LoL eSports Discussion

[zoraster]

Ah you're right. Got them swapped

[zoraster]

Immortals into Worlds as well!

[PJ.]

woo!!!

[Maestro]

Just watched it

[zoraster]

Gauntlet: So it looks like first match will be Flyquest vs. the loser of the 3rd place match, second match will be against the winner of the 3rd place match, and third match will be against C9.

[SensFan]

As I expected, both NA matches will have virtually nothing on the line next week. TSM and IMT are playing for pride alone, while CLG and DIG are playing a meaningless series about one week before they probably play a match with extreme Worlds implications.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

As I expected, both NA matches will have virtually nothing on the line next week. TSM and IMT are playing for pride alone, while CLG and DIG are playing a meaningless series about one week before they probably play a match with extreme Worlds implications.

I mean, TSM vs. IMT decides 1 vs. 2 right?

[Cabd]

Because of the changes to world seeds being based on MSI, na has no tier one seed. We have two tier two seeds instead. So while it gives them the banner at the NALCS studio it does not really affect world's placement. They'll both be in the tier two pool.

[zoraster]

As I expected, both NA matches will have virtually nothing on the line next week. TSM and IMT are playing for pride alone, while CLG and DIG are playing a meaningless series about one week before they probably play a match with extreme Worlds implications.

It means more than the eu one. But then again it just means having to play fly quest if you lose.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

As I expected, both NA matches will have virtually nothing on the line next week. TSM and IMT are playing for pride alone, while CLG and DIG are playing a meaningless series about one week before they probably play a match with extreme Worlds implications.

It means more than the eu one. But then again it just means having to play fly quest if you lose.

Does EU have a number 1 seed at Worlds? Because again, same thing. I know even if Misfits comes second, they score 120 which means they tiebreak win over Fnatic who even if they come third would only hit 120 so....

[zoraster]

Yeah sorry I meant the third place match

[SensFan]

As I expected, both NA matches will have virtually nothing on the line next week. TSM and IMT are playing for pride alone, while CLG and DIG are playing a meaningless series about one week before they probably play a match with extreme Worlds implications.

It means more than the eu one. But then again it just means having to play fly quest if you lose.

I wonder if the teams are scared enough of Flyquest to feel like they need to show anything in the 3rd-place match, or if we just see bog standard comps.

The Finals should hopefully have some spice if only because they're unlikely to play any future meaningful matches on a patch similar enough to the playoff patch, assuming Riot does their normal shake-up for Worlds.

[zoraster]

the problem kind of is that they may not be that scared of flyquest, but if they do have to play flyquest they'll probably need to show SOMETHING since it's do or die. So you kind of might as well go for the win and avoid having to play the third match in the gauntlet. Plus it'd be one thing if the gauntlet were just one match against that team, but you'll DEFINITELY have to show your cards against Dig (if you're CLG) or CLG (if you're Dig), which is going to tip off C9 anyway. And despite being sort of listless, I expect C9 to be a major challenge for either of those two teams.

Is the gauntlet played on 7.16 too? Not that a lot changed for 7.17.

[Cabd]

Is the gauntlet played on 7.16 too? Not that a lot changed for 7.17.

I fully expect things like the crazy Lulu jungle comp (That won in Korea BTW) to be viable because Ardent Censor is just THAT powerful right now.

(I also highly recommend watching that match because it was AWESOME)

[pickemgenius]

idk if anybody but spirit spammed lulu jungle games though?

if there is then yeah sure it could be a thing but idk.

[SensFan]

I do find it funny that the whole world is like "Woah that was super sweet" and Afreeca are probably really pissed they had to burn Lulu Jungle on a series they were up 2-0, with SSG and KT looming.

[zoraster]

that's true. And they didn't even seem to fool the other team. They had Alistar banned from them. I guess it's possible they thought it was Top or Mid Lulu, but still.

[Glork]

TSM and IMT are still playing for prize money.

EDIT: As are all 3rd/4th place teams, I think.

[Cabd]

Pretty sure they expected it to be top lulu.

[zoraster]

TSM and IMT are still playing for prize money.

EDIT: As are all 3rd/4th place teams, I think.

Yeah they are but while it's not nothing, I doubt anyone cares very much about it compared to whatever their chances for worlds. TSM/Immortals and G2/MSF will very much want to win because winning a split is awesome (plus G2/MSF is for the pool 1 seed), but 3rd and 4th are likely thinking largely about their gauntlet run.

The difference is literally $10k between 3rd and 4th. So even if the players get to keep it all (and I'm not sure they do), that's 2k a person. It's not nothing, but it's also pretty unimportant compared to the chance of going to worlds. Even if all you cared about was money, the bottom 4 teams at worlds last year collected $63,375 a team. This year there are more teams and winning the gaunlet means you're in the play-ins but I still imagine the money for getting 4th and winning the gauntlet will far outstrip getting 3rd and losing the gauntlet.

EDIT: 1st vs. 2nd is a bigger prize difference at 50k so ~10k a person. I think the 1st place match will be competitive and people will care because (a) pride (b) money (c) there's no reason NOT to do so. Yeah, you give a bit away for worlds, but that's so far away (on a different patch, after a lot of cross regional pollination, etc.) that it's not worth worrying about.

[SensFan]

Of humourous note regarding the EU 1-seed is that while the 1-seed is still almost certainly better than the 2-seed, SKT is once again poised to ruin the day of a 1-seed from EU/CN/LMS.

[SleepyKrew]

s a m s u n g

[SleepyKrew]

The LPL finals were really fun to watch but both teams played super messily. Expecting Korean domination as usual.

[Voidedmafia]

The Fnatic v. H2K match was as close as I expected it to be, albeit perhaps not as definitive as I had hoped. Fnatic still won, though, so I'm happy.

I didn't expect CLG to crush Dig that hard, especially given their messy/poor performances against Envy and Immortals. I know the casters mentioned that it tells C9 that their bid won't be as easy if CLG does make it to the 3rd round, as well as giving Dig a wake-up call, and I agree.

[dramonic]

This guest is giving the most generic, "i have no idea what's going on" answers lol