Designer Mafia 2007 - Game Over, Final Scene Posted!

[Sir Tornado]

Sir Tornado, you say you caused Nocmen's fake kill. Since causing fake deaths is Shanba's power, and jediknight handed Nocmen the mysterious yellow shirt, in what way were you responsible?

OH, THE HORROR!

I copied whatever action Shanba performed onto Nocmen.

[mneme]

Since it's as out in the open as it can be... so, that's "target player A, player B::copy whatever player A's (targetted?) ability did onto player B?"

A nicely designed power, if so.

[Twomz]

Very nice.

It wasn't a Yellow shirt, I believe it was teal? I got the yellow shirt. Too bad you didn't copy Jediknight night 1.

[Sir Tornado]

Since it's as out in the open as it can be... so, that's "target player A, player B::copy whatever player A's (targetted?) ability did onto player B?"

A nicely designed power, if so.

OH, THE HORROR!

Correct.

It works only if the person I am copying himself performs the action that night.

[curiouskarmadog]

so basically you are confirming what we already know?

[Sir Tornado]

OH, THE HORROR!

I distinctly remember you saying you were confused CKD.

[curiouskarmadog]

not about that. Jdodge has already said he vigged Noc, which confirms kscopes post.

but I guess you are right, it explains what you are doing...which I wasnt sure about, but it doesnt give us any new information as a collective.

[Sir Tornado]

OH, THE HORROR!

Can we have a few prods?

[Shanba]

not about that. Jdodge has already said he vigged Noc, which confirms kscopes post.

but I guess you are right, it explains what you are doing...which I wasnt sure about, but it doesnt give us any new information as a collective.

What are you confused about?

[jediknight]

I'm still here...just don't have alot to say. And I'm not the type that just rambles on with no point.

Okay...so jdodge and sir tornado have both been struck with the same post restriction? And jdodge vigged nocmen? And sir tornado copied shanba who causes fake deaths? Is that about where we're at?

I was thinking about whether, if true, shanba's role could be used similar to a doc role. But then I realized that nocmen died real and fake. If that's the case.

If sir tornado copied shanba then shouldn't there be two fake nocmens dead? I find that very curious.

All in all I'm just confused by it all.

[Sir Tornado]

I'm still here...just don't have alot to say. And I'm not the type that just rambles on with no point.

Okay...so jdodge and sir tornado have both been struck with the same post restriction? And jdodge vigged nocmen? And sir tornado copied shanba who causes fake deaths? Is that about where we're at?

I was thinking about whether, if true, shanba's role could be used similar to a doc role. But then I realized that nocmen died real and fake. If that's the case.

If sir tornado copied shanba then shouldn't there be two fake nocmens dead? I find that very curious.

All in all I'm just confused by it all.

OH, THE HORROR!

Shanba fake killed himself. I copied his power on Nocmen.

Hence we have 2 fake kills, Shanba and Nocmen, and 1 real kill, Nocmen's.

So, if JDodge is a vig and killed Nocmen... What happened to the mafia kill?

[curiouskarmadog]

going to be a light poster this weekend..the man holding me down...

will post all things confusing when I have time.

[Twomz]

That's why I'm saying the whole "one shot vig, but mafia got blocked" thing is ridiculous.

HEY SIR T. YOU HAVE YOUR ABILITY EVERYNIGHT YES? IF SO I PROPOSE A PARTNERSHIP OF SORTS

[Sir Tornado]

That's why I'm saying the whole "one shot vig, but mafia got blocked" thing is ridiculous.

HEY SIR T. YOU HAVE YOUR ABILITY EVERYNIGHT YES? IF SO I PROPOSE A PARTNERSHIP OF SORTS

OH, THE HORROR!

I approve. I was going to do that from my side anyway.

[Twomz]

So, I'll target you and you'll copy me to me? So that's two unNKable players for the endgame, woot.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'll be doing administrative stuff tomorrow night, probably. I'm busy today.

[Kison]

Might I ask what the benefit of the fake death was, or are we being kept in the dark about that?

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So, if JDodge is a vig and killed Nocmen... What happened to the mafia kill?

It is possible that the kill was blocked by some other means, but I will agree that it is unlikely.

Hey Mafia scum, mind tellin us who you targeted so we can figure it out?
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Fine!

Vote : JDodge

<3 JD.

[mneme]

I could see the fake death with a bunch of uses, if it had been used a bit more carefully.

The way it was actually (tried to be) used was just to get a bit if extra info.

In theory, Shamba could have used it to "hide" from the scum if he kept the mask up for a few days, possibly hiding some other players with him (but that could backfire if one of them is scum). More realistic death notes could help there too.

As it was, it's mostly a flavor ability, though.

[Twomz]

Used it to kill himself night 1 then wait for the endgame >.< that would take so much patience... omfg.

[mneme]

Twomz: yeah, but wouldn't it be cool? Given people being confirmed as town, he could have "killed" them as well (works much better if the target knows they're still alive, but I'd guess they have to, or certain things can break); if the scum didn't target them as well, they'd also be effectively masked until it was time for a big pro-town mob to take over.

Of course, the vote counts would show something was odd (and eventually some people would have to go visible or people couldn't be lynched), but it would still be pretty effective.

[the silent speaker]

I don't know quite how well that would work -- for one thing, for aught we know anyone who isn't Shanba turns up "mafia scumbag, mafia" -- but imagining the look on the scums' faces is bringing a smile to mine.

[jediknight]

Just to throw this out there. Be aware this is the equivalent of mental masturbation on my part. Fun to do but not as fulfilling as the real thing. LOL Sorry...my mind is in the gutter.

We don't have a confirmed scum type death for the night. Is it possible that Shamba could be scum? Hear me out.

(conjecture on) Would it be too off the wall for a scum group to be able to forgo a kill in order to make a godfather type person or one of their members to "look" dead for a night? I've never heard of anything like it but is it possible? (conjecture off)

[mneme]

TSS: Shamba writes the deathline, according to his claim.

Jedi: you're either not reading the thread, or you're scum with Jdodge. Also, your supposition makes no sense at all -- Shamba has used his power twice, and the first time was clearly a mafia kill.

Obviously, Shamba isn't confirmed, particularly given the fairly frivilous use of his powers. But there's no reason to think he's scum, either.

[jediknight]

Reading and rereading 54 pages isn't high on my list of priorities truthfully...

OH THE HORRORS!

As far as I can tell shamba targeted himself with a fake death on the first night. How did that result in "clearly a mafia kill" as you say? Who did he target the second night? From what I read (yes...I read) Sir Tornado is the one claiming a fake kill on Nocmen...not Shamba. And what the blue hell does "writes the deathline" mean? For that matter why would Sir Tornado choose to target Nocmen with the fake kill in the first place?

I was just throwing something out to talk about. Since I'm clearly out of my league here or obviously scum then I'll shut up. Wake me up when something noteworthy happens.

[curiouskarmadog]

Shanba, the people you "set up" as being dead...do they count toward the total amount of people in the town, or are they considered "dead" and do not? Currently it looks like we have 16 players..but that doesnt count you or Silent Speaker...do we really have 18 in regards to votes needed for a lynch?

Still confused what "Pscyhotic Player List" means...

I think I am still confused about what the crap SirT is doing, but I know he has explained it somewhat, so i need to reread that to figure it out and see if I can form my confusion into a question.

Mod can we get a vote count?