Mini 557 - Contagion - The End!

[Rosso Carne]

unvote, vote rosso carne

[Simenon]

SSF, why are you voting UltimaAvalon?

[Skruffs]

There is about a week to figure out the first person to infect! After that, there's no saying WHAT might happen...

[somestrangeflea]

SSF, why are you voting UltimaAvalon?

Because springlullaby is at -1 and I don't want to hammer yet, and I forgot to

unvote

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[springlullaby]

SSF, at L-1 of becoming infected, and thus of gaining the final say in who to infect next, I believe it is my prerogative as a townie to voice capricious suspicions which needn't obey to more than my fancy.

[DrippingGoofball]

SSF, at L-1 of becoming infected, and thus of gaining the final say in who to infect next, I believe it is my prerogative as a townie to voice capricious suspicions which needn't obey to more than my fancy.

Do you fancy we infect Rosso Carne? I'd love to see yet another mega beef recall. What you say?

[Rosso Carne]

i wanna be king obv.

[somestrangeflea]

SSF, at L-1 of becoming infected, and thus of gaining the final say in who to infect next, I believe it is my prerogative as a townie to voice capricious suspicions which needn't obey to more than my fancy.

So what? If you are infected, you are dead. If you actually voiced reasons for suspecting others, then we'd be able to kill them off instead of you.

[springlullaby]

I think infecting Rosso Carne on day 1 is too much a risk for the town to take because this is an unusual game, so no, I wouldn't vote for him. If it were normal mafia, I would have no qualm to vote for someone who vote for themselves though.

[springlullaby]

SSF, at L-1 of becoming infected, and thus of gaining the final say in who to infect next, I believe it is my prerogative as a townie to voice capricious suspicions which needn't obey to more than my fancy.

So what? If you are infected, you are dead. If you actually voiced reasons for suspecting others, then we'd be able to kill them off instead of you.

This is not an usual game, an infected townie do not only die, they also gain the power of deciding who to get rid of next. It is best to lynch scum of course, but it isn't exactly bad to infect a vanilla townie such as myself as town will get a leverage they did not priorly have, especially given the uncertainty of the moment due to this being day 1. Seeing that I find it strange that you keep harping me on my suspicions and do not see them for what they are.

[somestrangeflea]

but it isn't exactly bad to infect a vanilla townie

It's just as bad in this game as a mislynch in any other game would be, if not worse.

as town will get a leverage they did not priorly have

A conversion from democracy to an autocracy is not "leverage".

[UltimaAvalon]

WILL SOMEONE HURRY UP AND DIE OF AIDS ALREADY?

[DrippingGoofball]

I think infecting Rosso Carne on day 1 is too much a risk for the town to take because this is an unusual game, so no, I wouldn't vote for him.

We have to infect somebody. Somebody will be infected. Inevitable. Plus, we have a deadline to do the infection.

What's so special about Rosso Carne that he's less desirable an infectee than other players? Is he your buddy?

[DrippingGoofball]

WILL SOMEONE HURRY UP AND DIE OF AIDS ALREADY?

AIDS takes forever. We have Ebola.

[springlullaby]

Alright, I'll wait 24 hours more before hammering myself. My prime suspects now are somestrangeflea, Psychocide and The Jester

[DrippingGoofball]

Alright, I'll wait 24 hours more before hammering myself. My prime suspects now are somestrangeflea, Psychocide and The Jester

Pick one. Which one do you think we should infect? Hurry time is running out.

[springlullaby]

DrippingGoofball, I'm puzzled, why do you want me to pick?

Also

Unvote

[Psychocide]

unvote, vote rosso carne

Oh, we have a volunteer! And a pretty scummy one at that, imo. Well I've no objection, what with the deadline and all. That, or if springlullaby commits suicide and turns up town like I think, then it makes sense that most if not all the mafia are/were on her wagon.

[springlullaby]

Psychocide, I just volunteered too. Why to you think Rosso Carne is a better choice than me?

[DrippingGoofball]

DrippingGoofball, I'm puzzled, why do you want me to pick?

Also

Unvote

Your offer to self-hammer was townie-ish, under the circumstances. So why not let you pick?

Which player shall we contaminate for your pleasure?

[dahen]

Ok, rereading:

p1: merely random stuff
p2:

Is it the random vote stage yet?

First post which struck me as odd. Could be a joke, but if not is a strange question to make. As if one is not part of the group.

If we decided it wasn't the random vote stage anymore, would you still vote?

Good question.

Well, it would also depends on what's on offer, but hey, look at you, fishing already?

Also strange reply. Then a discussion follows regarding the semantics of fishing.

The Jester would've been 2.

I don't understand the meaning of this.

OK, if I'm correct about the mechanics and all...when we vote someone suspected of being mafia, were sort of giving them a kill, aren't we? Therefore, I think this game is strongly lienient toward the town, because even if we myslinch, the contagious townie has a second chance. Therefore, I believe day 1 is the most important day in this game.

This speculation warranted my vote for reasons stated above.

Still a lot of nonsense here.
p3:

Can we get back to giving people AIDS?

The discussion needed to turn back to the game at this point, but some suggestion would have been nice.
At this point UA had voted himself and then re-voted himself in another post. No other votes from him.

I did a quick reread, he is the only one who is sticking out.

OMG what have I done? I've basically stated that Day 1 is most important in this game, and ssf agreed with me.

I agree too. You're absolutely right.

That's why I want Rosso Carne to be infected. Give him the rodent.

First, I see no connection between skitzer being right and Rosso being infected. Are you saying we should infect Rosso because he is scummy or because he has a good scumdar? I don't agree with the first, and the second is a horrible strategy.

Unvote, Vote: Skitzer

No reason, bandwagon.

Is a reasonless bandwagon better than your previous Jester vote for sticking out and not rubbing you properly?

p4:

Lol Simenon, you are so scummy.

Is this a joke or a real sense of scumminess?

I thought Simenon scummy

Ok, so it was real. Then I can't see a reason for keeping a vote on skitzer for "no reason".

Unvote
Vote: springlullaby

This vote puts springlullaby at lynch-1 without pointing that out. Dangerous!

I'm going to be blunt. "Rubbing me the wrong way" and "acting scummy" don't cut it. LET'S BE MORE SPECIFIC PLEASE.
And being the Infected Mouse's target is a scumtell because..?

Well, it can be hard to be very specific day one. It's not like springlullby's candidates are near a lynch. She is close to a lynch and should therefore point out her hunches. The mouse question is valid, but also fishing-like. No-one has commented much on the mouse yet. You are the first to start asking questions about it.

p5:

Because springlullaby is at -1 and I don't want to hammer yet

What does "yet" mean in this post?

A conversion from democracy to an autocracy is not "leverage".

This is an important point and very true.

Pick one. Which one do you think we should infect? Hurry time is running out.

Is this to put preassure on springlullaby or is it to get a safe place to put her vote.

unvote, vote rosso carne

Oh, we have a volunteer! And a pretty scummy one at that, imo.

Why is RC scummy? Is he more scummy than springlullaby?

***
Lurker-lis: Players not quoted in this post and who thus need to make more impressions:
*DragonsofSummer
*Rosso Carne
*The Jester

***
Conclusions of none-lurkers (from most to least scummy):

UA

: scummy, could have caused a unaware lynch

springlullaby

: tough one, scummy play but also scummy reactions from others

Psychoside

: need to contribute more and explain his RC vote.

DGB

: seems to have a plan. I don't understand it, which doesn't mean she's not town but could be.

skitzer

: not so scummy in relation to others, but have barely posted. Need to post more.

SSF

: the "yet" is my only puzzle here.

sinemon

: nothing scummy here

I see four possible strategies here:
1. Vote UA for being top of my list.
2. Vote springlullaby since she has been discussed a lot and there is a dead-line
3. Side with DGB and let springlullaby choose the lynch. This has a benefit of seeing where we have springlullaby.
4. Vote a lurker

If we go with 3 and let springlullaby decide and she picks scum, then we know (pretty much) that she is town, and we can start look for scum based on the discussions around her. But if she picks town, then we know nothing, since townies will most likely pick town unless informed and scum definately will. That will only bring us into the same situation tomorrow (but with different mechanics of deciding, of course)

2 could be a choice. I was about to type "but not yet"

vote UA

. I think this is best.

[UltimaAvalon]

OMG guys, everything dahen says is probably right, especially whatever he said about UA. But, it was too long, and I didnt really read it. Just the bottom part. Lets assume he knows what he's talking about and give UA AIDS though, 'k?

unvote
Vote: Ultima Avalon

[springlullaby]

I'm no longer at L-1 but my offer still stands. I'm okay with killing any of my three top suspects.

Something I want to point out.

The 'democracy' to 'autocracy' bit is crap, town needs to see that right now.

a) Whether we like it or not, this game is about autocracy, day one is only a brief respite.

b) Concept such as 'good tyrant' exists, having a good absolute ruler presents advantages and certainly leverage. Not wanting to make the best out of it would be dim.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm okay with killing any of my three top suspects.

Pick ONE. Humor me.

[springlullaby]

Psychocide.