Trying to find some extra time to reread this game. I will analyze gorckat, Arakorn, and neko2086 separately, in that order. I will not be analyzing soupfly since – as I mentioned before – I will not believe the existence of a mafia inventor who can kill twice on the same night (or would have chosen to role-block Tarhalindur without also killing on that same night).
Note
: I will be gone this Thursday until approximately Sunday.
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gorckat
~~ To understand the commentary I give, I would highly suggest clicking the links provided, reading the relevant posts, and then reading my commentary. ~~
The first post 'of note' that I could distinguish was
Post 70, where he places the third vote on Archaist (now me) with no explanation. This strikes me more as a gameplay indicator than an alignment indicator.
However,
Post 83 has a vote which appears to be stemming from faulty logic (although it may have been done to make a 'point'). The relevant part is this:
Situations in which MeMe could be scum:
One situation, possibly two others
Situations in which soupfly could be scum:
Three situations
If there are more concrete situations where soupfly could be scum than concrete situations where MeMe could be scum, it would make more sense for gorckat to have voted
soupfly
instead of MeMe. This could be potential distancing, and the 'best' sort – there is no way anybody could 'follow' gorckat onto MeMe based on that particular line of logic, but gorckat still gets a 'reasoned' vote against MeMe in the process. Unless he was being facetious, though, he did claim that "his last two votes have been very well thought out" (those being the Archaist and MeMe votes).
Post 99 seems somewhat contrary to the attitude gorckat has been displaying. He claims to be deliberately ignoring questions, but then questions others. Granted, I can agree with "playing with one's cards close to one's chest", but after having MeMe-scum endorse that strategy this game, it could have been an indirect 'defense' of gorckat's posting (in that her saying as much would get others to think better of gorckat's posts than they otherwise would be, without MeMe having to use gorckat's name in such a way that he would seem connected to her).
Another unexplained vote in
Post 120 on SirWario, which appears to have an explanation in
Post 122, namely "you should have commented more", which is at the very least ironic considering gorckat's lack of commentary up to this point of the game.
A conversation takes place between MeMe and gorckat from
Post 132 to
Post 135. I've read it through a couple times now, and I've decided it is not indicative of gorckat's alignment either way, but this is the longest conversation between these two that I have seen thus far.
NOTE: It would probably be worth the effort to read this section of the game – namely, starting from page 6/7 – in the view that scum (if they were paying attention) were probably becoming frustrated with their partner, Sikario8. He was making some particularly bad posts, such as
Post 128,
Post 141,
Post 143,
Post 163, etc. In my opinion, it is likely that at this point in time, Sikario8's partners would try to pay Sikario8 as little attention as possible, in hopes that others would not push him too hard given his latest posting. I think we can say MeMe, at the very least, did exactly this in her
Post 147.
Another unexplained vote in
Post 151, this time on neko2086. He gives a vague reasoning in
Post 158, and ends his post asking yet
another
player (Archaist) to explain
their
vote while gorckat does the exact opposite. MeMe joins in attacking Archaist in the very next post.
When neko2086 argues that MeMe's vote on RideTheBomb may have been unreasonable, gorckat offers a weak defense in
Post 181.
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My biggest question so far
: It seems pretty clear that at this interval of the game, Sikario8 was doing a good deal of stupid things. Objectively, I would think that – given his posting style which appears in this game – gorckat would have gone after him or voted him (likely without reasons) by this point. Gorckat, can you explain if there was a particular reason you did not vote Sikario8 around this time?
A conversation between gorckat and Sikario8 occurs from
Post 193 to about
Post 197, where gorckat explains his reasons for voting neko2086. His reasons were as follows:
1.)
"I voted neko because he seemed to say one thing and do another a few times".
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Note:
This is unsupported by itself.
2.)
"soupfly pointed out his blandness and hesitancy to voice suspicion, which I'd seen but couldn't verbalize (it was an unconscious cue/read on my part)."
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Note:
This reasoning came from soupfly in
Post 184.
3.)
"You've caught another inconsistency of the same character as the ones that made me vote him"
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Note:
This reasoning came from Sikario8 in
Post 196
So far, then, all of gorckat's reasons have come from somebody else first.
Sikario8's
Post 203 is a bit confusing, in that he gives gorckat "+5 town points" for saying nothing which has not been said before.
We have a defense for his unexplained neko2086 vote in
Post 212. He falls back on the question "Do you expect each vote to have original reasons to back it up?". I think the answer is
yes
, especially if you are the first person to vote somebody.
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Question
: When you are the first person to vote somebody, would you agree that you ought to have original reasons?
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Question
: Now that it is later in the game, for what reasons did you choose not to
explain
your 'reasons' early in the game?
Finally get an elaboration in
Post 220. This is actually a good post – the only
problem
is that there is no way of telling whether or not gorckat
actually
had these reasons in mind when he voted neko2086, or if he compiled them during the long period he had to think of reasoning. He tosses in another reason in
Post 246.
An explanation for the Archaist vote
Post 273, which is precisely how I would expect
anybody
to explain that particular vote (i.e. for bandwagon/pressure reasons).
Okay, I have to leave for dinner, I just finished reading up to page 11 under the gorckat analysis. I will try to finish when I can find time.