changing Story of who were targeted/protected by her, not seems pro-town.

I would like to roll, but deadline is in ~6 days, what would we gain with voting PJ now but a sneaking scum?
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Post Post #1460 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:39 am

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PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
unvote

vote PJ


lets roll

farside probly isnt scum
*eyebrow*

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Post Post #1461 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:29 am

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Official D3 Vote Count

Note:
Cult of the Couch Members:
1 (Mr_Gnome_It_All)


farside22 - 5
(Holy, Mathcam, Mastermind of Sin, hasdgfas, curiouskarmadog)
Holy - 1
(farside22)
PookyTheMagicalBear - 1
(Iammars)
Mathcam - 1
(AmeliaSlay)
Beep! Beep! - 2
(petroleumjelly, RossWilliam)
petroleumjelly - 2
(Beep! Beep!, PookyTheMagicalBear)

Not Voting - 2
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Cult of the Couch (1)
, Battle Mage)


With 14 alive, it's 8 to lynch.

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Post Post #1462 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:46 am

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I'm ready to lynch farside. My vote on Beep isn't gonna doanything right now. She's not gonna budge about her scum scores. It's pretty lame. But I've given up on her.

unvote, vote: farside22
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Post Post #1463 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:49 am

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I promised you

where is your promise PJ?

also i thought about farside some more

she's probly not scum

cmon guys

lynch lynch PJ

he no promisey
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Post Post #1464 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:35 pm

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Pooks, are you claiming to
not
remember our conversations about how I am
not
going to make promises about my alignment in games any longer? Because that's the impression I'm getting from you.

Additionally, I never told you "promise". I told you to "look me in the eyes". As it stands, you did not have the word "promise" in your post.

If you would like me to
tell
that I am town, that is simple. I am town.
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Post Post #1465 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 3:22 pm

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Well, I've skimmed the past day or two of the thread. Still kinda lost, but that's nothing new for me.

My first impression is that farside is either scum or jester (for reasons many have already stated), but I'm in the camp that if lynching the jester doesn't end the game, it's hardly a direct loss to the town. With that I'll
Vote: Farside22
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On another note I'll say that mt next suspicion for scum is Beep! Beep!, but for some reason I can't quite put my finger on why. Just a wierd hunch, I guess.
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Post Post #1466 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:22 pm

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Battle Mage, paraphrased wrote:<Whole bunch of stuf about MeMe being scum because of the situation wen she asked for replacement>
Seriously. How can you possibly read anything into this? And this is without my bias towards MeMe (now mathcam).
mathcam wrote:Second, there's the 5 (now 6?) HD's
HD's? What are those? But otherwise, I agree with all the reasons that Pooky is scum, except that I think that he was mafia trying to out power roles.
petroleumjelly wrote:I need to emphasize something, because nobody seems to be getting it. I think the best move for the town is to lynch as if there is not a jester.
Thus the reason why I hate Jesters. Focusing on one type of scum will distract us from the other. However, the game is won/lost by who the moderator says wins/loses, so if the Jester wins, we still get second place. You may think of it as a victory, but the mod certainly won't and that's what counts.
Beep! Beep! wrote:MeMe: Scum that ran away.
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Beep! Beep! wrote:You keep saying I'm the Jester, when YOU are the Jester.
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By strenuous overexertion,
Repeating your plea
'Til I nod and agree,
Well, frankly, that's proof by assertion.
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petroleumjelly wrote:The only thing off the top of my head is Verbose 2
There was a mini run a long time ago that had this same mechanic. I'm thinking Aelyn ran it, but I'm not sure.
Beep! Beep! wrote:However, you are a Quack Doctor, unlike the dead McCoy, who was the real McCoy, and the real Doctor. Same card, different roles.
That's the whole point of the quack doctor! She's not supposed to know!
curiouskarmadog wrote:vote Beep Beep, I dont think you are the Jester now, you are just DGB, if the Mod assigned you the Jester role, he is a sick SOB.
Lol.
farside22 wrote:Don't expect people to believe you after my lynch. Good luck defending yourself with just two words.
He can speak more than two words, you know...

Basic feelings on some players:
farside22: I could get behind a farside22 lynch, but I really don't want to. There's a twanging pain in my gut that says we shouldn't lynch her, mainly due to the doctor claim.
Pooky: My vote here stays. I still think that he's scum to the bone. The gambit was what solidified it for me. The gambit would be something I would expect out of Blackberry or a player similar to him, not from Pooky. That's just stupid.
pj: Most of everything he's said seems fine to me. He seems protown.
Beep! Beep!: I don't know. These posts are on the edge. They keep flipping from pro-town to anti-town. I'm not sure whether or not I want to lynch her.
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Post Post #1467 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:47 pm

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Then why can't you stand looking in my eyes.

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Post Post #1468 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:21 pm

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Battle Mage wrote:quit talking crap MoS. I didnt 'waste a vote'. If youd been paying attention, youd know that when you make a vote in a mafia game, you can retract it-it is very rarely permanent and irreversible. :roll:
And yes, a Vig with a PR doesnt make alot of sense. You actually dont have a clue what you are talking about. -.-

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Post Post #1469 (ISO) » Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:55 pm

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MoS, are you the woman in that cartoon? If so, I like your sense of style. Very much brown paper bag meets nautical meets salma hayek, if you get what I'm saying. Well played.
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Post Post #1470 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:31 am

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Since it's likely that hasdagas is town, and there is some controversy as to whether Pooky is cleared or not, I have prepared two more sets of scum scores:

hasdagas as town, Pooky as unknown alignment:

130 PookyTheMagicalBear
100 petroleumjelly
97 RossWilliam
86 MeMe
80 Captain Bandwagon/farside
79 curiouskarmadog
73 BattleMage
45 Holy
40 Amelia
39 Mastermind of Sin
34 Iammars

hasdagas as town, Pooky as town:

149 RossWilliam
119 petroleumjelly
99 Captain Bandwagon/farside
91 MeMe
90 BattleMage
66 CKD
53 Holy
49 Mastermind of Sin
34 Amelia
30 curiouskarmadog
30 Iammars

If anything it will be fun to see at endgame how accurate it was.
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Post Post #1471 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:45 am

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Farside is at -1. As a PJ wagon doesnt look like its going to get anything useful done at this stage, i'm pretty much ready to hammer unless anyone has anything else pressing to say.

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Post Post #1472 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:55 am

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Battle Mage wrote:...unless anyone has anything else pressing to say.
I do!

Do it.
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Post Post #1473 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 5:57 am

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<is getting
really
tired of these Beep! Beep!-Battle Mage-Pooky interactions>

Battle Mage, Pooky is now defending Farside22. What do you think of that?
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Post Post #1474 (ISO) » Fri Mar 07, 2008 6:01 am

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petroleumjelly wrote:<is getting
really
tired of these Beep! Beep!-Battle Mage-Pooky interactions>

Battle Mage, Pooky is now defending Farside22. What do you think of that?
< is pretty tired of PJ's general arrogance, but had the decency not to mention that until now. :P

And yes, i had noticed Pooky's change of tack. It doesnt make me more confident of Farside-scum, but because its Pooky, its not as if hes going to communicate in a way i can understand, so we are left with no clue of WHY he doesnt want a Farside lynch. Even so, i think this is the best move for the town atm.

Vote: Farside22


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