PIRATES v. NINJAS! Game Over!

[Erg0]

Frankly, I'm guessing. If not for the flavour I probably wouldn't have even considered the possibility of being unkillable, as my PM doesn't even hint at something like that.

Basically, my objectives today were to:

1. Imply that I might have a power role so that I would be an attractive scum target

2. Try to push a scenario such as a doctor protect on night 2 to explain to the goblins why their kill failed (since they might already think that I'm unkillable and avoid targeting me again)

3. Make it to night in the hopes of drawing another nightkill attempt and at least saving the town a mislynch

I don't mind being nightkilled if it saves someone more important. I'm basically a lame duck at this point in the game, so all I can do is try to make my death less than a complete waste.

[Gorrad]

Mars, please answer 1284.

Hi CES, welcome to the game. Please also answer 1284.

Re: Erg0- Don't believe the claim. Thesp killing him has my support.

[Erg0]

I don't know what kind of revalation you were expecting from me, but just saying "I don't believe the claim" is kind of a cop-out. Essentially you're just repeating what you've been saying all day: "I think you're scum". The way I see it, you wouldn't have believed any claim that I made.

This goes for the rest of you too. If you'd care to re-read my posts today you should find that they're consistent with what I've described above.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Gorrad, I deny cicero's existence.

The way I see it, you wouldn't have believed any claim that I made.

That is BS and you know it.

[Flameaxe]

Will try catching up tomorrow.

[Gorrad]

That just means you've been planning the claim ahead of time.

What's wrong:
1. Buffy, vanilla? YA RITE!

2. Sounds like Guardian's safeclaims- Easy to adapt into different roles, but WAY not vanilla (except maybe Ron).

3. You claim to be nightkill-imune-ish, but not aware of the fact? Ok, I COULD see that happening, but even then the chances would be slim. With how you've been acting, I doubt it.

[Erg0]

1. There are only so many power roles in a game, and I'm guessing that whatever townies there are don't all have minor, insignificant characters for flavour. The role flavour appears to have been drawn from a number of disparate sources, so it makes some sense that main characters would be used for random townies.

2. See 1.

3. Can you clarify what you mean by "the way [I've] been acting"?

[The Fonz]

I don't buy the claim, in a 'having your cake and eat it' kinda way. It's tacitly conceding that Guardian did target Erg0, but trying to make out that ERg0's survival is not due to him being scum. I'd be happy with a Thesp vigging here.

[Erg0]

3. You claim to be nightkill-imune-ish, but not aware of the fact?

Also, to clarify: I've

speculated

that, not

claimed

it. I'm no more aware of the facts in this matter than you are, I'm just applying deductive reasoning based on the evidence (i.e. flavour and the missed nightkill).

[Erg0]

I'm loathe to point this out myself because it will be WIFOMed to death, but the smart move would be to have MBL vig me tonight. If I'm NK immune then that'll prove it, and we won't have to lose Thesp if he's telling the truth.

[Skruffs]

Well, no, that's wrong Erg0.
If you are immune to being killed, then it doesn't matter if you are tergetted in the day or at night.

[Erg0]

Being nightkill immune would not necessarily make me daykill immune. I don't think I've ever played in a game with a kill-immune role

and

a daykiller, but I would expect there to be a distinction between the two, as CES pointed out earlier with your theory on Thesp not being able to daykill fellow scum.

[The Fonz]

But if the flavour of your possible 'immunity' is that you come back from the dead, it would seem odd to think it applied only to one specific form of kill.

[Erg0]

I'm just going off what I've seen so far, which only suggests nightkill immunity, if any at all. I'm also concerned that it may only be a one-shot deal.

Bottom line (assuming Thesp is being truthful): if Thesp kills me and it works then we both die. If it doesn't work then I guess we just go to night with no lynch and both of us alive, which probably won't solve much in everybody else's eyes. If MBL kills me tonight then either I live or I die, but it's only me that is at risk.

I don't see any way that I'm going to survive to endgame here, even if I do turn out to be kill immune. It's pretty clear that enough people have taken Guardian's accusation to heart that I'm never going to be able to convince them that I'm not scum with the means that I have available. I'm just looking for the means of death that will be least damaging for the town.

[Kison]

Guys,

read

the rules.

All bad guys (scum) have one-shot immunity against any

scum

group.

Last I checked, MrBuddy McG died as town.

[ooba]

Ok, time for a claim.

I am Buffy Summers (aka Buffy the Vampire Slayer, for those who don't know). My PM tells me that I'm a plain old townie, but circumstancial evidence leads me to think that I may have an additional facet to my role - I suspect that I may be at least partially NK immune. This is both flavour based (Wikipedia tells me that I died and came back to life in the TV show), and also based on a possible explanation for the lack of a goblin kill on night 2.

I had a fairly specific strategy in mind for today to test this theory and try to maximise my remaining usefulness to the town, but that's unlikely to come to fruition now.

Ok first off , i believe Night kill immunity would have been specifically mentioned in your role.

Regarding the circumstantial evidence , thok protecting you is a much simpler explanation.

But there's no way that Buffy would be vanilla.

[cicero]

I predict Thesp will meander in and refuse to dayvig Erg0 despite there being an overwhelming town consensus that he do so.

[The Fonz]

Simple way around that:

Thesp: vig or die

If a normal lynch majority posts that, I don't see how he has a choice. He vigs if he can.

[Kison]

I'm gonna start wondering about you, Mr Cicero-pants, if you wind up being right about that.

[Iammars]

@Gorrad: Sorry, must have missed that. I think cicero is probably town, mostly because of the way that he argued against my wagon on Day 1 and attacked Thesp and Guardian for the original reasoning being used.

I vehemently oppose an Erg0 lynch, due to the fact that I believe his role completely, but I think that it means something else.

[cicero]

Want to expand on that last sentence there chief?

[The Fonz]

explain what you're getting at by 'means something else.'

[cicero]

I'm gonna start wondering about you, Mr Cicero-pants, if you wind up being right about that.

heh. who could predict anything different. The whole reason we want him to use his power so much is because we dont think he has it.

[Iammars]

Vampires generally represent cults. I think he's a cult-immune townie.
That's all I'm saying now.

[Skruffs]

Ooba:
Can you explain your role better?