Mafia 22: Singled Out - Game over!

[Fuldu]

I've looked back over the thread, and I can't find anyone who has claimed other than Banana Bob and Otaku376. Is that right? We know we have a Reporter still out there, a Doctor, and probably a roleblocker of some sort. With a Gangster Hitman, it seems reasonable to think that there would be three other Gangsters (or two left).

So, that puts us at:
Peeping Tom
Cop
Reporter
Doctor
roleblocker
Gangster
Gangster (Godfather?)
???
???
???
???

Anyone have thoughts on other roles that we can deduce are probably out there?

[Otaku376]

Cubsfan4life was a "Searching Townie" I assume there's someone who was his intended target. I also assume that there are some standard townies, perhaps with abilities due to the inventor. There is also reason to believe that someone (quite possibly a gangster) that had that red bull quick lynch ability.
As far as my results, I got another innocent. I am not sure if it's the best idea to reveal now or to wait.

[Fuldu]

No, I just wanted to make sure you hadn't gotten a guilty before we went too far into discussion. No need to reveal an innocent at this time.

[Jolle]

I talked to Yomipithe and asked him if he wanted to play. of if it was fine if I took over. He said I could take over again if I wanted, so I'm back .

Anyone have thoughts on other roles that we can deduce are probably out there?

Maybe a Mason group, altough in that case they've had a lot of luck since they're all still alive. A bulletproof vest is another possible open role. I recall Yoko saying sometime that this game had a few new roles. While some new roles are revealed already, but there could be one of them still alive. Or there could be more of the standard type roles, like more Cops (probably insane/naive/paranoid).

[Fuldu]

I didn't mean speculation, Jolle. I meant roles we can be reasonably sure actually do exist. I can create an argument as to why each of the roles I mentioned is likely to exist in this game, and although it's certainly possible that Cubsfan4life was looking for, say, the Psychic, I think Otaku makes a good point that there's probably a potential (though not any more) mason townie out there.

[Mr_Gnome_It_All]

There is also reason to believe that someone (quite possibly a gangster) that had that red bull quick lynch ability.

I might actually have an idea who was responsible for that, if anyone is interested

[Mr_Gnome_It_All]

Oh and that's emphasis on the word

might

[Otaku376]

well at this point, you've tipped the mafia (who invariably have more information about this than the town) so you might as well spill it.

[Banana Bob]

I got an innocent for my result as well, so I wont reveal it.

As for who is suspicious right now, I really have no idea atm.

Mr Gnome, if it's possible would you mind telling us how you worked it out without revealing who (I know that's pretty silly, but I just want to know his way of thinking so I can see if I agree or not).
If you can't then don't bother.

[massive]

OK. There's 11 of us left. If Otaku and BB have multiple innocents, it should be WAY more than enough to carry us through the next few days, as well as giving us a condensed list to lynch from. I actually believe coming out with the innocents is an OK plan at this time, and if we decide to go with it, I believe Banana Bob should list his innocent results first.

We can then start paring through the unclaimed and unconfirmed.

[Thoth]

I agree on that with massive. When we have enough innocents it's better to reveal them. Especially as there is a large chance of redundant investigations otherwise.

[SinisterOverlord]

Hmmmmm. Probably a good idea, as we're down to not many people and after 5 nights worth of investigations we're bound to be able to eliminate quite a few. I definitely want to hear what most people think on that before we do something as radical as that.

And... I'm interested, MGIA!

[Herbert West]

(Apologies if this post looks weird, I'm having to post from a text browser and it looks really odd).

I haven't really got much to add. Except that (and this probably goes without saying) that if we're about to have a list of innocents, I'd rather they didn't have roles attached. Normally I'd be against anything like that, but at this stage, I don't think we've got a lot to lose. However, if we're going to have this list, I'd like to see Otaku's before Bananabob's.

[massive]

Herbert West: Any reason you'd like to have Otaku's first? I'd be interested to hear why.

[Mr_Gnome_It_All]

OK, I'm Monica the Caterer, each night I can check to see what kind of food a person likes to eat, and that'a supposed to give me a clue as to what that person does.

Last night I investigated someone and it came back that he likes mixed drinks. And I thought that maybe he was responsible for the Red Bulls.

All four of my other investigations are dead already:

Internet Stranger - Spaghetti and Pie
JDTAY - TBone Steaks and Mashed Potatoes
Indentured Djinn - Popcorn
Fishbulb - Steak
Also on night four I recieved many complaints that I'd been sending out the wrong food and would step up my efforts.
Night 5 target - Mixed Drinks

Now before I actually reveal who it was and possibly out another innocent I'd like to hear everyone's opinion as to whether or not they think it would really be an anti-town role. Because, I'd like to keep as many unclaimed innocents from revealing as possible.

[Fuldu]

I'm inclined to believe that the Red Bull and the mixed drinks are unrelated, if only because Red Bull is a non-alcoholic drink. I would say that mixed drinks=scum, except that we already have spaghetti=scum (which makes sense) and popcorn=scum (which doesn't).

[Mr_Gnome_It_All]

the popcorn=scum part is probably related to the message I got night four about having been sending out the wrong food.

[Jolle]

I'm inclined to believe that the Red Bull and the mixed drinks are unrelated, if only because Red Bull is a non-alcoholic drink.

While Red-Bull may not be alcoholic itself, it

is

used to mix with alcoholic drinks.

[Morpheus]

We have enough innocents. You should definatly come out with them. It will shi=rink our suspect list.

[Banana Bob]

I got massive innocent.

I'm thinking, maybe M_G_I_A's result is that whoever eats junk food of some sort is guilty. Eg IS ate spagetti which is good, but pie which is crap, ID ate popcorn which is crap, so I think the person having the mixed drinks is guilty since mixed drinks is crap to an extent.

[Thoth]

It's certainly a possibility. We have 2 steak results who were both innocent and 2 non-steak results, both of which were scum.

[Herbert West]

Herbert West: Any reason you'd like to have Otaku's first? I'd be interested to hear why.

Because I'm still not

entirely

convinced by Otaku's role claim, and I'd like to see how his list ties up with Bananabob's. Obviously any discrepancies would indicate that one of them is lying.

[Banana Bob]

Well herbet, a person that claims cop but gives the wrong result isn't necessarily scum, and is not likely scum. The most obvious reason for that is sanity but theres also another reason which I will not say yet because it might give scum ideas...

[Herbert West]

True, and I'm aware that there are a couple of other possibilities too, but it all just seemed a little

too

convenient (although not outside the realms of possibility)

OK, so I oversimplified it a little to suggest that an immediate discrepancy would equal lying, would equal scum, but it seems the most likely explanation to me. I suspect that each of us has thought much the same thing (dependant on who we consider to be least likely to be scum) and has their own opinion on which order information should be released -

By this point (and given the number of townie deaths) I would have thought that an insane cop would have had at least one dead false positive - and would thus know that his sanity was in doubt.

[Herbert West]

That said (and sorrt once again for the double post) - if he is scum, then he knows who else is, and isn't likely to incriminate himself by something as stupid as to claim innocent for guilty characters, especially only five nights in, with several (presumably) innocent players remaining.

So scratch the idea of worrying about inconsistencies. Dammit.