Bookitty wrote:
My point is that Quagmire likely did not know his role, but the scum would have known it. The defense Hasdgfas is making there seems to indicate that he was more than a little certain Quagmire was town. I didn't see anything in Quagmire's behaviour that seemed pro-town, so the premise that Quagmire was behaving as town was not supported.
Hmm. Hasd seems absolutely certain that Quag is truthful about not having read his PM. Sure, if it was me in hasd's situation, I would think that it typical of Quagmare to do so, but hasd seems to lack any skepticism - he's assuming that Quag hasn't read his PM and that Quag is playing in the town's best interest. I don't think he is actually assuming Quag is town, but his level of trust is peculiarly strong.
Bookitty wrote:
I argued, and I still believe, that if you have not read your role PM, you are NOT acting as town. You are acting neutrally, on behalf of yourself alone. Why would you scumhunt if you thought there was a chance you would catch someone who would turn out to be your buddy? And in fact, I didn't see any evidence that Quagmire was actually scumhunting before he decided to announce he hadn't read his role PM. (I didn't regard his joining MoS in a policy lynch as scumhunting.)
This is actually a really excellent point.
Psychologically, I imagine that knowing you are town will be a much greater incentive to scum-hunt than not knowing your role at all.
I mean, the Quag line of thinking is that since he doesn't know he is scum, he is therefore town. But, of course, the whole thing just depends on whether or not he wants to the help the town - in other words, playing for yourself only.