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[pisskop]

VOTE: vote

[Srceenplay]

platinum (aka Judge Joseph Dredd) came into the thread like a giant manbaby and whined about being replaced and outed he was scum with PMyst.

The thing is, this is actually a lie. I'm not scum at all. If the game does continue, I promise to claim as soon as Day 2 starts.

i dont think PM claimed, this was the only thing they said wrt claiming

i think lore shot and i think mafia's kill might have been uhhh a failure

^

i shot who the majority of the town seemed to think i should shoot. i spent a lot of time deliberating between WM, PM, and mutton (my own vendetta) but PM was the one that i settled on. i hate that she was a 2nd night vig - i feel like i failed.

the options are either 1. mafia failed or 2. mafia also tried to kill pm? 3. mafia intentionally didn't kill for some reason?

So most of the day lore was voting transcend.
After JJD debacle saying he was scum with PM was seen as trolling,
they shot PM anyway instead of transcend whom they were wanting lynched most of the day?

[Egg]

Is everyone just blindly following transcend?

I'm not.

Can someone tell me where's the case on me so I can actually you know, defend myself

I did. You wrote it off as tone and bullshit.

[massive]

I am 5 pages in and I saw so much fluff I want to take my eyes out.

Ok

We all took a solemn oath to help Boon get the largest Mafia game thread ever.

[Vedith]

\o/

[Srceenplay]

I'm too tired to comprehend anything. Next full night of sleep is saturday.

ISO'd lore and waffles to see what they say they did last night. Looks like we didn't get much info out of it. Lore might be telling the truth though because pmyst as a shot from scum doesn't make much sense.

why does PM make sense as a "Vig" shot but not scum? He softed as pr. I would think town vig might be apprehensive about shooting a pr but scum wouldn't be.

[massive]

Srceen do you want to go back and revisit Lore for some reason?

[Srceenplay]

It caught my interest while I was rereading.

[texcat]

At the end of Day 1, this was 4T's suggestions for night actions. So scum would have to have at least a guess that Lore would shoot PM. With plenty of other targets, I doubt scum would take the chance of a double kill. What are you re-reading, Screen?

Lynch JJD.

Lore shoots PM.

Waffles on Tchill.

On Day 2, Lore took credit for the kill and explained the non-read of the soft claim.

i shot pm. i didn't read pm's claim as a soft pr claim though looking back now i can see why i should. it just didn't really even occur to me that thats what she might have been doing and the town seemed on board with a pm kill last night. like i said: i went back and forth between PM and WM (to try and get one of the town favored scum, tchill was not on my lsit because waffles was going to "confirm" him) and Mutton (my personal vendetta). i decided to follow what i thought the town majority would prefer since few if anyone else read mutton as scummy. that said: i do feel like total shit for shooting a pr so like..... sorry. i am basically vt now since i've used my one and only night action so i care much less if you guys want to lynch me today but it would still be a mistake over lynching actual scum.

waffles i can see as being scum aligned or town aligned. i made it pretty clear that i was considering shooting tchill last night then waffles comes in and says he is a VT healer/investigator/thing and tchill jumped in with a "INVESTIGATE ME" which could be a weird scum plan, esp IF there is day chat which we don't and wont know unless there is a role that somehow reveals that which from what i know isn't a thing.

@WhyMafia, What is your case on TChill? Are you still voting there?

[Srceenplay]

I was reading chill.
That got me reading lore.
Then egg said he's eggplaned his whymafia read.
So I read egg and saw another thing about lore.

[Srceenplay]

Thanks Texcat.
You have helped clear up two things for me.


Hopefully later tonight I will read WhyMafia again.

[WhyMafia]

Shinobi,
WHYMAFIA:
-This one is mostly gut, but see posts 57, 623, 934, and 3818 for further explanation on that.
-His reaction to the initial theta case was ugly
-He OMGUS'd the hell out of vedith by suddenly getting scummy vibes when vedith started to push him
-A lot of the questions he's asked give me more of a blending vibe than they give me the impression he's looking for scum. I've questioned him on some of these questions throughout the game.

TEXCAT:
-There was weak stuff early that I didn't pay much attention to, but still questioned like her reaction to lapsa's confirmation, the naked vote on penguin, and the very sideline reaction to wagons shifting.
-The reaction to lapsa getting some votes rubbed me the wrong way.
-She was very quick to sheep vedith after he called something a "scum claim" when it wasn't. Weird for such a passive player
-She almost seemed too sure scum have daytalk with her theory that scum gave waffles his claim, but then needed to be prodded to give names of players capable of coming up with it.
-Null reading tchill seems impossible to me so that's weird.
-The assumption that lore or waffles is lying stands out. I'm still trying to sort that for sure, but it could be either scum doubtcasting claims or scum with more info than the rest of us about what happened last night.

JJH:
-This is all left over from Gamma. I haven't really seen anything from jjh that I can get a read off of.

TRANSCEND:
-I admit some of this might just be frustration with the way he plays, but he did have one bad 180, a reads list with wayyyyy too many town, and a moment where he was getting wagoned for not doing anything and chose that of all moments to be the one time he gives meaningful contribution (although to be fair he also had the crush case recently). I get the feeling he's trying to survive, but give off the "*shrug* I don't give a fuck" impression

PISSKOP:
-I'm rushing now because I'm headed in to work, but there was early buddying, defensiveness to vedith, and a weird reaction to the pmyst kill.

And with that, I'm back to work for two days.

Ok
I still don't see where I'm scum apart from you saying my reaction was bad. I liked the case, so I voted for it
What was scummy about what I said? I have no idea how I've been blending when I've pushed tes even when practically everyone town reads him ...
And OMGUS is hardly a tell imo. It's my general frustration that I'm being scum read and don't know what I can do to prevent it

[Fykus]

Yo wm what are your thouhts on the multiball theory?

[Transcend]

Pdodge

[WhyMafia]

Yo wm what are your thouhts on the multiball theory?

??? The one where we are saying it's multiball? Or something else

[Assemblerotws]

Relevant quotes from the ISOs of Theta and Waffles:

Spoiler: my reads

pisskop=null-town
i am still voting you but i will try and rectify that soon as i find a better vote
honestly i think i voted you for your self-vote at the start of the game but looking through the rest of your iso you actually look pretty good
not perfect
i mean i never got why gamma is scum on meta reasons and you never posted links to games with examples and comparisons which would be extremely helpful
but you do look pretty town


transcend=town-null
i do not like the short posts but you do seem to be game solving
also why do so many of you seem to be self-voting i really do not get that


muttonchopmagic=town
not entirely sure whether the posting restriction would be town or not
or whether that is a posting restriction or just how you play
but i do actually like a lot of your posts and either way the rhyming is fun and kind of refreshing to see in this game


ginngie=null-town
on the one hand i actually have a gut feeling ginngie is town
and there is evidence to support that in her iso
in the form of meta and getting other people to talk
i do not have much else to reason that ginngie is town though
which is why my read is null-town instead of town


penguinpower=null-scum
hey my first scum read
although honestly it is on a lurker
you have pretty much only been voting and pushing one person the entire game which i do not like
even though i have also only voted a single person through the game you have kept pushing transcend
saying you will change your mind
and then voting transcend again


lore=null
i get why people have scum-read him in the past
and some of his posts have been less than stellar
but i have a gut feeling lore is town
and he does seem to actually be engaged in the game unlike some people

this is as far as i got

p-edit
nothing further until post-game
i will still be watching this game and i would not be opposed to replacing back into this slot at a later time if that becomes an option

"Scumread" on PP back before they'd have any proof who was scum and who wasn't. I'd say Theta didn't really believe PP was scum and wanted someone to throw shade on.
I'll have to look at pisskop's ISO myself later.

Hey guys. I'm going to skim read (because that's a lot of posts), but is there something extremely important?

WhyMafia is the favoured lynch of today if you wish to vote there.

Say what now

VOTE: WhyMC accept it.

Joining Vedith's wagon on WhyMafia. Not sure why.

Not.

Also stop with the prof pics.

Okay, do you want anything else from us in the meantime?

I don't understand what a prof pic is?

Your avatar.

And I'm just going to vote Why until I find an actual lynch candidate.

Claims not to suspect Why but doesn't take vote off.

Uhh... I should probably vote someone that'll actually get lynched today.

Like the stuff you "read" is probably the pique of suspense for today.

Well I wouldn't know seeing as I didn't read really anything from before my replacement.

But from that I find Lore scummy and Trans townie.


Also @Why I ISO'd you and I'm getting scummy vibes from you too.

More looks at Why's ISO will be necessary, and also a change in mind. Again, a confirmed scum saying they scumread Why probably means they didn't unless they knew there was a multiball.

Trans, lay it on the table... What your personal problem with me, Gamma and Mutton?!

It's confusing.

Also was Lore hammered?

I wanna vote this.
VOTE: SlingshitWaffles

What is this?

Uhh...why?

You're shading Lore + Lore claimed PR.

How is asking if they were hammered shading?

I find them scummy, but if they claimed a PR then I'm (probably) not lynching them D1.
(Definitely to look into in the future though)

Claims to back off on my predecessor...

So Sling will only lynch VT claims day 1?

With Lore's claim, I don't know.

But I didn't even say that, I said probably wouldn't vote them.

But for the only reason that it was a PR claim.
That's fucking stupid.
So if any other Scum claim a PR you'll sit there twiddling thumbs waiting for a VT claim?

It depends on the claim, and how the player was acting.

More justification for backing off...

I don't know.

You seem to be ignoring many parts of what I said though.

No I am focused on what you originally said, not what you changed it to when I called you out.

Still then I said probably wouldn't.
Lore's claim makes me kinda eh, but they've been acting scummy enough imo.

So I'm confused. Will you vote Lore or No?

Yes I will.

But votes for them anyway.

I thought you would vote Lore, Sling?

I would.

Are you saying I should?

Well im just wondering why you're not. You said they are scummy enough to vote.

Well if I should, then I will.

VOTE: Lore
L-2 right?

Alrighty
After saying he wouldn't lynch the PR, he voted, guess who? THE PR!

You didn't read then.

I said I probably wouldn't vote a PR but I Lore feels very scummy to me. But the claim is eh.

As with piss and Why, so with me. Scum giving a scum read means either multiball or probable town.

Then what changed?

After people started flipping out at me I reread.

Strange justification.

I am a Neapolitan Vanilla-Only Doctor.

I target someone and find if they're a VT or not, and if they are I heal them.

The claim.

Alrighty

Well how's this for a plan?

Lore shoots JJD
Waffles cops TChill

We lynch, PM?

Sounds good to me.

People might not be on board with the lynch though.
I'll also need to reread PM because I don't remember them.

Note that this was from before platinum scumclaimed.

Day 2:

I got a VT result from Tchill and healed him.
He's Town.

I suspect he was at least telling the truth about this.

Let's all be friends instead.
And why is everyone suddenly SR'ing Tex? I mean ...I think he's scum, but yesterday nobody supported me. What changed?

When texcat said that waffles claim sounded real, it became apparent to me she was scum too.

So they're scum because they believed my claim?
Wtf?

i think lore shot and i think mafia's kill might have been uhhh a failure

So there's a doc/rber or they targeted tchill?

Waffle. Thoughts on letting you live another day and you check, say me?

Obviously you have no knowledge if I'm VT or PR, and although the odds are in your favour as me VT, I'll take the chance.

I think it'd be best if I didn't claim who I was targeting so I could still potentially have a chance to stop the NK.

Why- tone feels off, trying to blend in
ABR- he's ignoring all my questions and such with a "don't care you're scum"
Tex- don't like the PM stuff and (some) talk with 4T

Sorry I'm not good with reasoning. I generally use mainly gut reads.

Once again, either they suspected multiball, they lied about their reads, or both.

I think that accounts for everyone, let me know if i missed someone

Waffles

and

4t

are still up as far as i can see

Lapsa, Tchill

Transcend, Ginngie, Lore, Mutton

Egg, Lexa, Crush, 4T, Massive, JJH

PP, Vedith, Pisskop

ABR, WM, Tex

I used the players that Lore had in theirs, so I might've missed someone/gotten a replacement wrong.

Waffles is probably scum.

Ya. He's conf SK.

Serial Killer was not part of Waffles's original claim, interestingly enough. Advice from a scumbuddy?

Ugh. VOTE: Why

Consider yourself slapped, Waffles

Is slap a Daykill?

Slap: jjh

(joke)

But I actually don't think that Maf hit Tchill.

He'd be in a position to know, wouldn't he?

I have been following along but haven't had time to reread everything I wanted.

Crush claimed VT. Wouldn't it be more likely for scum to claim a power role to get out of a lynch?

Whereas that would make sense, I have rarely seen that happen.

I have, though not on this site.

[Fykus]

Yo wm what are your thouhts on the multiball theory?

??? The one where we are saying it's multiball? Or something else

Yeah that one

[Tchill13]

Had waffles been recruited in on N1 he may have been in position to know. That's the only way I think though. He wouldnt be in scum chat unless he was targeted by scum or he targeted a member. I believe that was in his pm.

[Fykus]

I find it strange he didnt die on n1 if hed claimed. But why would mafia kill him last night? And if it was mafia itd have to another team.

[Srceenplay]

So if it's multi ball it's still reasonable that only a vig killed night one?
I think it's to far fetched to be both.

[Srceenplay]

I find it strange he didnt die on n1 if hed claimed. But why would mafia kill him last night? And if it was mafia itd have to another team.

That almost guarantees two different killing groups. That means two protects on n1. Hard to believe.

[Tchill13]

Unless the group killed waffles and he got recruited in. Hard to believe yeah but that maybe what happened.

[Boonskiies]

uhm

[Boonskiies]

what

[Boonskiies]

is