Mini 550: KSFV: Game Over

[Rosso Carne]

alright fine, but when the cult grows uncontrollably, im getting replaced.

[armlx]

I fail to see how mass claims would out a cult leader.

[SensFan]

95% sure that GS is unable to do anything but claim, and has no choice in his claims. I really don't get that, unless the Mod gave him a list of claims to claim, in order...

[ryan]

But if he were given a list of claims how does he know when to use them? I mean is it so many per page?

[Unity]

So how does the cult thing work? All I've ever seen is town and scum.

[SensFan]

ryan - Well, according to my form of questioning, GS showed that he could only claim, and had no choice as to what he could claim. I even phrased it in such a way that I never gave him any specifics on what to claim.

Unity - A Cult Leader chooses someone to recruit every night. Anyone recruited becomes pro-Cult instead of pro-Town. If the majority of the living people are pro-Cult, the Cult wins.

[Unity]

Seems like an impossible to win game. I mean even if you lynched a cultie every day you could never kill them all.

[armlx]

If the leader dies, the cult stops recruiting and depending on the game can either A) revert to their original identities or B) remain pro-cult, possibly with a night kill. B is the most likely scenario.

[Unity]

So how would we be able to establish the identity of the cult leader through a mass-claim?

[Unity]

EBWODP: I mean wouldn't he just lie about his identity?

[vIQleS]

OK - I've been busy and haven't had time for any detailed analysis, but I'm leaning toward rosso at the moment. We figured out that you're a NK and that's supposed to scare us into a mass roleclaim? Not buying that.

Big-Bold-FOS: Rosso Carne

[SensFan]

So how would we be able to establish the identity of the cult leader through a mass-claim?

That, I don't know.

[ryan]

Sensfan: Didn't you get on me for bringing up a Jester earlier and now you're throwing out this cult crap?

[SensFan]

So how does the cult thing work? All I've ever seen is town and scum.

Ryan, I didnt bring up Cult. Unity wanted an explanation on how Cults worked. Next time, READ THE CONTEXT.

[Rosso Carne]

i did

im effing tired of this.

look people, this is a mini game. that means the cult will rapidly be able to take it over.

work with me here now. 1 recruiter at the start, 2 scum (reasonable i think) and 9 townies. lynch, NK, recruit. lets assume the lynch is anyone but the recruiter. then its 2 cult and 8 others, 1 or 2 may be scum. as long as both scum are killed by day 4, the cult basically wins. cults are dangerous and almost broken in a mini setup.

and yes yes, how do i know theres a cult?

well if youd like me to claim, i will. it should be pretty obvious.

but please read any game with one. even in huge games, the cult needs to be the first priority or else it will severely decimate the town. [read goats for example]

so unless this is similar to worst role evar, im fucking scared.

no viq, i dont have a NK, dont know where you got that idea from, but i do not.

anything else before i go?

[ryan]

Rosso: Why give out all this information? You had 2 votes on you and 1 FoS.

[SensFan]

I have no experience with Cults, and so am not getting Rosso's pseudo-claim...

[armlx]

Rosso, I still fail to see how you are saying a mass claim will help deal wiht a cult if I got your role right.

[vIQleS]

no viq, i dont have a NK, dont know where you got that idea from, but i do not.

Umm, how about this:

Vote: Rosso Carne

I tried reading your breadcrumbs, and the only hint that I see is that you might be able to nightkill. With that said, it till doesn't explain what kind of danger our town is in.

so you figure the crumbs and still think theres no danger...

think about yourself.

PS - Are we saying there's a cult now? Killer scarecrows?

I can't figure out where that came from, but i'll reread later.

And even if there is, I'm not sure a massclaim will help us. What if the cult members keep their abilities? (I've seen that before...) A massclaim just means the cult knows who to recruit and not.

I have to say, i'm a little sceptical of a cult in a mini game...

I vote no more claiming until people are close to a lynch. (Although I'm sure we'll be hearing some from GS...)

[Rosso Carne]

well obviously, a claim wont help now, now that i gave that.

the point is, i needed someone to catch on to it sometime, and no one was, everyone was clueless. the cult needs to be the first priority before it absolutely takes over.

[SensFan]

Well, I still haven't clued on to any claim you made.

[Unity]

well, the more I think about it I don't think pushing for a mass claim is scummy, I think it's just downright useless. I mean wouldn't everyone just claim vanilla?

[thinktank]

Mass claims aren't going to help because what happens when everyone claims townie? That being said there's no reason not to believe Rosso Carne's claim because as someone said he was only on two votes when he made the claim which makes me think he is either trying to pull a fast one or more likely that he actually has something really important to do. No one claims this early in day one, not with something as especially ridiculous as his claim. I suggest we just play the game with the cult in mind and just look for suspicious looking players keeping in mind the possibility of the recruiter as well as mafia.

[pete d]

Vote Count

Rosso Carne (2): armlx, Lloyd
ryan (2): SensFan, aioqwe
Greasy Spot (1): Joubert
SensFan (1): ryan

Not Voting (6): Gnome, Rosso Carne, Greasy Spot, vIQles, Unity, thinktank

With 12 Alive, it will take 7 to lynch

[Lloyd]

Rosso, I still fail to see how you are saying a mass claim will help deal wiht a cult if I got your role right.

Rosso Carne, I agree with armlx. Could you give us another breadcrumb?
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Greasy Spot,

If you are currently culted and want to potentially be de-cultified instead of being vigged...

If you have a choice in communicating with us (other than saying Howdy all!!", "Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a Winner! ", and "My Mama made me"), could you post x # of consecutive claims quickly indicating who the cult leader may be?

1. aioqwe
2. Greasy Spot
3. Rosso Carne
4. Unity
5. ryan
6. armlx
7. thinktank
8. vIQleS
9. SensFan
10. Joubert
11. Mr_Gnome_It_All
12. Lloyd
13. pete_d
14. There is no cult

Hypothetical Example: If Greasy Spot is the cult leader, you could claim consecutively twice very quickly.

So far, it doesn't seem like your claims are time bounded (you've claimed multiple times in a single day), so I'm suggesting the above method as a way for you to communicate with our town.