Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

[mneme]

Eh. You don't have to reread that much to get a handle on the basics -- or on the first post...

First night, Shanba fakedeathed TSS, submitting something like "Mafia Scumbag, Mafia, vanishes into the void" None of that is real, he made it up. There was also a mafia kill that night -- Twomz. Clearly, the mafia wasn't giving up its kill for Shanba's power, since there was an antitown kill then.

Night 2, Shanba targetted himself, using "Psychotic Player List, Town, killed" (role, align, mode of death). But it was copied, so Nocmen got it too. There was also a kill that night, by JDodge -- this was likely either the mafia kill, but in the unlikely event that JDodge is telling the truth, it would have been a vig kill.

[curiouskarmadog]

how was it copied again (sorry for being daft).

and the question about is TSS and Shanba counted toward town totals for terms of lynching and balancing were not answered..

also, shanba is your role like a jailkeeper, meaning if you would have targetted Twomz that night, could you have protected him for a mafia kill?

[jediknight]

Thank you for the breakdown mneme. Okay so I got forgot about TSS being targetted night one. This thread has gone on so long that I've probably forgotten more than i ever could remember. And is turning out to be much more than I was prepared to take when I signed on. Forget all that crap I spouted earlier about Shamba.

In case I've missed it (which is very possible as I'm irritated and lazy) Sir Tornado...why did you choose to copy shamba and target Nocmen? What was your reasoning if I may ask? Random targetting Night 2 isn't usually the norm is it?

[mneme]

Long? It's day 3... I'm running a normal with 80 pages (admittedly, it's day 7).

CKD: Sir Tornado's ability is to copy night actions. He's claimed copying it. Shanba's role just spits out a fake death -- we KNOW it doesn't save people from kills, because it didn't save Nocmen, who was the dupe target last night and also the kill target of Jdodge (or Jdodge/mafia).

Jedi: Ok, forgotten. Well, ok, not actually forgotten, but you know what I mean. I'm not going to speak for Shamba, but I'd guess that copying the fakedeath was an easy way for him to both confirm shamba's role and his own, while not risking an accidental kill. And yes, random targetting night 2 is very much the norm on pretty much everything but protown kill abilities (and there's a "standard" random target for redirectors and copy abilities anyway, even though/especially because those can kill).

[Mastermind of Sin]

Third Vote Count of Day 3:

JDodge - (mneme, KaleiÐoscøpe, Twomz, the silent speaker, jdodge)

Belgarion - (Shanba, Oman)
Thyroidectomy - (UltimaAvalon)
KaleiÐoscøpe - (ZONEACE)
ZONEACE - (Thyroidectomy)

17 alive, 10 to lynch

The following players have been prodded:

UltimaAvalon
ZONEACE
KaleiÐoscøpe
somestrangeflea
stark
Belgarion
Flameaxe
JDodge
Thyroidectomy
Oman

[UltimaAvalon]

Why is my name first on the list?

I'm a member of the Don't Lynch JDodge Club, by the way. I'd rather lynch liars than potential Vigs

[ZONEACE]

I'd rather lynch liars than potential Vigs

I have to agree with this, quite effusively.

[Kison]

Lemme try that again,

Vote : Jdodge

[Belgarion]

still here, not much to say at this point, I would like to see Jdodge's other action, in action, so he will probably not get my vote today. Also did Oman or Shanba ever comment on my role claim?

I am confused about Thyro's claim about making Shanba king. How many abilities do you have?

B-

[JDodge]

Mod:

I'm not voting myself.

OH, THE HORROR! of filler posts

[Oman]

Vote Kscope

I see very little validity in Jdodge wagon. My vote is for schisms behaviour towards KScope.

[stark]

I'm here, man, no need to be prodded. I'm with UA and Zoneace. And although, correct me if I understand this wrong, Jdodge's vig powers are used up, his other power could be really useful, even if it doesn't confirm anything.

[Sir Tornado]

In case I've missed it (which is very possible as I'm irritated and lazy) Sir Tornado...why did you choose to copy shamba and target Nocmen? What was your reasoning if I may ask? Random targetting Night 2 isn't usually the norm is it?

OH, THE HORROR!

I was not sure about Shanba's ability because the person he claimed to have fake killed still appeared on the "dead" list. I copied him to confirm whether he really had that ability.

The target, Nocmen was random.

[KaleiÐoscøpe]

Nice flip-flop Oman.

My vote will stay of JDodge

[Twomz]

So y'all are going to completely ignore the fact that JDodge has a one shot vig ability (very convenient for the circumstances) and used it on the night where the mafia's kill just happened to hit someone who was unnightkillable (there was no doc last night unless there is another doc or a nurse in the game).

Having that one-shot is way too convenient to be true, and the likelihood of the mafia kill being stopped last night is also very low. Both low possibilities together? Practically impossible.

Why aren't there more JDodge votes?

[ZONEACE]

I'd rather lynch liars than potential Vigs

thats why twomz.

[mneme]

I don't think that's it. -any- killer that isn't proven scum is a "potential vig" and JDodge being a full vig would predicate him having lied.

I think the reason for the lack of traction for the JDodge bandwagon is because he's claimed an interesting, provable ability.

The thing is, First, I expect scum in this game to have interesting abilities -- after all, this is Designer! Second, with JDodge's interesting, provable ability having more or less no ability to help the town, and a possible ability to hurt us (day actions = immediate actions = bypass doc and copy abilities unless those using the abilities win the race!). So while I can understand while some people are going easy on JDdoge, I certainly don't agree.

[somestrangeflea]

Keeping up with this game is not easy.

Therefore, a request:
Summarise the game in a fairly short post.

Once someone's done (preferably, someone else who got prodded), we can all pick holes in it and bitch about whether or not it's actually true. Then we can bitch and pick holes in that. And so on and so forth...

[Shanba]

how was it copied again (sorry for being daft).

also, shanba is your role like a jailkeeper, meaning if you would have targetted Twomz that night, could you have protected him for a mafia kill?

No. It simply is a fake kill.

still here, not much to say at this point, I would like to see Jdodge's other action, in action, so he will probably not get my vote today. Also did Oman or Shanba ever comment on my role claim?

Yeah, I did.

Actually,

Unvote Vote: ZONEACE

[mneme]

Therefore, a request:
Summarise the game in a fairly short post.

No. Do your own homework.

Or, you know, vote last night's only killer...

[the silent speaker]

Once again I find that I can't post because mneme has beaten me to anything useful to say.

JDodge is not a potential vig, because any viggery he mae have had is gone. He's a potential one-shot day-night flipper, and I don't really see how impossible it is for him to be a

scum

one-shot day-night flipper.

[ZONEACE]

Actually,

Unvote Vote: ZONEACE

pour que?

[Flameaxe]

I got prodded, could have sworn I died...I'll stop failing soon.

[UltimaAvalon]

JDodge is not a potential vig, because any viggery he mae have had is gone. He's a potential one-shot day-night flipper, and I don't really see how impossible it is for him to be a

scum

one-shot day-night flipper.

You read it wrong. It doesn't say he has the potential to kill people. It says that, when given a choice, it is better to lynch the person who is lying, than the person who may have, at some point, had a power that might be described as Vig-like.

[Twomz]

When did Thyroid die? He never got enough tickets to do whatever it was he wanted to do. Besides, either the Sk or the mafia targetted him night one, so he is either town, or I stopped the SK from killing him .