Thanks, now I understand your thinking.RossWilliam wrote:At one time I found farside's revelation of quack doctor to be townie, now I find it scummy with has. There's only so much i can believe
I have not made any effort to notice what she's doing thats jesterlike. I'm not letting the jester keep me from hunting scum. The only thing I can think of is when she's constantly throwing up her hands in defeat. That could be jester or scum.
And I'm ready to lynch farside. I was really digging my heels trying to look for some reason not to lynch her, but it's all just too unlikely. It just doesn't seem possible. I'm amazed she's still alive. Remember how close we were to lynching wolfcrier?
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Im not going to commit myself till ive had a proper think about it.Beep! Beep! wrote:Any particular reason why you're not re-voting Farside22, Battle Mage?
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
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he's lying through his teeth.
when have you ever see nbattlemage properly think about anything.
he is just stallingto try to keep his scumbududy from hanging.Show"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
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rofl! This from Pooky- the guy who wasted about a WEEK with some crazy idiotic gambit which frankly, we were lucky didnt result in power roles being outted.
The vanishing Houdini of Thespival saying I'm stalling?
oh dear. lol
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What? I did think through all of the downsides/upsides before gambitting.
When you're dealing with multiple nightkills you want to be proactive in going after them.
What was idiotic about the gambit?Show"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
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rofl! This from Battle Mage- the guy who wasted a vote with some crazy idiotic attack on hasgfas, claiming that a post restricted vig (not that he claimed vig, mind you) would be impossible in a setup themed after a MeatWorld Meet where we played Mostlly Mute Mafia.Battle Mage wrote:rofl! This from Pooky- the guy who wasted about a WEEK with some crazy idiotic gambit which frankly, we were lucky didnt result in power roles being outted.
The vanishing Houdini of Thespival saying I'm stalling?
oh dear. lol
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The illogical Jester of Mafiascum saying Pooky's crazy and idiotic?
oh dear. lol
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unvote
vote PJ
lets roll
farside probly isnt scumShow"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
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quit talking crap MoS. I didnt 'waste a vote'. If youd been paying attention, youd know that when you make a vote in a mafia game, you can retract it-it is very rarely permanent and irreversible.Mastermind of Sin wrote:
rofl! This from Battle Mage- the guy who wasted a vote with some crazy idiotic attack on hasgfas, claiming that a post restricted vig (not that he claimed vig, mind you) would be impossible in a setup themed after a MeatWorld Meet where we played Mostlly Mute Mafia.Battle Mage wrote:rofl! This from Pooky- the guy who wasted about a WEEK with some crazy idiotic gambit which frankly, we were lucky didnt result in power roles being outted.
The vanishing Houdini of Thespival saying I'm stalling?
oh dear. lol
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The illogical Jester of Mafiascum saying Pooky's crazy and idiotic?
oh dear. lol
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And yes, a Vig with a PR doesnt make alot of sense. You actually dont have a clue what you are talking about. -.-
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
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Nightkilled - 10
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winrate as scum: 78%
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Hm, PJ seems good at propaganda skill, lol. He might be scum, I'm not that sure. But I'm pretty sure with todays catch, farside's claim as quack in the middle of this day feels too sudden, plus her Changing Story of who were targeted/protected by her, not seems pro-town.
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Official D3 Vote Count
Note:Cult of the Couch Members:1 (Mr_Gnome_It_All)
farside22 - 5(Holy, Mathcam, Mastermind of Sin, hasdgfas, curiouskarmadog)
Holy - 1(farside22)
PookyTheMagicalBear - 1(Iammars)
Mathcam - 1(AmeliaSlay)
Beep! Beep! - 2(petroleumjelly, RossWilliam)
petroleumjelly - 2(Beep! Beep!, PookyTheMagicalBear)
Not Voting - 2(Cult of the Couch (1), Battle Mage)
With 14 alive, it's 8 to lynch.
Deadline in ~5 days. Prodding all players who haven't posted in the last 72 hours, replacing non-responders.Last edited by Thesp on Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:26 am, edited 1 time in total."When playing a game, the goal is to win, but it is the goal that is important, not the winning." -Reiner Knizia
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I promised you
where is your promise PJ?
also i thought about farside some more
she's probly not scum
cmon guys
lynch lynch PJ
he no promiseyShow"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
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Pooks, are you claiming tonotremember our conversations about how I amnotgoing to make promises about my alignment in games any longer? Because that's the impression I'm getting from you.
Additionally, I never told you "promise". I told you to "look me in the eyes". As it stands, you did not have the word "promise" in your post.
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Well, I've skimmed the past day or two of the thread. Still kinda lost, but that's nothing new for me.
My first impression is that farside is either scum or jester (for reasons many have already stated), but I'm in the camp that if lynching the jester doesn't end the game, it's hardly a direct loss to the town. With that I'llVote: Farside22.
On another note I'll say that mt next suspicion for scum is Beep! Beep!, but for some reason I can't quite put my finger on why. Just a wierd hunch, I guess.Who the hell is "General Failure", and why is he reading my hard drive?-
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Seriously. How can you possibly read anything into this? And this is without my bias towards MeMe (now mathcam).Battle Mage, paraphrased wrote:<Whole bunch of stuf about MeMe being scum because of the situation wen she asked for replacement>
HD's? What are those? But otherwise, I agree with all the reasons that Pooky is scum, except that I think that he was mafia trying to out power roles.mathcam wrote:Second, there's the 5 (now 6?) HD's
Thus the reason why I hate Jesters. Focusing on one type of scum will distract us from the other. However, the game is won/lost by who the moderator says wins/loses, so if the Jester wins, we still get second place. You may think of it as a victory, but the mod certainly won't and that's what counts.petroleumjelly wrote:I need to emphasize something, because nobody seems to be getting it. I think the best move for the town is to lynch as if there is not a jester.
Same as BM above. Seriously guys, you're using arguements that apply to newbies on MeMe. That's insulting.Beep! Beep! wrote:MeMe: Scum that ran away.
Attempting discursive coercionBeep! Beep! wrote:You keep saying I'm the Jester, when YOU are the Jester.
By strenuous overexertion,
Repeating your plea
'Til I nod and agree,
Well, frankly, that's proof by assertion.
(limerickdb.com)
There was a mini run a long time ago that had this same mechanic. I'm thinking Aelyn ran it, but I'm not sure.petroleumjelly wrote:The only thing off the top of my head is Verbose 2
That's the whole point of the quack doctor! She's not supposed to know!Beep! Beep! wrote:However, you are a Quack Doctor, unlike the dead McCoy, who was the real McCoy, and the real Doctor. Same card, different roles.
Lol.curiouskarmadog wrote:vote Beep Beep, I dont think you are the Jester now, you are just DGB, if the Mod assigned you the Jester role, he is a sick SOB.
He can speak more than two words, you know...farside22 wrote:Don't expect people to believe you after my lynch. Good luck defending yourself with just two words.
Basic feelings on some players:
farside22: I could get behind a farside22 lynch, but I really don't want to. There's a twanging pain in my gut that says we shouldn't lynch her, mainly due to the doctor claim.
Pooky: My vote here stays. I still think that he's scum to the bone. The gambit was what solidified it for me. The gambit would be something I would expect out of Blackberry or a player similar to him, not from Pooky. That's just stupid.
pj: Most of everything he's said seems fine to me. He seems protown.
Beep! Beep!: I don't know. These posts are on the edge. They keep flipping from pro-town to anti-town. I'm not sure whether or not I want to lynch her."Rolefishing is fishing for someones role. It's called fishing because it requires subtlety. When you grab a shotgun and start firing into the water, thats not fishing." - IH-
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Then why can't you stand looking in my eyes.
*cries into a pillow*Show"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
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That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
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Battle Mage wrote:quit talking crap MoS. I didnt 'waste a vote'. If youd been paying attention, youd know that when you make a vote in a mafia game, you can retract it-it is very rarely permanent and irreversible.
And yes, a Vig with a PR doesnt make alot of sense. You actually dont have a clue what you are talking about. -.-
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Since it's likely that hasdagas is town, and there is some controversy as to whether Pooky is cleared or not, I have prepared two more sets of scum scores:
hasdagas as town, Pooky as unknown alignment:
130 PookyTheMagicalBear
100 petroleumjelly
97 RossWilliam
86 MeMe
80 Captain Bandwagon/farside
79 curiouskarmadog
73 BattleMage
45 Holy
40 Amelia
39 Mastermind of Sin
34 Iammars
hasdagas as town, Pooky as town:
149 RossWilliam
119 petroleumjelly
99 Captain Bandwagon/farside
91 MeMe
90 BattleMage
66 CKD
53 Holy
49 Mastermind of Sin
34 Amelia
30 curiouskarmadog
30 Iammars
If anything it will be fun to see at endgame how accurate it was.Beep! Beep!-
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Farside is at -1. As a PJ wagon doesnt look like its going to get anything useful done at this stage, i'm pretty much ready to hammer unless anyone has anything else pressing to say.
BMShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
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< is pretty tired of PJ's general arrogance, but had the decency not to mention that until now.petroleumjelly wrote:<is gettingreallytired of these Beep! Beep!-Battle Mage-Pooky interactions>
Battle Mage, Pooky is now defending Farside22. What do you think of that?
And yes, i had noticed Pooky's change of tack. It doesnt make me more confident of Farside-scum, but because its Pooky, its not as if hes going to communicate in a way i can understand, so we are left with no clue of WHY he doesnt want a Farside lynch. Even so, i think this is the best move for the town atm.
Vote: Farside22
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Survived to the end and won - 11
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winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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