Mini 563 - Fish Monkey God (ROCKS FALL EVERYONE DIES)

[Capricious]

here

[Capricious]

OMG, anderson is taunting the mod?

/cows andersonw

[Capricious]

cows andersonw

for thesis stated above

[Capricious]

/uncows, /cows quantumfruit

For unvoting and perhaps more

[Capricious]

Guys, let's discuss the set-up.
What we know: There are 12 players, 2 scum groups, and people that can win with town or scum.

What we can reason: 2 scum groups are at least 4 scum, and people with multiple win conditions also exist. Seems town is screwed unless there was some twist inserted.

[Capricious]

[quote=flavor text]Oh, by the way, you'll notice that you're all wearing cloaks? Yeah, everyone has a different color cloak, so... make of it what you will."
[/quote]

This is intriguing, I'm up for a cloak color mass claim[/quote]

[Capricious]

but presumably, cloak colors will be revealed upon death, so we can discern if and why anybody lied.

[Capricious]

Any speculation is better than none, even if we all have different colored cloaks. Still favor mass cloak color claim. Mine is a deep purple, almost bordering on black.

[Capricious]

What, did some of you not receive a picture of your character?

[Capricious]

There is a town, some scum, and a group of people that can win with the town, their regualr scum group, or their alternate scum group.

Perhaps because of that

[Capricious]

its healthy to give one sarcastic reply to a possible scum at least once a day

[Capricious]

Ok, I messaged the mod, and apparently my cloak color is actually "indigo".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo

scroll all the way down the page to find a color called Persian indigo, my "indigo" is darker shaded than that

[Capricious]

Exactly, so I guess your "Indigo/Dark Purple" is considered different from my indigo, or the flavor is untrustworthy, or you are lying for some absurd reason, or something else.

[Capricious]

Hmm, so far indigo/purple seems to be the most suspicious color, seeing as how my cloak is the same color and shade. Therefore

FOS: Capricious

/uncows

/cows: Ration

This is horrible, voting people just because we appear to have the same cloak colors is wrong. It would be retarded for both scum and town to lie and claim the same color as another claimant before him. Which is why I expect everyone to have told the truth or what they believe is the truth about their colors.

[Capricious]

/cows: QuantumFruit

For being in two of my minis!

Do you have a better reason for random voting at this time?

[Capricious]

feels like only six people are playing this game.

[Capricious]

Right... breakthroughs are made through talking.

Oh, did I mention? A secret faction in the Empire has been trying to take control of the Empire for a while. They're mostly peaceful, I guess, so if they're with the majority of you, then they're okay if the survivors are all regular people hoping for democracy. But it's possible that some of them might have infiltrated His Majesty's Royal Dancing Squad, and there's nothing keeping the Emperor from being a member. If they're the only people who remain, they win this little game."

What does everyone make of the alternate scum group? It appears that they can win with the town? If so, why don't we have them claim to work with the town against the Royal Dancing Squad.

The text also claims that the Emperor might also be a renegade trying to take control of the Empire? WTF?

I thought I understood this before, apparently I don't. I only have one win condition as far as I know of.

[Capricious]

a group of people that can win with the town, their regualr scum group, or their alternate scum group.

Do these people automatically win?

[Capricious]

What the hell made you all think just claiming cloak info was the best plan.

Oh, wait, Capricious said so.

Nice job just shipping free info to the scum, only people who knew other peoples cloak colors to start barring masons.

/cows Capricious

How can you assume that scum and only scum have information about the meaning of cloak colors? barring masons-so night-talking roles also have privileged information, where are you getting this?

[Capricious]

where are you getting this?

[Capricious]

Vote xyzzy

[Capricious]

I apologize deeply for my heinous and blasphemous actions. Peer pressure and all that.

[Capricious]

After reading through the thread again, I'm a little suspicious of Capricious, seeing as he was the one who started the cloak color claim, which is turning out to be a pretty dumb idea in my opinion...

You are a funny bunny. Would you rather we all sat down in a circle and hugged? Sure, it might be nothing, and probably isn't anything game-breaking, but just measuring actions and reactions to it is worth the effort. I did not want cloak colors to declare today's lynch, as I currently have no information about the meaning of colors. What I saw was something that would be out open to all without doing damage to the security of roles. I mean, it would be absurd if the scum, like armlx is claiming, really received a reference for all colors. The colors have also generated discussion; the only discussion we have going right now.
Talk=good
Silence=bad
Not to mention that some of us might have info toward cloak colors, albeit unreliable.

I would like to discuss win conditions now that we have everybody's claim.

[Capricious]

MoS and Occult do not have the property of existence, I cannot see them.

[Capricious]

Pretty sure he was making fun of us

[Capricious]

I mean, it would be absurd if the scum, like armlx is claiming, really received a reference for all colors.

Not at all. Point is scum always know N-1 more colors than the townies, where N is the number of living members in their group, meaning they will be 1-2 days ahead of us on that info.

How do you figure that? Without previously talking, scum should be only aware of their own color right now. Even when they first talk, they can know their buddies' colors, sure. But without a reference for what other colors mean, it would be meaningless. If there were masons, it would be the same situation, they know colors amongst themselves, but cannot venture to guess what color signifies what. I was hoping someone might have information on colors or that clues regarding color will be revealed when I asked for a mass claim. Don't be afraid of scum receiving info, because that info is out in the open. This is a game to find scum, not to protect power roles.

Too many lurkers, yes that means you

[Capricious]

MoS, WHAT IS YOUR CLOAK COLOR?

lol

[Capricious]

See, now this is just sad.

[Capricious]

armlx is it also ironic I was the first to claim?

Less so, more so informative.

I say we lynch Capricious and go from there. We have role based reason and info digging reason to believe he is scum, and the information we gain from his lynch should give us a monstrous advantage just based on his interactions.

I have privy information that your plan is bad.

[Capricious]

Basically, i'm only revealing this information to get the game going:

I've infiltrated the scum group, wearing a cloak of friendship. That line has lead me to believe that either capricous or ration are scum, based entirely on cloak color.

"cloak of friendship"? does your role explicitly state that people with this cloak color are scum? What about the flavor that all of us are supposed to have different cloak colors? Is the flavor trustworthy?

[Capricious]

I started the cloak color claiming more as a thing to do, to get people active, not believing that it would solve our scum problem, as I had previously explained. Any scum catching mass cloak color claiming could do would be a bonus.

I ask if the flavor is trustworthy because it is logical to believe so when we have what, 4 people claiming the same color when the mod has explicitly stated that we should all be wearing different colored cloaks.

In spite of this, I believe roffman is town, as scum have no incentive to put themselves into the fray like this, and I highly doubt that scum received a pm regarding what power role correlates to which cloak colors.

I will repeat that there are too many lurkers here. Anybody can come off as scummy as long as they are posting. I want more people to post so we can have a larger pool of potential scum to choose from.

[Capricious]

Don't exclude the possibility that roffman is mistaken in his info.

[Capricious]

I started the cloak color claiming more as a thing to do, to get people active,

Wait a minute, you started a mass info dump without a major reason to do so?

Vote stands.

There is no reason to believe that scum benefited more from the mass claim than us.

[Capricious]

I say roffman is mistaken, not lying, and town, not scum, because that-is what I believe. I am not attempting to get on anybody's good side, and never will in a game of mafia, except when perhaps I am scum.

[Capricious]

Also (and I think I accidentally lumped you and roffman in together somehow), we can find out whether roffman is telling the truth. If Capricious came out town, we could probably safely assume roffman was lying and likely to be scum.

No! This is one of the primary reasons lynching me is bad-I will be revealed as town, and what then? roffman is still likely town based on his aggressiveness even after I am revealed as town. Lynching me will not create more information than lynching our other candidates.

[Capricious]

Capricious: Scum almost ALWAYS benefit from a D1 mass claim of any variety in a non-broken set up.

The mod told us to "make of it what you will", I read that as partial instruction.

[Capricious]

Your first reason for lynching me is iffy: because there already has been a discrepancy between what we think is true and what we were told by the mod, we cannot assume anything about indigo cloaks.

2: can be achieved through lynching one of the other indigos, might be achieved in near future through unforeseen events. And of course, I still believe that us indigos actually have different colors.

3: Do you expect to figure out if Ration was scum backing town or town backing town by lynching me?

[Capricious]

How nice of you to join us, anderson. Is there any reason for you to be lurking for 6 pages, offering nothing, to pop a vote and imply lynching Ration, who I believe is town?

I can strongly defend myself and ration: We can all agree that the people claiming indigo have SOME level of intelligence, can we not? It stands to reason, then, that they would not be so retarded as to be in a scum group together and claim the same cloak color, making it sooo easy for them to be revealed. Also, notice that I claimed "deep purple", and if I had not revealed I had pmed the mod to get note that my cloak is, in fact, indigo, I could easily have passed under the radar. I could've even claimed that my color, was told to me by the mod as black if necessary to save myself. But I did not do this: because I want the truth to be out there.

roffman? Why do you hold such faith in your pm? Isn't it possible that the mod is misleading you on purpose, especially when the mod has already apparently lied? Does the game seem balanced when the game can be broken by a simple cloak claim?

Unvote, Vote:Andersonw

[Capricious]

in my limited experience of mass claims (so far just one) it is really not worth it. I can fabricate 20 justice league heroes off the top of my head , come up with sutiable mafia adaptions, and i don't even watch the show. If we do mass claim, i'm pretty sure even townies will just outright lie to stop giving scum information.

Ongoing game, but it is good evidence, and also very intriguing. roffman defines mass claims as "not worth it" but yet strongly pushes to lynch indigos.

[Capricious]

slightly strange that you've been posting regularly in other games, ignores this one, but pays attention when we appeared ready to lynch some idiot.

[Capricious]

Them wagons, they be roll fast.

[Capricious]

Ok, I messaged the mod, and apparently my cloak color is actually "indigo".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo

scroll all the way down the page to find a color called Persian indigo, my "indigo" is darker shaded than that

Do you find any problems with your reasoning?

[Capricious]

/cows Ration

Let's get a random bandwagon started.

On a side note, if everyone has a different cloak color, the color affiliations will be meaningless.

Allegedly, you had role information about cloak colors at this point, yet you point out colors might be meaningless..right.

Ok then.

My cloak is a light purple, with a tirquoisish (probably not a color) swirl.

Your cloak is a

light

purple color, with a turquoise swirl

I'd like to find out a few more cloak colors before being certain to my suspicions, but my role does contain information that leads me to believe a purple/indigo cloak is indicative of scum.

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

Not only is that shade a dark color, but as I mentioned, it's not even my color, my color is significantly deeper than that Persian indigo.

in my limited experience of mass claims (so far just one) it is really not worth it.

So let me get this straight, you have found a grand total of three! scum in this game through mass claiming, but feel mass claiming is not worth it in another game.

Oh, by the way, you'll notice that you're all wearing cloaks? Yeah, everyone has a different color cloak, so... make of it what you will."

evidence that flavor might be unreliable.

Finally- You claim to have infiltrated the scum wearing a cloak of friendship. Why would you have a turquoise swirl that sets you off from the rest of scum, then? Wouldn't the scum recognize you as a traitor, then? Do any of your points make sense?

Despite this, roffman isn't scum, because he has no incentive to be putting himself at the center of attention, unless he is a mistaken town. I am fairly certain that the scum are distributed between the lurkers and the people edging roffman in their unholy endeavors.

[Capricious]

Capricious:

Your arguments are bad.

/cows Ration

Let's get a random bandwagon started.

On a side note, if everyone has a different cloak color, the color affiliations will be meaningless.

Allegedly, you had role information about cloak colors at this point, yet you point out colors might be meaningless..right.

Why would he reveal he had info about cloak colors pre-claim if people where already claiming? Lets just give the scum a heads up.

Ok then.

My cloak is a light purple, with a tirquoisish (probably not a color) swirl.

Your cloak is a

light

purple color, with a turquoise swirl

I'd like to find out a few more cloak colors before being certain to my suspicions, but my role does contain information that leads me to believe a purple/indigo cloak is indicative of scum.

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

Not only is that shade a dark color, but as I mentioned, it's not even my color, my color is significantly deeper than that Persian indigo.

Why would his cloak have to be the exact same color?

in my limited experience of mass claims (so far just one) it is really not worth it.

So let me get this straight, you have found a grand total of three! scum in this game through mass claiming, but feel mass claiming is not worth it in another game.

Nice job telling us he caught scum. BTW, mass claims are awkward without this kind of info.

Oh, by the way, you'll notice that you're all wearing cloaks? Yeah, everyone has a different color cloak, so... make of it what you will."

evidence that flavor might be unreliable.

So your out is to say the mod is lying.

Finally- You claim to have infiltrated the scum wearing a cloak of friendship. Why would you have a turquoise swirl that sets you off from the rest of scum, then? Wouldn't the scum recognize you as a traitor, then? Do any of your points make sense?

Despite this, roffman isn't scum, because he has no incentive to be putting himself at the center of attention, unless he is a mistaken town. I am fairly certain that the scum are distributed between the lurkers and the people edging roffman in their unholy endeavors.

Way to buddy up

Your first point: Why would he reveal he had info about colors? He shouldn't. But that's not the point here, the point is that he was arguing that colors might be meaningless, when he could've shut up about the subject if he really had god info, and scum wouldn't be the wiser.

2: Why would his cloak have to be the same exact color? Possibly, just possibly because that's what roffman is claiming: ergo,

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

3: I was trying to look at it from his supposed perspective: he found a large number of scum through mass claiming, but dismisses mass claiming as counterproductive. That is odd. You were just trying to twist the situation.

4: I

am

out to say the mod might be lying, mods lie all the time
As demonstrated by the fact that:

Mod tells us we all have different colors
Some of us claim to have the same color.

Analysis will lead from the above two statements that the Mod or some of us are lying or misguided.

5: I feel roffman is town, because he has no reason to do what he did as scum. You call this buddying up. Nice try.


armlx:

retarded (politically correct terms, misguided) town?
scum?

That is the question.

[Capricious]

Could you also replace about five others?

[Capricious]

Do you feel compelled to explain anything, roffman? namely, the numerous holes in your statements.

[Capricious]

hi

[Capricious]

I need a replacement due to other matters.

Okay.

It's okay, he's probably scum.

[Capricious]

Ok, people are asking for a complete info dump. Give me a list of questions, and i'll answer them to the best of my ability.

1. Have you read the last two pages?

[Capricious]

yes.

2. you can't find a list of questions to answer?

[Capricious]

DizzyIzzyB13 - If you're so interested in the program maybe we could have him upload it to megaupload? Or wait, is that against the rules or something?

21st century scumhunting

[Capricious]

/cows Ration

Let's get a random bandwagon started.

On a side note, if everyone has a different cloak color, the color affiliations will be meaningless.

Allegedly, you had role information about cloak colors at this point, yet you point out colors might be meaningless..right.

Ok then.

My cloak is a light purple, with a tirquoisish (probably not a color) swirl.

Your cloak is a

light

purple color, with a turquoise swirl

I'd like to find out a few more cloak colors before being certain to my suspicions, but my role does contain information that leads me to believe a purple/indigo cloak is indicative of scum.

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

Not only is that shade a dark color, but as I mentioned, it's not even my color, my color is significantly deeper than that Persian indigo.

in my limited experience of mass claims (so far just one) it is really not worth it.

So let me get this straight, you have found a grand total of three! scum in this game through mass claiming, but feel mass claiming is not worth it in another game.

Oh, by the way, you'll notice that you're all wearing cloaks? Yeah, everyone has a different color cloak, so... make of it what you will."

evidence that flavor might be unreliable.

Finally- You claim to have infiltrated the scum wearing a cloak of friendship. Why would you have a turquoise swirl that sets you off from the rest of scum, then? Wouldn't the scum recognize you as a traitor, then? Do any of your points make sense?

Despite this, roffman isn't scum, because he has no incentive to be putting himself at the center of attention, unless he is a mistaken town. I am fairly certain that the scum are distributed between the lurkers and the people edging roffman in their unholy endeavors.

[Capricious]

Why the hell did roffman claim? I still believed he was misled town, and only wanted him to answer why he was so adamant in his belief of purple cloaks with evidence to the contrary. Who forged a claim out of roffman?

[Capricious]

they are perfectly compatible, though we have no way to confirm he is town now.

[Capricious]

My opinion has yet to change, and has been further affirmed by roffman's claim.

Time to lynch Cap?

I like your blind faith

[Capricious]

Cap: since you have the most votes, will you please make the case as to why you shouldn't be voted for?

hahahaha

[Capricious]

go back and read, this whole wagon on me was founded on blind following the insane. I have already proven why this is.

[Capricious]

I now see why people love being a day vig

[Capricious]

/cows Ration

Let's get a random bandwagon started.

On a side note, if everyone has a different cloak color, the color affiliations will be meaningless.

Allegedly, you had role information about cloak colors at this point, yet you point out colors might be meaningless..right.

Ok then.

My cloak is a light purple, with a tirquoisish (probably not a color) swirl.

Your cloak is a

light

purple color, with a turquoise swirl

I'd like to find out a few more cloak colors before being certain to my suspicions, but my role does contain information that leads me to believe a purple/indigo cloak is indicative of scum.

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

Not only is that shade a dark color, but as I mentioned, it's not even my color, my color is significantly deeper than that Persian indigo.

in my limited experience of mass claims (so far just one) it is really not worth it.

So let me get this straight, you have found a grand total of three! scum in this game through mass claiming, but feel mass claiming is not worth it in another game.

Oh, by the way, you'll notice that you're all wearing cloaks? Yeah, everyone has a different color cloak, so... make of it what you will."

evidence that flavor might be unreliable.

Finally- You claim to have infiltrated the scum wearing a cloak of friendship. Why would you have a turquoise swirl that sets you off from the rest of scum, then? Wouldn't the scum recognize you as a traitor, then? Do any of your points make sense?

Despite this, roffman isn't scum, because he has no incentive to be putting himself at the center of attention, unless he is a mistaken town. I am fairly certain that the scum are distributed between the lurkers and the people edging roffman in their unholy endeavors.

[Capricious]

Cap, all you have done to defend yourself is say "Person with role infi is lying!!11!!1". Not a good defense.

Without his supposed ironclad role information, what else do you have?

[Capricious]

/cows Ration

Let's get a random bandwagon started.

On a side note, if everyone has a different cloak color, the color affiliations will be meaningless.

Allegedly, you had role information about cloak colors at this point, yet you point out colors might be meaningless..right.

Ok then.

My cloak is a light purple, with a tirquoisish (probably not a color) swirl.

Your cloak is a

light

purple color, with a turquoise swirl

I'd like to find out a few more cloak colors before being certain to my suspicions, but my role does contain information that leads me to believe a purple/indigo cloak is indicative of scum.

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

Not only is that shade a dark color, but as I mentioned, it's not even my color, my color is significantly deeper than that Persian indigo.

in my limited experience of mass claims (so far just one) it is really not worth it.

So let me get this straight, you have found a grand total of three! scum in this game through mass claiming, but feel mass claiming is not worth it in another game.

Oh, by the way, you'll notice that you're all wearing cloaks? Yeah, everyone has a different color cloak, so... make of it what you will."

evidence that flavor might be unreliable.

Finally- You claim to have infiltrated the scum wearing a cloak of friendship. Why would you have a turquoise swirl that sets you off from the rest of scum, then? Wouldn't the scum recognize you as a traitor, then? Do any of your points make sense?

Despite this, roffman isn't scum, because he has no incentive to be putting himself at the center of attention, unless he is a mistaken town. I am fairly certain that the scum are distributed between the lurkers and the people edging roffman in their unholy endeavors.

argument>bad info

[Capricious]

Unvote, Vote: DizzyIzzy

she coerced a full claim out of roffman.

[Capricious]

Maybe he had nothing more to lose, but we had more to lose. After his first statements, you people got clarification that he is a roleblocker of killing roles.

[Capricious]

you: people that are not me. I am me.

people: humans.

armlx: do you by chance, live on a farm? BS is one of the primary resources and components of a farm, just saying.

[Capricious]

/cows Ration

Let's get a random bandwagon started.

On a side note, if everyone has a different cloak color, the color affiliations will be meaningless.

Allegedly, you had role information about cloak colors at this point, yet you point out colors might be meaningless..right.

Ok then.

My cloak is a light purple, with a tirquoisish (probably not a color) swirl.

Your cloak is a

light

purple color, with a turquoise swirl

I'd like to find out a few more cloak colors before being certain to my suspicions, but my role does contain information that leads me to believe a purple/indigo cloak is indicative of scum.

At Anix, i'd just like to mention that my cloak color is the exact same shade as mentioned in the wiki article by Capricious, and also claimed by Ration

Not only is that shade a dark color, but as I mentioned, it's not even my color, my color is significantly deeper than that Persian indigo.

in my limited experience of mass claims (so far just one) it is really not worth it.

So let me get this straight, you have found a grand total of three! scum in this game through mass claiming, but feel mass claiming is not worth it in another game.

Oh, by the way, you'll notice that you're all wearing cloaks? Yeah, everyone has a different color cloak, so... make of it what you will."

evidence that flavor might be unreliable.

Finally- You claim to have infiltrated the scum wearing a cloak of friendship. Why would you have a turquoise swirl that sets you off from the rest of scum, then? Wouldn't the scum recognize you as a traitor, then? Do any of your points make sense?

Despite this, roffman isn't scum, because he has no incentive to be putting himself at the center of attention, unless he is a mistaken town. I am fairly certain that the scum are distributed between the lurkers and the people edging roffman in their unholy endeavors.

[Capricious]

answer that, you still have not done so, and have not explained why you continue to support roffman's beliefs in spite of overwhelming evidence.

[Capricious]

I am as well satisfied with Ration's response will not be /cows'ing him.

I've got a rouge-like brown red for my color.

I do not like this, and this is the more solid reason I am voting Dizzy for.

[Capricious]

You are mistaken, for I am not you. I am not attacking him for his rouge color.

[Capricious]

go ahead and lynch me, maybe then you people can finally get past the naive notion that the game can be broken with a simple claim, and can actually find some scum: e.g. DizzyIzzy

Unvote, Vote: Capricious

I am a cop.

Those arguing that my lynch is a good one for the bounty of information it brings are faulty. Upon me being revealed as town, we don't know anything about the indigo cloaks; they are just as likely to be scum as anyone else. So, what next, go after roffman and lynch him: hoping to get more information? I have already expressed that he is probably town for putting himself out there. We won't have a clue about what to do.

[Capricious]

I am as well satisfied with Ration's response will not be /cows'ing him.

I've got a rouge-like brown red for my color.

I do not like this, and this is the more solid reason I am voting Dizzy for.

So... you're voting me based on something that the guy I replaced said? That's clever. You're essentially going after me for something I can't possibly defend against, if you're not commenting on the cloak colour.

You are held accountable for your previous incarnation's actions as you two have the same role. It is our duty to point out scummy behavior from you or Justin. If we ignored Justin's posts we would have lost content.

Mod Edit: Fixed a quote tag

[Capricious]

Also, I have information that implies strongly that there is a cult in this game.

[Capricious]

The so called "alternate scum group" is implied to be a cult. This is not definitive, however. The alternate scum group may just be an ordinary scum group, or it may be a survivor's group, I'm not sure, the flavor implies cult, but leaves room for other possibilities.. This is also why I feel roffman may be misled by his PM.

[Capricious]

The self vote is an act of frustration, a face palm, if you will.

You are the paramount leader of my wagon, and you have established the wagon based on (insert 0 or negative # here). Roffman continues to ignore my points on his discrepancies, and you continue to ignore why you still believe in my wagon after those discrepancies were enumerated.

I don't care if you remove your vote or not, I want the truth to be revealed. A vote is not a truth. Your opinion is not a truth.

The flavor is exceedingly short

I possess a device.

Because the theme of this game is Fish Monkey God, the device is actually a relic.

The device's previous owner is scum.

I use the device to investigate.

I cannot find regular mafia members (Dancing Squad) using this device, only members of the alternate scum group. The alternate scum group is implied to be a cult.

In practicality, my power is rather weak.

[Capricious]

There is a town, some scum, and a group of people that can win with the town, their regualr scum group, or their alternate scum group.

I have pointed this out before, but it seems that some people win automatically. I am not one of these privileged ones, and do not understand this.

[Capricious]

Because of the method of investigation, I believe myself to be sane, but nothing is certain.

[Capricious]

i'm here, i just don't think anything cap has accused me of as being relevant, i have fully revealed my role, and now it is up to you to decide who to lynch

roffman, you seem to be looking at this as the lynch of the day is either you or me. You would only think this if you:

have not read my posts

have not read half the game

[Capricious]

@mikeburnfire: I don't find the slip especially portentous - the purple cloak, the attacks based on flawed premises - that's what bothered me. (just thought I'd address that)

@Capricious: Okay, I think I believe you. Any theories on why roffman is misled, though? Like, what would lead him to be misled? Are you saying town people have purple cloaks so if roffman's town he has a purple cloak (logically, in terms of camouflaging into scum, wouldn't really work - but who knows?...)? What is the alternate scum group called?

For now,

/uncows: Capricious

. I don't especially want this fellow to get lynched at the moment; not that he's in danger any more.

...As to roffman, perhaps he's gone somewhere? I'm in another game with him and he hasn't posted in a while (though I can't remember whether he's dead or not ).

I'm not saying purple cloaks are town, I am saying without any other basis, they are equally likely to be scum as any others. I have pointed out roffman's discrepancies too many times. I don't know what the alternate scum group is called.

[Capricious]

/uncows

as well. Ongoing events have caused me to rethink my stance in light of the claim.

Given this, and the mod comment that everyone has a different cloak color, I'm liable to think someone is lying. As ration was also mod told indigo, LAL may apply here. Have to think some more though, but a

FOS ration

is in order.

What has caused the shift in your opinion? Your previous stance was basically, Cap needs to die... Cap must die... Cap should die... die... Die.. It's strange that you are willing to consider other possibilities now, namely the logic that the mod or someone is perhaps lying. Could it be that the shift was made because the general opinion became that I should not be lynched?

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There is a town, some scum, and a group of people that can win with the town, their regualr scum group, or their alternate scum group.

Quantum, why do you not read?

[Capricious]

Umm, given the mod post at the start of the game says alternate scum group, I'm very inclined to now think Cap pulled his role from there, the Cult part from MoS's role name, etc.

/cows Capricious

If he is an alt. group cop, we learn there is an alt group for sure. If he's not, which is what I'm assuming at this point, he's either a member of the alt group confirming it, or just plain scum which puts the odds of a cult a bit lower.

Ridiculous, I'm 99% positive MoS and Occult have absolutely no relation to this game, and were just screwing around.

So you are now claiming that lynching claimed cops day 1 is optimal play now, right?

I see no part in your play that even considers what to do on day 2. All your play has focused on lynching me.

[Capricious]

/cows Capricious

I'm not exactly happy with how he's playing. It's giving me bad vibes.

This is classic

[Capricious]

Although, as roffman said, Ration might make an okay alternative on the info front...

Doubt it. If he's not scum, cult cop is a really weak role, as it only gives results on 1 person we want to lynch (the leader) muddled with results on recruits that we don't want to lynch, so the lost value isn't that high. We also then know there is a cult, which drastically changes game play (every lynch must go for the cult leader rather than mafia or we lose terribly).

How do you suppose we will find the cult leader after lynching me, via your scumhunting skills ? It's also false that we must go after the cult over mafia, lynching any scum will be fine.

[Capricious]

Anix, please come and deliver some sense into the town.

[Capricious]

cows: Capricious

I know I condemned it earlier, but I'm hopping on this bandwagon, too. Dizzy said it well: his play has simply not been up to par, and I think we could all use the information his lynch would provide.

Although, as roffman said, Ration might make an okay alternative on the info front...

what is this par you speak of, and who among us, meet it? All anybody has done is say: "Capri is scum if we ignore logic and sensibility, and I want to get Capri lynched based on nothing at all" or alternatively, "Capri is town, but I want to lynch him for information that could prove false, even though numbers are the only thing we have to our advantage.

[Capricious]

rofl "cloak of friendship"