Mini #556 - The Most Excellent People Ever - Called.

[PJ.]

Alright guys..Llyod should be lynched instead of Jester.

[WhoMe?]

Alright guys..Llyod should be lynched instead of Jester.

because you say so? No dice, if you want us to vote someone give us reasoning as to why.

[The Jester]

What reference is needed? Don't need to quote anything, pressure is pressure.

Okay? What exactly are "you" doing that's "helpful"? Okay than.

[quote=Most people's thoughts]I'm at L-1, I think I should claim now.[/quote] = Pressure? I think so, or some form of it, varies per person.

I don't think I care what you believe at this point, it hasn't exactly done anything helpful yet. Honestly, the whole "scum" name-calling is way worse than anything you claimed I've done.

When you say something that is actually well relevant, I'll pay more attention to it.

Vote: Lloyd

As already said, answering for someone else is very scummy.

[Korlash]

Dude stop using the word you. It's hard to know who the hell your talking to. unless all that was directed at Who that is.

Also who the hell thinks claiming on page 2 is what "most people think"? Seriously.

[UltimaAvalon]

There are s many people I want to kill....

[Korlash]

interesting choice of words. 2:3 chance your scum now UA. Makes you the second best lynch!

[PJ.]

Do I really have to make a case?

[Cavebear with a toothache]

There are s many people I want to kill....

Oh really? Could you tell us who?

interesting choice of words. 2:3 chance your scum now UA. Makes you the second best lynch!

How'd you arrive at that number? I'd say at least 1/2 chance he just wants to kill someone and don't have any power to do so (assuming this isn't a setup with a huge amount of scum, vigs, SK:s and what-not, but these are excellent people here, going around with lots of weapons is surely not excellent? Hmm, come to think of it I can think of a lot of excellent super heroes, but those usually don't actually kill people, they just smack people around and leave 'em for the cops. Also assuming basic probability theory and stuff; people are generally less likely to be scum than town. Oh, and thirdly, he's been dropping weird comments all game, not to mention the site.)

Do I really have to make a case?

Yes please, that way it's much easier to find gaps in your logic in case anyone would feel so inclined.

I just noticed, Thanatos has a grand total of three (short) posts in this thread, the last of which was five days ago. Lurking much?

[Korlash]

@ Cave: It was a joke dude. Trying to be funny by saying he was either vig, sk, or mafia. Trust me I'm the last guy to think the word kill is in any way a reason to lynch.

Than has been... gone from a couple of games Im in for a while so it's not like it's jsut this game.

[UltimaAvalon]

There are s many people I want to kill....

Oh really? Could you tell us who?

Everyone, really

[Cavebear with a toothache]

Korlash: Fair enough, I'll try to lighten up a little (or make it more obvious).

UA: That's not very excellent. Some might interpret that as a SK claim.

[UltimaAvalon]

UA: That's not very excellent. Some might interpret that as a SK claim.

read:

idiots

dense people

everyone

[PJ.]

I'm still down with a Lloyd lynch.

[Korlash]

I'm still down with a jester lynch...

Seems we are at a stand still... Any of you not so talky people wana give input on the three or so top vote getters?

[Lloyd]

I went through the posts so far, and counted using the following:

Vote Tally Table
Player listed on left voted for player listed on top in post #

[col] [col]lovo14 [col]Lloyd [col]tyhess [col]Korlash [col]The Jester [col]WhoMe? [col]Cavebear with a toothache [col]Panzerjager [col]Urzassedative [col]Thanatos [col]RangeroftheNorth [col]UltimaAvalon lovo14 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] Lloyd [col]6 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]222 [col] tyhess [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]48 [col] Korlash [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]11 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] The Jester [col] [col]252 [col] [col]37, 108 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] WhoMe? [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]115 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]10 [col]34 Cavebear with a toothache [col] [col] [col] [col]12 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]55 [col] [col] Panzerjager [col] [col]244 [col] [col]13,179 [col]125 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]52,129 [col] Urzassedatives [col] [col] [col] [col]35 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]18 [col] [col]14 Thanatos [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]207 [col] [col] [col] [col]17 [col] [col] [col] RangeroftheNorth [col]8 [col] [col] [col]39 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]9 UltimaAvalon [col] [col]229 [col] [col]32,193 [col]91,176 [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col] [col]7
Based on the above info, the extremes are:
- Panzerjager voted 6 times today for 4 different players
- UltimaAvalon voted 6 times today for 4 different players (1 was a self-vote)
- lovo14 voted 0 times today (lovo14 tried to vote in post 84, but he typo'd so it didn't count)

Then, I counted their uses of FOSes:
- Panzerjager used 8 FOSes today (4 FOSes in post 52, 2 FOSes in post 96, 1 FOS in post 202, 1 FOS in post 225)
- lovo14 used 1 FOS today (1 FOS in post 141)
- UltimaAvalon used 0 FOSes today

Panzerjager has been at the extreme in casting votes and using FOSes. Casting suspicions on so many players seems scummy.

Unvote

Vote: Panerjager

[Lloyd]

EBWOP: Looks like I typo'd Panzerjager's name in my vote.

Unvote

Vote: Panzerjager

[PJ.]

Alright, since when is vote hoping non-contextual evidence. I voted all of those people for good reasons. You can not tell me that none of the people are voted for were acting scummy when I voted for them. Also the reason vote hopping is bad is when they are bandwagoning. I have not been bandwagoning at all. That is what makes hoping scummy, not just voting..Shit i can switch my vote every damn post and that doesn't reflect my alignment if I'm doing it for good reasons...or just to be annoying. Annoying people are town all the time(BM).

You on the other hand. PBPA time.

1: Random vote on Lovo.
2: Disagreeing with Lovo.
3. Asking if his UA's elipses were code after he said they were elipses
4. Saying you missed is explanation after you were scolded
5. Repeats what everyone else has been saying abot Urza and RotN vote on RotN, no FoS on Urza
6. "Hey guys I'm bandwagoning RotN and you all should ignore thanatos claim"
7. Gives Urza's replacement an excuse for not being able to speak on the subject pretty much negating most of day 1's discussion. Seems like some scum would do to protect his buddy.
8-9. Nothing
10. Attacks Lovo for saying longer day 1's are good, Agreeing with Urza.
11. Defeats by breadcrumb reasoning aka strawman's my arguement.
12. Scolds jester for his No lynch but it's just a slap on the wrist, smells like distancing
13. Defends Urza again from Cavebear's thought of stronger personalities directing lynchs. Llyod pretty much says that strong personalties are gonna dictate games regardless.
14. typos making his post almost unreadable. pretty much saying that stown can slip just as easily as scum.
15. Big table and votes me for hoping (already addressed this
16. typos are awesome.

It seems like he has been buddying up to Urza and distancing to Jester and Lovo. He also lurked all throughout the Urza and Korlash situation and only making comments on it once the situation completely diffuses. Seems to want to avoid attention and is really protective of Urza. Also tried to half as distance from Urza in order to later say he doesn't buddy up to him. I honestly think Llyod is scum and is today's best lynch. All this is in addition to a strong gut feeling.

[Lloyd]

Lets look at your votes contextually...

- 2nd vote on Korlash's wagon (post 13, seems like you voted for Korlash sarcastically, since you're actually the first person who brings up voting for a Jester role in this game, and you reinforce your poor reason for wanting a Korlash bandwagon post 19, then again in post 23)

- 2nd vote (twice) on RangeroftheNorth's wagon (posts 52 and 129, both times because you gave the reason of: RangeroftheNorth putting Korlash at L-1)

- 3rd vote on The Jester's wagon (post 125, for The Jester's metagaming reasons)

- 2nd vote on my wagon (post 244)

You've been vote-hopping often, and tries to convince others to join you to form wagons. When others don't join, you seem to incite another wagon. Here's a good example:

In post 125, you vote for The Jester to make it 3 votes for him, stating how you haven't liked his play at all.

Then shortly later in post 129, you go back to voting for RangeroftheNorth, using the same reason you voted for him in post 52, and sarcastically calling it an epiphany in your second try.

Since Urzassedatives agreed "almost 100%" with RangeroftheNorth in post 128, it's an odd choice that you chose RangeroftheNorth over Urzassedatives.

More importantly, you abandoned your argument against The Jester fairly quickly, and switched back to RangeroftheNorth for sarcastic reasons, even though TheJester hadn't done anything in between posts 125 and 129 to lessen your suspicion of him.

Your quick vote hop there seems scummy.

[UltimaAvalon]

Mod: I demand a Vote Count

[Korlash]

I demand more mod activity... >.>

none the less, I do feel most, if not all, of panzer's votes have had some actual basis behind them. Ranger, me(2nd time), jester... all had good vote reasons. His vote on you I didn;t think had a good reason but he has explained it in the past few posts. I like it but it gives me a sick paranoid feeling that you two are scum together that have just up and started bussing each other.

[Rosso Carne]

THE OFFICIAL "PITT IS IT!!!" VOTECOUNT!

LET'S GO PITT!

{2}

The Jester

(Korlash, WhoMe?)

{2}

Korlash

(Guardian, RangeroftheNorth)

{1}

Guardian

(Thanatos)

{1}

RangeroftheNorth

(tyhess)

{3}

Lloyd

(UltimaAvalon, Panzerjager, The Jester)

{1}

Panzerjager

(Lloyd)



Not Voting(lovo14, Cavebear with a toothache,)

With 12 alive, it's 7 to lynch

Guardian replaces Urzassedatives {once he gets his role}. Also, I'm going to prod lovo. sorry again for being useless. I love you all (except Lloyd lol)

Also, remember that I require unvotes.

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[PJ.]

The hop between Jester and RotN was due to Urza's reasoning, I felt that I should have just stayed put and FoSed Jester. As Korlash said..I've actually presented reasons for the votes..ones that are actually viable not just ones based on rules that have spread wildly through the site because a few good players said it a few times.

[Guardian]

Hi. I'm here.

unvote

until I read. Expect that in the next week, probably next 48 hours but no guarantees.

[lovo14]

dont prod me im here....just still deciding if i want to lynch llyod or panzer

[PJ.]

That seems like a false dilemma. You don't have to lynch either of us.

FoS

Lovo. A lot of people in this game are scummy but you all can't be scum...